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Lennie at the Museum

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  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,507
    Always thought Jimmy Hill joining the board was the start of good things. He seemed such a positive influence and did he have a big hand in forming The Junior Reds? 
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,629
    Simonsen said:
    Always thought Jimmy Hill joining the board was the start of good things. He seemed such a positive influence and did he have a big hand in forming The Junior Reds? 
    Yeah but he did fuck all when we left The Valley but (quite rightly) fought tooth and nail to keep his beloved Fulham at Craven Cottage a couple of years later.
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,297
    edited June 2021
    He gave us dozens of VHS video tapes of the matches that were recorded for his use as manager, rather than for commercial sale. Once we get them converted to DVD, we will have an enormous archive of games from the eighties.
    I would love to see some of these. Some great times and was pretty drunk for many of them.
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    edited June 2021

    Well thats Lennie's loft cleared, I imagine donations to the museum will drop off when the Council dumps reopen.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,281
    Hal1x said:

    Well thats Lennie's loft cleared, I imagine donations to the museum will drop off when the Council dumps reopen.
    You jest but you are almost certainly correct.

    But that is one of many great positives of having a physical museum.

    Stuff that might have just been dumped comes here.

    A lot still gets dumped eventually but some is treasure and is saved.
  • Actually Lennie said that he was clearing out his garage.
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    edited June 2021
    Actually Lennie said that he was clearing out his garage.
    Can you ask him to nip round, and help clear out mine if he's free?
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,507
    Simonsen said:
    Always thought Jimmy Hill joining the board was the start of good things. He seemed such a positive influence and did he have a big hand in forming The Junior Reds? 
    Yeah but he did fuck all when we left The Valley but (quite rightly) fought tooth and nail to keep his beloved Fulham at Craven Cottage a couple of years later.
    Was he ever Chairman at Charlton? 
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,828
    Lenny is a real Charlton Legend.

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  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,027
    Lennie was great on Charlton TV.
  • Addicks59
    Addicks59 Posts: 140
    Great man and wonderful sense of humour. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,962

    I've never seen so many E120 tapes! Clearly the ideal size for recording a match, the standard E180 would be wasted
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,183
    edited July 2021
    Before a game up in smoggie land @rockspectacle and myself were drinking in The Zetland.
    Minding our own business a Boro fan struck up conversation with us, very soon he brought up Sir Lennie and said that the Boro fans loved him after he got them promoted to the Premier.
    He was insistent on buying us a drink as well!
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,828

    I've never seen so many E120 tapes! Clearly the ideal size for recording a match, the standard E180 would be wasted
    And an E60 for the Doncaster match called off at half-time.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,629
    Before a game up in smoggie land @rockspectacle and myself were drinking in The Zetland.
    Minding our own business a Boro fan struck up conversation with us, very soon he brought up Sir Lennie and said that the Boro fans loved him after he got them promoted to the Premier.
    He was insistent on buying us a drink as well!
    I bet he didn’t have to insist that much.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,183

    He was never the most jolly of people was Sir Lennie.
  • cblock
    cblock Posts: 1,962
    Loved Lennie as our manager, named one of our cats Lennie as a result.
  • Ormiston_Addick
    Ormiston_Addick Posts: 8,813
    There was such turmoil going on at the time, especially when @Airman Brown got the Back to the Valley campaign going that Lennie probably didn’t get the recognition he deserved.

    We had no cash and no ground and yet he got us promoted back to the top flight for the first time in thirty odd years and kept us there for four years!

    More than that just look at the class players he signed or brought through….

    Bolder, Humphrey, Reid, Minto, Shirtliff, Miller, Lee, Peake, Walsh, Bennett, Mortimer, Melrose, Watson, Williams, Pitcher, Crooks - and he hardly spent more than £100,000 on any of them!

    To be honest, I feel that he also deserves more recognition from the club for what he did - he arguably kept us alive during that period - perhaps the Lennie Lawrence Stand may be in order for the West Stand or maybe the Lennie Lawrence Covered End?

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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,183
    There was such turmoil going on at the time, especially when @Airman Brown got the Back to the Valley campaign going that Lennie probably didn’t get the recognition he deserved.

    We had no cash and no ground and yet he got us promoted back to the top flight for the first time in thirty odd years and kept us there for four years!

    More than that just look at the class players he signed or brought through….

    Bolder, Humphrey, Reid, Minto, Shirtliff, Miller, Lee, Peake, Walsh, Bennett, Mortimer, Melrose, Watson, Williams, Pitcher, Crooks - and he hardly spent more than £100,000 on any of them!

    To be honest, I feel that he also deserves more recognition from the club for what he did - he arguably kept us alive during that period - perhaps the Lennie Lawrence Stand may be in order for the West Stand or maybe the Lennie Lawrence Covered End?
    Fantastic post.

    Sir Lennie laid the foundations for the riches that followed.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,281
    Fumbluff said:


    One of our Volunteers has all the kit and will be picking up the tapes on Tuesday 6th (next time we're open) to digitise them.

    Frees up space in the Museum and makes them accessible to more people.

    Not sure there's much of a market for 1980s Charlton games but we'll see if we can make them available.
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,507
    Fumbluff said:


    One of our Volunteers has all the kit and will be picking up the tapes on Tuesday 6th (next time we're open) to digitise them.

    Frees up space in the Museum and makes them accessible to more people.

    Not sure there's much of a market for 1980s Charlton games but we'll see if we can make them available.
    I would definitely be interested. Be hilarious if there was a copy of Brighton away in 1983.....
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,962
    There was such turmoil going on at the time, especially when @Airman Brown got the Back to the Valley campaign going that Lennie probably didn’t get the recognition he deserved.

    We had no cash and no ground and yet he got us promoted back to the top flight for the first time in thirty odd years and kept us there for four years!

    More than that just look at the class players he signed or brought through….

    Bolder, Humphrey, Reid, Minto, Shirtliff, Miller, Lee, Peake, Walsh, Bennett, Mortimer, Melrose, Watson, Williams, Pitcher, Crooks - and he hardly spent more than £100,000 on any of them!

    To be honest, I feel that he also deserves more recognition from the club for what he did - he arguably kept us alive during that period - perhaps the Lennie Lawrence Stand may be in order for the West Stand or maybe the Lennie Lawrence Covered End?
    I'm not sure he deserves a whole stand - we don't have many to play with! - but he certainly deserves something. Maybe the family section or the NW quadrant, or at least a lounge like Keith Peacock has
  • charltonnick
    charltonnick Posts: 3,063

    He was never the most jolly of people was Sir Lennie.
    To be fair to Lennie , this picture was taken after I'd offered him one of Mick Ev's dodgy watches  ;)
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,751
    edited July 2021
    Fumbluff said:


    One of our Volunteers has all the kit and will be picking up the tapes on Tuesday 6th (next time we're open) to digitise them.

    Frees up space in the Museum and makes them accessible to more people.

    Not sure there's much of a market for 1980s Charlton games but we'll see if we can make them available.
    Worthwhile resource but the camera work and picture quality will be somewhat basic, akin to the “last game” video we released years ago, even by the standards of iFollow etc.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,183

    He was never the most jolly of people was Sir Lennie.
    To be fair to Lennie , this picture was taken after I'd offered him one of Mick Ev's dodgy watches  ;)
    More probably an hour in your company :smile:
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,499
    There was such turmoil going on at the time, especially when @Airman Brown got the Back to the Valley campaign going that Lennie probably didn’t get the recognition he deserved.

    We had no cash and no ground and yet he got us promoted back to the top flight for the first time in thirty odd years and kept us there for four years!

    More than that just look at the class players he signed or brought through….

    Bolder, Humphrey, Reid, Minto, Shirtliff, Miller, Lee, Peake, Walsh, Bennett, Mortimer, Melrose, Watson, Williams, Pitcher, Crooks - and he hardly spent more than £100,000 on any of them!

    To be honest, I feel that he also deserves more recognition from the club for what he did - he arguably kept us alive during that period - perhaps the Lennie Lawrence Stand may be in order for the West Stand or maybe the Lennie Lawrence Covered End?
    How about adding Steve Thompson to that list?
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,717
    There was such turmoil going on at the time, especially when @Airman Brown got the Back to the Valley campaign going that Lennie probably didn’t get the recognition he deserved.

    We had no cash and no ground and yet he got us promoted back to the top flight for the first time in thirty odd years and kept us there for four years!

    More than that just look at the class players he signed or brought through….

    Bolder, Humphrey, Reid, Minto, Shirtliff, Miller, Lee, Peake, Walsh, Bennett, Mortimer, Melrose, Watson, Williams, Pitcher, Crooks - and he hardly spent more than £100,000 on any of them!

    To be honest, I feel that he also deserves more recognition from the club for what he did - he arguably kept us alive during that period - perhaps the Lennie Lawrence Stand may be in order for the West Stand or maybe the Lennie Lawrence Covered End?
    How about adding Steve Thompson to that list?
    And taking Pitcher of it.
    Otherwise great post. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,281
    An update from @Eddie_Marshall on those tapes


    I thought you might be interested in an update on the VHS tapes donated by Lennie.

    BK has now created a list of tapes (attached). There are a lot of other tapes which are only labelled by the name of the opposition, so he won’t know what’s on them until he plays them. Apparently the majority of tapes are copy protected, which is proving to be a challenge.

    BK thinks that the earlier tapes were when Alan Mullery and then Ken Craggs were manager and Lennie inherited them.

    So far we have:

    Season 1981-82
    05/09/1981 Blackburn Rovers 2-0
    19/09/1981 Grimsby 2-0
    03/10/1981 Derby 2-1
    17/10/1981 Sheffield Wednesday 3-0
    20/10/1981 Oldham 3-1
    31/10/1981 QPR 1-2
    07/11/1981 Leicester C. 1-4
    28/11/1981 Barnsley 2-1
    19/01/1982 Luton 0-0
    23/01/1982 Cambridge 0-0
    06/02/1982 Crystal Palace 2-1
    20/02/1982 Wrexham 1-0
    27/02/1982 Shrewsbury 1-0
    12/03/1982 Orient 5-2
    03/04/1982 Newcastle 0-1
    17/04/1982 Rotherham 1-2
    01/05/1982 Watford 1-1
    Season1982-83
    28/09/1982 Fulham 3-0
    16/10/1982 Burnley 2-1
    26/10/1982 Luton Milk Cup 2nd Rd 2-0
    30/10/1982 Blackburn x2 3-0
    13/11/1982 Middlesborough 2-3
    20/11/1982 Rotherham 1-5
    04/12/1982 Newcastle x2 2-0
    18/12/1982 Barnsley 3-2
    29/12/1982 QPR 1-3
    08/01/1983 Ipswich FAC x2 2-3
    15/01/1983 Leicester 2-1
    05/02/1983 Cambridge 2-1
    19/02/1983 Carlisle 0-0
    17/04/1983 Oldham 4-1
    29/04/1983 Shrewsbury 0-1
    02/05/1983 Wolves 3-3
    14/05/1983 Blackburn  4-1
    23/05/1983 Colin Powell Testimonial
    Season 1983-84
    27/08/1983 Cardiff x2 2-0
    06/09/1983 Carlisle x2 1-0
    10/09/1983 Sheffield Wed x2 1-1
    24/09/1983 Derby 1-0
    15/10/1983 Manchester City 1-0
    22/10/1983 Swansea 2-2
    05/11/1983 Blackburn 2-0
    19/11/1983 Barnsley 3-2
    03/12/1983 Middlesborough x2 2-0
    15/12/1983 Leeds 2-0
    21/01/1984 Cambridge 5-2
    28/01/1984 Watford FAC 0-2
    04/02/1984 Brighton 2-0
    10/03/1984 Grimsby 3-3