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  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,284
    JaShea99 said:
    Saw the equalising pen on 90+8 and assumed it was Taylor and he’d taken 8 minutes to walk up to the ball. Was happy when I saw it was Grabs.
    Forest strikers tally is pretty pathetic this season. Grabban 4 goals in 24 games, Taylor 4 in 36, Murray 2 in 14. 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,436
    Lets see whose fault the last minute goal is, or whether he's in "nice mode".
  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    mendonca said:
    Lets see whose fault the last minute goal is, or whether he's in "nice mode".
    Nailed on to be the referee's fault
  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,040
    MattF said:

    Whether it's the ref's fault or not, it's better to slag him off than individual players
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,553
    stoneroses19 said:
    JaShea99 said:
    Saw the equalising pen on 90+8 and assumed it was Taylor and he’d taken 8 minutes to walk up to the ball. Was happy when I saw it was Grabs.
    Forest strikers tally is pretty pathetic this season. Grabban 4 goals in 24 games, Taylor 4 in 36, Murray 2 in 14. 

    Taylor will be allowed to leave in the summer .... most likey end up at Birmingham.... 

  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,939

    Birmingham City boss Lee Bowyer told BBC WM 95.6:

    "We should have won the game; we deserved to win the game. The effort the players put in, they've been robbed of three points.

    "Instead of me talking about how good we were, we're now talking about the penalty decision at the end, which was wrong.

    "We deserved to win the game. Unfortunately, through no fault of our own, we haven't."

    Can't make up my mind whether it's the English or Maths that's incorrect. 


  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,462
    stoneroses19 said:
    JaShea99 said:
    Saw the equalising pen on 90+8 and assumed it was Taylor and he’d taken 8 minutes to walk up to the ball. Was happy when I saw it was Grabs.
    Forest strikers tally is pretty pathetic this season. Grabban 4 goals in 24 games, Taylor 4 in 36, Murray 2 in 14. 
    And some posters wanted Taylor over Washington.

    Gimme a hard working selfless player any day over a greedy snake.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,436
    Standard Bowyer....linked to the referee thread, I made a point as to why some Refs might have had a grudge against us. Wouldn't you if somebody spoke of you or your team like he does, at work!?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,096
    Dazzler21 said:
    stoneroses19 said:
    JaShea99 said:
    Saw the equalising pen on 90+8 and assumed it was Taylor and he’d taken 8 minutes to walk up to the ball. Was happy when I saw it was Grabs.
    Forest strikers tally is pretty pathetic this season. Grabban 4 goals in 24 games, Taylor 4 in 36, Murray 2 in 14. 
    And some posters wanted Taylor over Washington.

    Gimme a hard working selfless player any day over a greedy snake.
    I'd have Taylor over Washington any day, he's a far better player, even if he's a worse person.

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  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,328
    Dazzler21 said:
    stoneroses19 said:
    JaShea99 said:
    Saw the equalising pen on 90+8 and assumed it was Taylor and he’d taken 8 minutes to walk up to the ball. Was happy when I saw it was Grabs.
    Forest strikers tally is pretty pathetic this season. Grabban 4 goals in 24 games, Taylor 4 in 36, Murray 2 in 14. 
    And some posters wanted Taylor over Washington.

    Gimme a hard working selfless player any day over a greedy snake.
    Taylor over Washington every single day of the week. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,040
    Strikers do have great spells and lean ones. The unknown is whether the great spells are the norm or the lean ones

    Ajose for example seemed to have just one great season, which was the "outlier"
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    Addick Addict said:
    thai malaysia addick said:
    Huh. Bowyer scratching around with 1-0 wins while we knock six past teams.
    Never a truer word said in jest and it will be interesting to compare the styles of play under Adkins with that of Bowyer and ultimately how they manifest themselves in the results

    Our first 5 results under Bowyer were:

    D 0-0
    W 2-0
    W 4-0
    W 3-1
    D 1-1

    Our results since Adkins took charge have been:

    D 2-2
    W 1-0
    W 2-1
    D 0-0
    W 6-0

    So they are nigh on identical. These were our next and final eight results that first season under Bowyer:

    L 1-0
    L 1-0
    W 2-0
    W 1-0
    W 1-0
    L 1-0
    L1-0
    L 1-0

    Those results summed up our strength when things were going well under Bowyer and weakness when they weren't - hard to beat when we were in front but couldn't get back in the game when we were losing. It's the reason we failed to win from going behind for so longs. Our unbeaten run earlier this season produced similar results:

    D 0-0
    W 1-0
    W 1-0
    W 2-0
    W 2-0
    W 2-0
    W 3-2

    And if we look at Bowyer since he joined Birmingham we see much the same:

    W 3-1
    L 3-0
    W 1-0
    D 0-0
    W 2-0
    W 1-0

    Even in our promotion season we were hardly prolific and feared for our ability to destroy teams - we only won three times from 49 games by more than two goals and only scored more than two in 90 minutes on half a dozen of those occasions.

    One swallow last night doesn't mean that we are going to win every game by a cricket score but I believe that we are less predictable under Adkins than we were under Bowyer and it is that which has meant that we are now capable of beating both the good and ordinary sides in this division. Equally , last night demonstrated that you do not have to rely on one or two goal scorers if midfielders are allowed to make the right runs to support the attack.

    Bowyer will continue to etch out results at Birmingham and keep them up. Whether he can take them forward from there will depend on three things - learning from his mistakes so far as the handling of players is concerned, being allowed to spend some money on decent signings to strengthen the squad and a second and alternative way of playing.
    You mass use of data in your post excited me so much that I...


  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,423
    edited April 2021
    Fanny Fanackapan said:
    Lyle starting for Forest tonight.

    Maybe argued his case that he has a point or two to make to Bow ?  
    But what point would he have to prove to Lee Bowyer? Thought Lee was strangely supportive of his decision.
  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,415
    Fanny Fanackapan said:
    Lyle starting for Forest tonight.

    Maybe argued his case that he has a point or two to make to Bow ?  
    Is he still playing? It’s a bit late in the season for him to want to play, isn’t it?
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,880
    killerandflash said:
    Strikers do have great spells and lean ones. The unknown is whether the great spells are the norm or the lean ones

    Ajose for example seemed to have just one great season, which was the "outlier"

    Fair point.

    I remember when a lot of pundits thought Harry Kane was just a striker on form in his 1st season.

    The question was, could he continue scoring goals.

    Soon as we signed Andy gray from Burnley...he was awful.

    Had a very good record at Burnley
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,328
    Did he manage to work in the line about how he saved Charlton and could of walked away a million times, in his post match excuses? 
  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 637
    J BLOCK said:
    Did he manage to work in the line about how he saved Charlton and could of walked away a million times, in his post match excuses? 
    'The keeper could have made the save at the end, like me when I saved Charlton Athletic, has to be said it would have crumbled without me' 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,892
    edited April 2021
    Did a Golfie away at Wayne Rooney’s Derby County today. Safety from relegation now confirmed.

    Derby are in big big trouble if Rotherham can find a win or two.

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  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,087
    Callumcafc said:
    Did a Golfie away at Wayne Rooney’s Derby County today. Safety from relegation now confirmed.

    Derby are in big big trouble if Rotherham can find a win or two.
    Unfortunately I don’t think Rotherham will do so 
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,524
    Annoyingly think the Wendies might stay up. They've got Forest at home, then Derby. Rotherham are picking up nothing and Derby are woeful. Win against Forest and I think they'll do it. 
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,496
    stonemuse said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Did a Golfie away at Wayne Rooney’s Derby County today. Safety from relegation now confirmed.

    Derby are in big big trouble if Rotherham can find a win or two.
    Unfortunately I don’t think Rotherham will do so 
    Rotherham don't have the cutting edge to get a result at the moment.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,018
    Talal said:
    Annoyingly think the Wendies might stay up. They've got Forest at home, then Derby. Rotherham are picking up nothing and Derby are woeful. Win against Forest and I think they'll do it. 
    Derby v Wednesday last game of the season could be tasty.

    Ridiculous if Wednesday stay up because the 9 point penalty became a 6 point one, would be 2 years in a row that the soft decision kept them up.
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,830
    Henry Irving said:
    Wow, a manager unhappy that the opposition were awarded an injury time penalty.

    Must be a first in world football.

    Bowyer has moved on, some people on here really, really need to do the same.
    Theres more chance of Elfsborg going to the bar than some of us moving on 
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,284
    North Lower Neil said:
    Talal said:
    Annoyingly think the Wendies might stay up. They've got Forest at home, then Derby. Rotherham are picking up nothing and Derby are woeful. Win against Forest and I think they'll do it. 
    Derby v Wednesday last game of the season could be tasty.

    Ridiculous if Wednesday stay up because the 9 point penalty became a 6 point one, would be 2 years in a row that the soft decision kept them up.
    Even worse it was originally a 12-point deduction, they should already be relegated. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,764
    edited April 2021
    Henry Irving said:
    Wow, a manager unhappy that the opposition were awarded an injury time penalty.

    Must be a first in world football.

    Bowyer has moved on, some people on here really, really need to do the same.
    Seems a weird thread to make that point on. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,327
    Croydon said:
    Henry Irving said:
    Wow, a manager unhappy that the opposition were awarded an injury time penalty.

    Must be a first in world football.

    Bowyer has moved on, some people on here really, really need to do the same.
    Seems a weird thread to make that point on. 
    Seems the perfect thread to make that point on
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    clb74 said:
    Henry Irving said:
    Wow, a manager unhappy that the opposition were awarded an injury time penalty.

    Must be a first in world football.

    Bowyer has moved on, some people on here really, really need to do the same.
    Theres more chance of Elfsborg watching a Charlton game than some of us moving on 

  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,018
    stoneroses19 said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    Talal said:
    Annoyingly think the Wendies might stay up. They've got Forest at home, then Derby. Rotherham are picking up nothing and Derby are woeful. Win against Forest and I think they'll do it. 
    Derby v Wednesday last game of the season could be tasty.

    Ridiculous if Wednesday stay up because the 9 point penalty became a 6 point one, would be 2 years in a row that the soft decision kept them up.
    Even worse it was originally a 12-point deduction, they should already be relegated. 
    Thought it was 9 for some reason.

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