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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)
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Let's hope so.Cafc43v3r said:Just for back ground Gillingham were placed under an embargo a month after their accounts were due. However there is also the issue of the monitored loan which I don't think we took.
We wouldn't have been able to sign Stockley for a fee, if that was the case.
Although the accounts would be very messy a lot of it should/would/could have been unravelled in the due diligence work that was undertaken.
They are going to be very embarrassing for a number of people.1 -
Was about to say the same. The "front page" will automatically default when the date passed 30 June, but we're seeing a lot of accounts at the moment which have taken more than a couple of weeks to be loaded after submission after so many companies took advantage of the extension provided by the Government.Covered_End_Lad said:
In fairness companies house if often a bit behind, they probably submitted the accounts before they became overdue but the website hasn’t yet caught up.Athletico Charlton said:
Saw that on Airmans Twitter feed yesterday. It is not a great sign to have poor house keeping.Cafc43v3r said:Accounts are over due aren't they?
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01788466
Isn't that an automatic embargo now?
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A couple of comments.
I am not panicking. I was sad to see Amos leave but feel MacGillivray is an adequate replacement. The gap here is a number two if AMB gets his loan.
Right Back is sorted at least until the January window when both Chris and Adam would only have six months of their contract left. I suspect if one of them doesn't feature much then they might be moved on.We certainly need another left back and right sided centre half.
In midfield we need at least a play maker and two wingers. Now JFC is out we need at least one of these to be left footed.
Up front we need one possibly two depending on Schwartz.
I make that at least seven in all.1 -
It’s an automatic flag, it isn’t manually set.Airman Brown said:
Agreed re CH delays, but the point is that they have flagged them as late, which they would only do if they weren't received by the deadline of June 30th. They wouldn't flag them as late before the deadline, because that makes no sense. They could have gone in since and the status not yet been updated, but only since the flag was raised.Covered_End_Lad said:
In fairness companies house if often a bit behind, they probably submitted the accounts before they became overdue but the website hasn’t yet caught up.Athletico Charlton said:
Saw that on Airmans Twitter feed yesterday. It is not a great sign to have poor house keeping.Cafc43v3r said:Accounts are over due aren't they?
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01788466
Isn't that an automatic embargo now?0 -
Notice what Richard Cawley actually says: "Believe ...... "SELR_addicks said:"There's been a bit of talk about cafc being in for Josh Sims. Believe the former Southampton winger is training with Portsmouth."
What does that mean? That Rich has heard a rumour (like the rest of us) but it's not verified anywhere?
Perhaps he knows something but sworn to secrecy? Or he doesn't know anymore than the rest of us?
It's us who are making assumptions. Cawley is usually very careful with his wording.
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we'll just tuck that one away with "premier League in 5 years" and "blow through this league" shall we..............ShootersHillGuru said:Didn’t Thomas say that he wanted a player that would get us out of our seats and on our feet ? We certainly haven’t signed that player yet. Still plenty of time but it does look to me that the window and recruitment have been much more difficult than perhaps we thought.4 -
Thomas didn't say it, Nigel did.golfaddick said:
we'll just tuck that one away with "premier League in 5 years" and "blow through this league" shall we..............ShootersHillGuru said:Didn’t Thomas say that he wanted a player that would get us out of our seats and on our feet ? We certainly haven’t signed that player yet. Still plenty of time but it does look to me that the window and recruitment have been much more difficult than perhaps we thought.
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We've had a few players over the years who have got people out of their seats and on their feet...
"F8ck that bollocks, I'm off. See you next week"22 -
Far too early to rule any of those three happening...golfaddick said:
we'll just tuck that one away with "premier League in 5 years" and "blow through this league" shall we..............ShootersHillGuru said:Didn’t Thomas say that he wanted a player that would get us out of our seats and on our feet ? We certainly haven’t signed that player yet. Still plenty of time but it does look to me that the window and recruitment have been much more difficult than perhaps we thought.3 -
Come on mate don’t let the facts get in the way of planning for a negative outcome 😉.Scoham said:
Far too early to rule any of those three happening...golfaddick said:
we'll just tuck that one away with "premier League in 5 years" and "blow through this league" shall we..............ShootersHillGuru said:Didn’t Thomas say that he wanted a player that would get us out of our seats and on our feet ? We certainly haven’t signed that player yet. Still plenty of time but it does look to me that the window and recruitment have been much more difficult than perhaps we thought.4 -
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Noted, but the Holdings accounts were only signed off on June 30th and they were posted on July 12th, so they have been processed and they couldn't have been submitted before they were signed off.Covered_End_Lad said:
It’s an automatic flag, it isn’t manually set.Airman Brown said:
Agreed re CH delays, but the point is that they have flagged them as late, which they would only do if they weren't received by the deadline of June 30th. They wouldn't flag them as late before the deadline, because that makes no sense. They could have gone in since and the status not yet been updated, but only since the flag was raised.Covered_End_Lad said:
In fairness companies house if often a bit behind, they probably submitted the accounts before they became overdue but the website hasn’t yet caught up.Athletico Charlton said:
Saw that on Airmans Twitter feed yesterday. It is not a great sign to have poor house keeping.Cafc43v3r said:Accounts are over due aren't they?
https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01788466
Isn't that an automatic embargo now?0 -
Personally happy with the recruitment and those who have resigned so far and that includes Ben Watson. Obviously more needed but feel we are in a good place and still plenty of time to get others on board. Would love an exciting signing but have faith in TS and his management team. Cant believe the negativity of some on here just chill!
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Are you ruling out all our youngsters?Richard J said:A couple of comments.
I am not panicking. I was sad to see Amos leave but feel MacGillivray is an adequate replacement. The gap here is a number two if AMB gets his loan.
Right Back is sorted at least until the January window when both Chris and Adam would only have six months of their contract left. I suspect if one of them doesn't feature much then they might be moved on.We certainly need another left back and right sided centre half.
In midfield we need at least a play maker and two wingers. Now JFC is out we need at least one of these to be left footed.
Up front we need one possibly two depending on Schwartz.
I make that at least seven in all.
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I'm sure NA and SG are trying to get the right mix of personalities and ages too. Most important thing is the blend as a team. I'm still confident we will be in the top 6. We are not going to blow away the league with the big spenders this year. Accept that and the process will be easier to take.0
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Combination of recruitment thus far, recruitment to come, players already on the books and a small injection of our own quality youth - all ably led by NA and his coaching team could well yet blow away the competition next season. There is no evidence we will or won’t as yet, but anybody who has led businesses and strategic plans with a vision (I have and many on here would have) will understand that words like those used by TS and NA aren’t bandied about lightly. They are full of intent, I love it and hope it comes off for all of us. I truly believe if we don’t achieve what they have said it won’t be for the lack of trying.
I also never expected a sound business mind to try to buy his way out of League One. So so many examples to prove that this method fails more frequently than it succeeds. Bringing the right ingredients/formula together with the right style and player quality for the level we are playing at will win through. Our recruitment is a bit slower than we would have all liked to see, but can’t complain with any of the signings or renewals so far (bar one personally, but won’t call an individual out for no good reason/personal taste).
Really hoping we can get 2-3 over the line in the next week or two so that NA has a bit of time to blood them with his set up and style in mind.Much happier and assured days are with us fellow Addicks, think we should keep our spirits as positive and optimistic as possible.2 -
Honestly, as weird as it sounds... We probably actually should. IF someone from the youth team happens to have a breakthrough season and gets into the first team, then it's great news. But we absolutely should not be starting a season hoping that somewhere in the academy is a youth player 1) good enough and 2) mentally able to complete a senior squad.Redrobo said:
Are you ruling out all our youngsters?Richard J said:A couple of comments.
I am not panicking. I was sad to see Amos leave but feel MacGillivray is an adequate replacement. The gap here is a number two if AMB gets his loan.
Right Back is sorted at least until the January window when both Chris and Adam would only have six months of their contract left. I suspect if one of them doesn't feature much then they might be moved on.We certainly need another left back and right sided centre half.
In midfield we need at least a play maker and two wingers. Now JFC is out we need at least one of these to be left footed.
Up front we need one possibly two depending on Schwartz.
I make that at least seven in all.
Like I said, if such a player does come through then fantastic. But we really can't assume that will happen.9 -
Only as a win bonusaddick1956 said:
14 chips surely.up_the_valley said:
But equally he must've known then that players like that don't come cheap. Thomas is a football man. No player like that is going to come for a free pair of boots and a 12 chip lunch.ShootersHillGuru said:Didn’t Thomas say that he wanted a player that would get us out of our seats and on our feet ? We certainly haven’t signed that player yet. Still plenty of time but it does look to me that the window and recruitment have been much more difficult than perhaps we thought.1 -
I have a slightly different view on this. According to TS, we were also going to win the play-off final last season, if I recall correctly. I think we should accept that hyperbole is part of Thomas's personality and is less to be taken literally than a feature of his can-do, optimistic approach. Just as we can't know the outcome of the transfer window in July, he can't know that we are going to blow the rest of the division away during the season. We should take it all with a pinch of salt, while at least welcoming the ambition which has been sadly lacking for many years. There will be plenty of opportunity for people to critique outcomes, but it shouldn't be founded on his rhetoric in my opinion.Pavoren007 said:Combination of recruitment thus far, recruitment to come, players already on the books and a small injection of our own quality youth - all ably led by NA and his coaching team could well yet blow away the competition next season. There is no evidence we will or won’t as yet, but anybody who has led businesses and strategic plans with a vision (I have and many on here would have) will understand that words like those used by TS and NA aren’t bandied about lightly. They are full of intent, I love it and hope it comes off for all of us. I truly believe if we don’t achieve what they have said it won’t be for the lack of trying.
I also never expected a sound business mind to try to buy his way out of League One. So so many examples to prove that this method fails more frequently than it succeeds. Bringing the right ingredients/formula together with the right style and player quality for the level we are playing at will win through. Our recruitment is a bit slower than we would have all liked to see, but can’t complain with any of the signings or renewals so far (bar one personally, but won’t call an individual out for no good reason/personal taste).
Really hoping we can get 2-3 over the line in the next week or two so that NA has a bit of time to blood them with his set up and style in mind.Much happier and assured days are with us fellow Addicks, think we should keep our spirits as positive and optimistic as possible.
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12 chips!!!up_the_valley said:
But equally he must've known then that players like that don't come cheap. Thomas is a football man. No player like that is going to come for a free pair of boots and a 12 chip lunch.ShootersHillGuru said:Didn’t Thomas say that he wanted a player that would get us out of our seats and on our feet ? We certainly haven’t signed that player yet. Still plenty of time but it does look to me that the window and recruitment have been much more difficult than perhaps we thought.
My how times have changed, I can remember the good old days, when we used to get 14!!0 -
The problem is, as Gallen has mentioned before, is that the group that should be making the step up now either already have or have left.thenewbie said:
Honestly, as weird as it sounds... We probably actually should. IF someone from the youth team happens to have a breakthrough season and gets into the first team, then it's great news. But we absolutely should not be starting a season hoping that somewhere in the academy is a youth player 1) good enough and 2) mentally able to complete a senior squad.Redrobo said:
Are you ruling out all our youngsters?Richard J said:A couple of comments.
I am not panicking. I was sad to see Amos leave but feel MacGillivray is an adequate replacement. The gap here is a number two if AMB gets his loan.
Right Back is sorted at least until the January window when both Chris and Adam would only have six months of their contract left. I suspect if one of them doesn't feature much then they might be moved on.We certainly need another left back and right sided centre half.
In midfield we need at least a play maker and two wingers. Now JFC is out we need at least one of these to be left footed.
Up front we need one possibly two depending on Schwartz.
I make that at least seven in all.
Like I said, if such a player does come through then fantastic. But we really can't assume that will happen.
This should be the break through season for some of the 19-21 years.
Morgan is already an established member of the 1st team squad and Vennings, Dempsey and Davison have been on the fringe for a while. Mingi seems to have left, no idea if the contract is still on the table. It's a big ask for either of the 2 u23 strikers to fill Chuks boots in their first season.
Remember KAG was only 20 at the start of the 18/19 season. Despite it feeling like he had been here for ever.
We had an outstanding group of U18s last year, most have signed pro deals, but they are very young. Even at league 1 level it's asking a lot for a teenager to be a regular. Even some of our very best academy graduates weren't regulars as teenagers and some of them went on to play for England.1 -
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Not at all .Redrobo said:
Are you ruling out all our youngsters?Richard J said:A couple of comments.
I am not panicking. I was sad to see Amos leave but feel MacGillivray is an adequate replacement. The gap here is a number two if AMB gets his loan.
Right Back is sorted at least until the January window when both Chris and Adam would only have six months of their contract left. I suspect if one of them doesn't feature much then they might be moved on.We certainly need another left back and right sided centre half.
In midfield we need at least a play maker and two wingers. Now JFC is out we need at least one of these to be left footed.
Up front we need one possibly two depending on Schwartz.
I make that at least seven in all.
I see youngsters as a bonus if they develop but I also want to see squad depth . For example the new Deji impressed me against Celtic I wouldn't want us to rely on him apart from JPT matches .
In the case of AMB he needs a loan to develop2 -
It's odd that some people seem to be using Sandgaard's positive personality against him like a bludgeon. He was confident ahead of his first summer transfer window that we'd get in there, get the right players to go with the right manager and do well. The market however hasn't been there for him to do what he wants (so far) so we're being patient. The window might close with us less happy than we hoped to be but people seem to be taking this as a direct insult. 'The owner said we'd blow the league away. Why did he lie? Does he even have money?' This isn't Southall talking about his dozens of phones and showing off his crisp collection, this is a sensible businessman showing ambition but staying careful. That's a good mentality for our owner to have, I like it.
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Agree. If people haven’t clocked on with all the Metallica fanfare, the guitars and the videos, they should by now. Not that I have a problem with any of it. It’s just his personality.Airman Brown said:
I have a slightly different view on this. According to TS, we were also going to win the play-off final last season, if I recall correctly. I think we should accept that hyperbole is part of Thomas's personality and is less to be taken literally than a feature of his can-do, optimistic approach. Just as we can't know the outcome of the transfer window in July, he can't know that we are going to blow the rest of the division away during the season. We should take it all with a pinch of salt, while at least welcoming the ambition which has been sadly lacking for many years. There will be plenty of opportunity for people to critique outcomes, but it shouldn't be founded on his rhetoric in my opinion.Pavoren007 said:Combination of recruitment thus far, recruitment to come, players already on the books and a small injection of our own quality youth - all ably led by NA and his coaching team could well yet blow away the competition next season. There is no evidence we will or won’t as yet, but anybody who has led businesses and strategic plans with a vision (I have and many on here would have) will understand that words like those used by TS and NA aren’t bandied about lightly. They are full of intent, I love it and hope it comes off for all of us. I truly believe if we don’t achieve what they have said it won’t be for the lack of trying.
I also never expected a sound business mind to try to buy his way out of League One. So so many examples to prove that this method fails more frequently than it succeeds. Bringing the right ingredients/formula together with the right style and player quality for the level we are playing at will win through. Our recruitment is a bit slower than we would have all liked to see, but can’t complain with any of the signings or renewals so far (bar one personally, but won’t call an individual out for no good reason/personal taste).
Really hoping we can get 2-3 over the line in the next week or two so that NA has a bit of time to blood them with his set up and style in mind.Much happier and assured days are with us fellow Addicks, think we should keep our spirits as positive and optimistic as possible.I won’t be judging him either if we don’t blow the league out the water either. He’ll just have to chalk it up as a lesson learned
he’s less engaged on social media than he was with fans, I think that’s a good thing. Could do with having an actual CEO/Director on the ground over here. He’s trying to scale his medical equip company which in itself is prob hard enough. I don’t have any experience of running a business or a football club, but they are two very different beasts. Not sure experience of successfully managing one, translates to the other7 -
Treat 'em mean, keep 'em keen, gives them something to aim at, plenty of time to reach the heady heights of 14 ChipsMendonca In Asdas said:
12 chips!!!up_the_valley said:
But equally he must've known then that players like that don't come cheap. Thomas is a football man. No player like that is going to come for a free pair of boots and a 12 chip lunch.ShootersHillGuru said:Didn’t Thomas say that he wanted a player that would get us out of our seats and on our feet ? We certainly haven’t signed that player yet. Still plenty of time but it does look to me that the window and recruitment have been much more difficult than perhaps we thought.
My how times have changed, I can remember the good old days, when we used to get 14!!
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Yeah where's our Bruce Buck to do miserable interviews and generally come off as extremely unlikeable1
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Fuck me I've bitten my tongue for so long on this. Just wait. We still have lots of time before the season starts.
I know we alwayss seem to leave it too late but this pre-season is like no other we (as a nation) have encountered before. Players are not happy at taking pay cuts but they are inevitable so tranfers will take longer as agents will be beavering away for the best deals out there.. Clubs have a massive deficit in funding and need to be sensible - and many have taken a loan meaning they are now under an embargo. Some clubs are throwing money around like confetti - good luck to them - if it works. But if it doesn't, and they go tits up, the fans are the ones who suffer because they have no club to support. Remember this was incredibly close to OUR scenario in the not too distant past. I know people are bored of hearing this but it is an undisputable fact.
As for those taking issue with Thomas being bullish - give your head a wobble. He is always going to say "We will smash the league" as he wants success. He didn't get to where he is in life by accepting mediocrity. I wonder if some in here would have preferred if he came out and said "Ooh, there are some good teams in the division - I hope we can avoid relegation" Would that have appeased some of you?
There is plenty of time before the season starts, we have an awesome bunch of youngsters all chomping at the bit to get some action, we have a manager who helped us finish the season VERY strongly, we have kept the majority of those players with a few exceptions.
I was told the phe players we are talking to are decent so we just need to wait and see. You can see why the club won't release any names because fans will just beat them over the head with it - or the selling club will bump up the price.
In the immortal words of Russell Slade.....patience.
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I have always been told to under-promise & over-deliver, rather than the other way round.Garrymanilow said:It's odd that some people seem to be using Sandgaard's positive personality against him like a bludgeon. He was confident ahead of his first summer transfer window that we'd get in there, get the right players to go with the right manager and do well. The market however hasn't been there for him to do what he wants (so far) so we're being patient. The window might close with us less happy than we hoped to be but people seem to be taking this as a direct insult. 'The owner said we'd blow the league away. Why did he lie? Does he even have money?' This isn't Southall talking about his dozens of phones and showing off his crisp collection, this is a sensible businessman showing ambition but staying careful. That's a good mentality for our owner to have, I like it.8 -
I prefer Thomas method..golfaddick said:
I have always been told to under-promise & over-deliver, rather than the other way round.Garrymanilow said:It's odd that some people seem to be using Sandgaard's positive personality against him like a bludgeon. He was confident ahead of his first summer transfer window that we'd get in there, get the right players to go with the right manager and do well. The market however hasn't been there for him to do what he wants (so far) so we're being patient. The window might close with us less happy than we hoped to be but people seem to be taking this as a direct insult. 'The owner said we'd blow the league away. Why did he lie? Does he even have money?' This isn't Southall talking about his dozens of phones and showing off his crisp collection, this is a sensible businessman showing ambition but staying careful. That's a good mentality for our owner to have, I like it.
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Maybe TS is more of an over promise and deliver type of guy? Maybe that's how you get to be a multi-millionaire?
Either way - we won't know which until the end of the season.1 -
Ok I have appointed myself as the "Official" spokesperson for TS.golfaddick said:
I have always been told to under-promise & over-deliver, rather than the other way round.Garrymanilow said:It's odd that some people seem to be using Sandgaard's positive personality against him like a bludgeon. He was confident ahead of his first summer transfer window that we'd get in there, get the right players to go with the right manager and do well. The market however hasn't been there for him to do what he wants (so far) so we're being patient. The window might close with us less happy than we hoped to be but people seem to be taking this as a direct insult. 'The owner said we'd blow the league away. Why did he lie? Does he even have money?' This isn't Southall talking about his dozens of phones and showing off his crisp collection, this is a sensible businessman showing ambition but staying careful. That's a good mentality for our owner to have, I like it.
The following statement is the new mantra.
" We as a club are trying but we are not willing to compete in order to get promoted. Our new target is to try and avoid relegation"
Happy now Golfie ? lol3
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