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  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,056
    Would start him and Millar tomorrow and go for it. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    Dazzler21 said:
    I want Jaiyesimi in, but if creative players do anything wrong, they're straight out... So I don't want that... Which leaves me confused. 
    That's a manager problem, not a player one.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Dazzler21 said:
    meldrew66 said:
    Bowyer was talking about last weeks game. Don't know why Rich Cawley has put it up now.......deflection perhaps  ?

    A player who Swindon fans were raving about & who scored 4 in 18 can't get a start with us & didn't feature at all yesterday, when everyone knows we are weak upfront & looking for someone to ignite the spark.

    Draw your own conclusions. Mine is that he is a "project" (like Bonne) and really only brought him in to help Swindon out. 
    Sorry, don’t agree. I think Bowyer’s time is up. DJ was a demon at Swindon. A true fan favourite. He also ripped us apart, looking dangerous big time. Suddenly, he needs developing and, therefore, is a ‘project’? Sorry, no. We want whipped balls into the box for out target men and yet he can’t even make the squad. I’m losing patience with Bowyer now. As someone else said, he doesn’t seem able to get the best out of anyone any more. 

    Our squad should be ripping up this league and yet we are cannon fodder for the likes of Fleetwood who had 21 shots yesterday. Not good enough. Fed up with this waste of talent and missed opportunity this season. How much more will the ambitious Sandgaard tolerate?
    On what basis - other than our own delusion - should we be ripping up this league?

    Man for man we’re weaker than - as one poster framed it - our squad that ‘scraped through the playoffs’.

    I think we should be doing far better than we are - but the anti-Bowyer rhetoric does become eye rolling at times. 
    A squad that 'scrapped through playoffs' but are on the whole all playing at a higher level then where we are now.

    Considering the talent of that squad, maybe they shouldn't have 'scrapped through the playoffs' in the first place. 
     Josh Parker - the scorer of the grand total of... 0 goals?
    He'll bang in a hattrick* tomorrow... Just you watch. 

    Interesting how people forgot that Vetokele also came back into some form in that season. 5 Goals and 5 Assists in 25 games after so many injury issues, was for me not to be sniffed at. 

    *Hattrick may consist of a single set of or a mixture of goals, assists and oh so close moments, either way he'll be a thorn in our side, just like he was for those that played against us when he was in our side.
    The be hauled off for jumping out of a tackle from his own player, and then won’t be seen for 3 weeks.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    MarcusH26 said:
    Would start him and Millar tomorrow and go for it. 
    I think that could happen - but as the centre back pairing. 
  • If DJ doesn’t start tomorrow then we might as well give up. How much worse can we possibly get from last Saturday ? Bowyer could pick me at centre forward and we wouldn’t look any worse than that.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    Dazzler21 said:
    meldrew66 said:
    Bowyer was talking about last weeks game. Don't know why Rich Cawley has put it up now.......deflection perhaps  ?

    A player who Swindon fans were raving about & who scored 4 in 18 can't get a start with us & didn't feature at all yesterday, when everyone knows we are weak upfront & looking for someone to ignite the spark.

    Draw your own conclusions. Mine is that he is a "project" (like Bonne) and really only brought him in to help Swindon out. 
    Sorry, don’t agree. I think Bowyer’s time is up. DJ was a demon at Swindon. A true fan favourite. He also ripped us apart, looking dangerous big time. Suddenly, he needs developing and, therefore, is a ‘project’? Sorry, no. We want whipped balls into the box for out target men and yet he can’t even make the squad. I’m losing patience with Bowyer now. As someone else said, he doesn’t seem able to get the best out of anyone any more. 

    Our squad should be ripping up this league and yet we are cannon fodder for the likes of Fleetwood who had 21 shots yesterday. Not good enough. Fed up with this waste of talent and missed opportunity this season. How much more will the ambitious Sandgaard tolerate?
    On what basis - other than our own delusion - should we be ripping up this league?

    Man for man we’re weaker than - as one poster framed it - our squad that ‘scraped through the playoffs’.

    I think we should be doing far better than we are - but the anti-Bowyer rhetoric does become eye rolling at times. 
    A squad that 'scrapped through playoffs' but are on the whole all playing at a higher level then where we are now.

    Considering the talent of that squad, maybe they shouldn't have 'scrapped through the playoffs' in the first place. 
     Josh Parker - the scorer of the grand total of... 0 goals?
    He'll bang in a hattrick* tomorrow... Just you watch. 

    Interesting how people forgot that Vetokele also came back into some form in that season. 5 Goals and 5 Assists in 25 games after so many injury issues, was for me not to be sniffed at. 

    *Hattrick may consist of a single set of or a mixture of goals, assists and oh so close moments, either way he'll be a thorn in our side, just like he was for those that played against us when he was in our side.
    The be hauled off for jumping out of a tackle from his own player, and then won’t be seen for 3 weeks.
    Impressive so Burton are quite like us? I was referring to Parker btw 😉
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    MarcusH26 said:
    Would start him and Millar tomorrow and go for it. 
    I think that could happen - but as the centre back pairing. 
    Why do you think that? 
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,483
    edited February 2021
    Maccn05 said:
    Maccn05 said:
    Agreed play him wide and let him attack his full back.

    I'm close to giving this place swerve until Bows inevitably goes it's becoming very negative the same people on every thread pushing the same narrative down everyone's throats. I was trying to read the less performance related threads like this and now it taken over here too LOL
    Inevitably.....WTF you on about pal!

    I’m not sure why that deserved a WTF?

    I’m a big Bowyer fan and want him to stay but fan pressure, results, player effort, rumours and his own demeanour suggests he’s not going to make it the end of the season - which is what I want.

    that’s why I say inevitably because all of the above make it feel inevitable.
    Until such time as he and Gallen are given a decent budget they cannot be fairly judged.
    Let’s see what transpires......I believe Thomas is well aware that the cards have been badly stacked against Bowyer.....he richly deserves the opportunity to prove that’s the case and I firmly believe he will be.
    You clearly have no faith or loyalty for what he has achieved, our relegation was so unfair considering the outrageous number of injuries we had to deal with.
    Add to that, that arsehole Taylor pissing on the fireworks. Had he have seen out his contract, I am 100% certain we’d have stayed up......to say nothing regarding the takeover fiasco that he had to endure.
    We are then hit with a debilitating wage cap at the very moment when we have a new owner who is willing to inject money into what looked likely to have been a very reasonable transfer kitty.
    The cap has now been lifted and he and Gallen have the opportunity in the close season to bring in some better quality players......I firmly believe Thomas will give them both the funds and backing to do just that.
    I am certainly not in favour of him leaving or him having the idea from people such as yourself that it’s a widely held opinion of the vast majority of the Charlton fan base.......because, as with Curbishley, it damn well isn’t!
    Should promotion not be achieved next season then your opinion will naturally have more legs and will quite possibly be a reality.....but until such time as that happens, it’s my enduring wish that both he and Gallen stay....without doubt the man deserves a chance to prove what he can do with a decent transfer budget......which he has never had, or have you conveniently chosen not to notice?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    It looks to me Soundas that you've totally misunderstood Maccn05, he's supporting Bowyer.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957
    It looks to me Soundas that you've totally misunderstood Maccn05, he's supporting Bowyer.
    That's how I read Maccno5's post too.

    He made a point of supporting Bowyer .... but was saying he thought it inevitable that the negativity and fan pressure being drummed up would culminate in Bowyer leaving, one way or another. 



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  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,483
    edited February 2021
    Oggy Red said:
    It looks to me Soundas that you've totally misunderstood Maccn05, he's supporting Bowyer.
    That's how I read Maccno5's post too.

    He made a point of supporting Bowyer .... but was saying he thought it inevitable that the negativity and fan pressure being drummed up would culminate in Bowyer leaving, one way or another. 


    “He’s not going to make it until the end of the season- which is what I want.”
    What does that mean then?
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,862
    he wants him to make it to the end of the season 
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,483
    MrOneLung said:
    he wants him to make it to the end of the season 
    Mmmm......you could equally read it that he doesn’t want him to stay.....which is how I read it.🤔
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    Maccn05 also said, "Isn’t this a thread about DJ???
    Came to have a look and it’s more Bowyer bashing".
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    edited February 2021
    MarcusH26 said:
    Would start him and Millar tomorrow and go for it. 
    I think that could happen - but as the centre back pairing. 
    I’d like this, plus a 6 man midfield all made up of defensively minded central midfields that aren’t comfortable passing forwards 
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,549
    MrOneLung said:
    he wants him to make it to the end of the season 
    Mmmm......you could equally read it that he doesn’t want him to stay.....which is how I read it.🤔
    Digging a hole!
  • Maccn05
    Maccn05 Posts: 967
    Erm just to clarify @SoundAsa£ I’m 100% behind Bows and agree with the points you raised.

    As others said said my big worry is that if results and performances don’t improve Thomas may react to all the noise on socials and let Bows go.Which is the last thing I want.

    When you add all of these factors together you could see why he could. As much as I want it to I’m not sure I see an upturn coming and the noise will continue to grow... that’s why I suggest that it feels inevitable.

    here’s hoping for 6pts these week and the pressuring dissipating.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,483
    MrOneLung said:
    he wants him to make it to the end of the season 
    Mmmm......you could equally read it that he doesn’t want him to stay.....which is how I read it.🤔
    Digging a hole!
    I am too old and long in the tooth to be caught out doing that mate!
  • Bowyer could pick me at centre forward and we wouldn’t look any worse than that.
    I have no idea if you are any good SHG but if you are, Bowyer would find your best position and play you somewhere else.
    In Bowyer we trust
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Redrobo said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Would start him and Millar tomorrow and go for it. 
    I think that could happen - but as the centre back pairing. 
    Why do you think that? 
    It’s just a hunch. I’ve got this idea in my head that Bowyer might start doing something different to break it all up a bit. I honestly think playing players out of position could be an option. 

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  • Redrobo said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Would start him and Millar tomorrow and go for it. 
    I think that could happen - but as the centre back pairing. 
    Why do you think that? 
    It’s just a hunch. I’ve got this idea in my head that Bowyer might start doing something different to break it all up a bit. I honestly think playing players out of position could be an option. 
    He might start doing some tactics sessions?
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Redrobo said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Would start him and Millar tomorrow and go for it. 
    I think that could happen - but as the centre back pairing. 
    Why do you think that? 
    It’s just a hunch. I’ve got this idea in my head that Bowyer might start doing something different to break it all up a bit. I honestly think playing players out of position could be an option. 
    He might start doing some tactics sessions?
    I think one step at a time.  Let’s try and grind out a draw or even a narrow defeat tonight and think about tactics in a few weeks once the dust has settled. Rome wasn’t built in a day.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,047
    Does anyone have any insight into why Jaiyesimi isn’t getting starts? I thought he was an exciting, creative player and we had brought him in for just that reason. Given that he’s one of the few players that will be here beyond the summer wouldn’t it make sense to make him feel like a priority?
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,063
    se9addick said:
    Does anyone have any insight into why Jaiyesimi isn’t getting starts? I thought he was an exciting, creative player and we had brought him in for just that reason. Given that he’s one of the few players that will be here beyond the summer wouldn’t it make sense to make him feel like a priority?
    Probably answered your own question there!
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    se9addick said:
    Does anyone have any insight into why Jaiyesimi isn’t getting starts? I thought he was an exciting, creative player and we had brought him in for just that reason. Given that he’s one of the few players that will be here beyond the summer wouldn’t it make sense to make him feel like a priority?
    Because Bowyer doesnt like exciting, creative players. He got rid of Fosu who is now playing for a team that in the last 2 seasons have been a solid top 6 Championship side.

    I'm pretty certain Bowyer didn't go to Gallen on transfer deadline day & say "I like the look at that kid at Swindon that tore us apart last month - can you try to buy him". More likely Swindon were pimping him around as they were in dire financial straits & needed cash asap. No one outside the Premier League were doing cash deals on deadline day, esp not in League 1. I expect Gallen saw DJ as a "project" and like Bonne thought that we might be able to turn a decent profit in a year or 2. We just so happened to have some cash due to TS & Swindon knew it. 

    DJ is not a Bowyer player. 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,873
    se9addick said:
    Does anyone have any insight into why Jaiyesimi isn’t getting starts? I thought he was an exciting, creative player and we had brought him in for just that reason. Given that he’s one of the few players that will be here beyond the summer wouldn’t it make sense to make him feel like a priority?
    Because Bowyer doesnt like exciting, creative players. He got rid of Fosu who is now playing for a team that in the last 2 seasons have been a solid top 6 Championship side.

    I'm pretty certain Bowyer didn't go to Gallen on transfer deadline day & say "I like the look at that kid at Swindon that tore us apart last month - can you try to buy him". More likely Swindon were pimping him around as they were in dire financial straits & needed cash asap. No one outside the Premier League were doing cash deals on deadline day, esp not in League 1. I expect Gallen saw DJ as a "project" and like Bonne thought that we might be able to turn a decent profit in a year or 2. We just so happened to have some cash due to TS & Swindon knew it. 

    DJ is not a Bowyer player. 
    Horse shit, as usual. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,386
    se9addick said:
    Does anyone have any insight into why Jaiyesimi isn’t getting starts? I thought he was an exciting, creative player and we had brought him in for just that reason. Given that he’s one of the few players that will be here beyond the summer wouldn’t it make sense to make him feel like a priority?
    Because Bowyer doesnt like exciting, creative players. He got rid of Fosu who is now playing for a team that in the last 2 seasons have been a solid top 6 Championship side.

    I'm pretty certain Bowyer didn't go to Gallen on transfer deadline day & say "I like the look at that kid at Swindon that tore us apart last month - can you try to buy him". More likely Swindon were pimping him around as they were in dire financial straits & needed cash asap. No one outside the Premier League were doing cash deals on deadline day, esp not in League 1. I expect Gallen saw DJ as a "project" and like Bonne thought that we might be able to turn a decent profit in a year or 2. We just so happened to have some cash due to TS & Swindon knew it. 

    DJ is not a Bowyer player. 
    How do you explain Millar keeping his place in the team for most games?
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,075
    We seem to have sucked the life out of him. He's offered nothing in the limited time he's played. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,355
    edited March 2021
    Dunno why anyone bothers criticising a 15-minute sub in a game where everyone was rubbish
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