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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,791
    Peterborough Chairman basically just hinted that we’ve had a bid rejected for Mo Eisa 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Swisdom said:
    mendonca said:
    I’m not in panic mode, but have the top 2 places already gone too Ipswich and Wigan, given their transfer dealings so far?
    Man City didn't even win the league the season after their huge spending. It took them time to build a synergy and not just bang the goals in and concede more. 

    The Top 2 places for spending have definitely gone to Ipswich and Wigan.
    Precisely.  Spending doesn't necessarily equal success
    It doesn't necessarily equal success if you're talking in PL terms. For example Man U could spend 100m but when you have City and Chelsea spending 150m it might not get United very far.

    But i'd say there's a strong chance that a side spending big sums on their squad in league one will have a good chance of promotion. Especially when a large proportion of the division is struggling financially post-covid.
    Spending is the single biggest predictor of success. It isn’t a guarantee and there are other factors, but no question it gives you the biggest chance.
    Last seasons top 4 in the premiership had the 4 biggest wage bills and the 4 most expensive squads. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,772
    edited July 2021
    sammy391 said:
    Peterborough Chairman basically just hinted that we’ve had a bid rejected for Mo Eisa 
    Best not bringing him into it :) He is trying to offload him.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,289
    sammy391 said:
    Peterborough Chairman basically just hinted that we’ve had a bid rejected for Mo Eisa 
    How so?
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,368
    CafcSCP said:
    I bet MS will be trawling through that with a tooth comb.
    Doubt it. Simon Jordan tore him a new on last year when he had to explain profit and loss, gross and net profit. Live!!😂
    Is there anyway of hearing that?
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,791




    Macanthony has liked both tweets
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    CafcSCP said:
    I bet MS will be trawling through that with a tooth comb.
    Doubt it. Simon Jordan tore him a new on last year when he had to explain profit and loss, gross and net profit. Live!!😂
    Is there anyway of hearing that?
    https://fb.watch/v/T1jswPTB/
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,735
    sammy391 said:
    Peterborough Chairman basically just hinted that we’ve had a bid rejected for Mo Eisa 
    How so?

  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,753
    This is why the “keeping your business private” mantra lauded on here is nonsense, by the way. It’s not just your business.
  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,587
    edited July 2021
    Edit : just seen above 👍

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,432
    ButtleJR said:
    sammy391 said:
    Peterborough Chairman basically just hinted that we’ve had a bid rejected for Mo Eisa 
    If you're getting that info from his Twitter Q&A, I have no clue how you came to that conclusion. He said he's turned down bids from 2 top 8 clubs and one isn't Sunderland... Not saying one's not us but come on. 
    Someone asked him to like their tweet if we were one of the clubs, he liked the tweet. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,658
    I’m not in panic mode, but have the top 2 places already gone too Ipswich and Wigan, given their transfer dealings so far?
    Absolutely not. Yes I’m sure they will be there or thereabouts but so will another seven teams. How each team does doesn’t just depend on the players in the team. The manager, squad backup, injuries, suspensions, harmony, luck will all play a part. Tall order to pick the  two top spots in this league. I don’t doubt they’ll both be at least playoff contenders but so will we.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,753
    Lincoln did quite well last season and I don't think that they spent much on transfers
    Lincoln, Wycombe, Shrewsbury all valid arguments in recent years but look at which clubs are around them in the table. It’s about probability.
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    Dazzler21 said:
    So anyone with club links got any inside tracks?

    I have  got cufflinks and a lot of Bob Dylan tracks.
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,791
    ButtleJR said:
    sammy391 said:
    Peterborough Chairman basically just hinted that we’ve had a bid rejected for Mo Eisa 
    If you're getting that info from his Twitter Q&A, I have no clue how you came to that conclusion. He said he's turned down bids from 2 top 8 clubs and one isn't Sunderland... Not saying one's not us but come on. 
    He’s liked two tweets. 
    One saying ‘Charlton?’
    the other ‘Like this tweet if it was Charlton’ 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,005
    Eisa and Fraser would both be in the ‘very decent League one’ catergory of signings. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,736
    Has MacAnthony checked yet to see if we're not under an embargo....?
  • To be fair darragh just liked a tweet from someone when they suggested if Charlton were on of the teams who bidded on Eisa. Think this one could have legs 
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,325
    Stuck £10 on Wigan to win the league outright at 18/1. 

    Everyone saying "Money doesn't guarantee success" you're correct, but it gives you a much much higher chance than a team that isn't investing at scale. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,400
    Eisa playing behind Stockley just based on watching his montages could work very well or even as a partnership up top, definitely a player I wouldn't turn my nose up at 

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  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,710
    Darragh does talk a lot of rubbish, still going on about Eisa being a guaranteed 20 goal a season striker if he plays 40 games so no doubt he's valuing him at that which is probably a couple £m.

    Not a chance in hell we're spending more than ~£500k on a single player imo
  • LTKapal
    LTKapal Posts: 1,312
    edited July 2021
    Eisa didnt really get a look in last season, Id much rather we spent the fee on a higher offer for fraiser
  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,587
    edited July 2021
    Eisa was really poor in the games I saw him play last season, but wasn't really given a fair chance to be fair. People I know who support them don't rate him at all.  Imo Washington is a far better option, happy to be proven wrong though. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,097
    I do think we need a striker in the door , I don't think getting ransomed by Peterborough for Eisa is the best way forward however. 
  • Someone ask Darragh if he is still mates with Southall
  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,587
    edited July 2021
    FFS look who he's gone and replied to... I'd assume the add ons were for promotion and 20 goals? 

    500k is my guess (plus add ons)

  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    ButtleJR said:
    Eisa was really poor in the games I saw him play last season, but wasn't really given a fair chance to be fair. People I know who support them don't rate him at all.  Imo Washington is a far better option, happy to be proven wrong though. 
    We need another striker though regardless. I'm not 100% convinced by Eisa, but then who is there who wouldn't carry the same risk? 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,018
    MarcusH26 said:
    I do think we need a striker in the door , I don't think getting ransomed by Peterborough for Eisa is the best way forward however. 
    I very much doubt that we will be. IF the rumours are true, we made an offer and it was (seemingly) knocked back. It's likely to be a bluffing game/staring contest now, who will blink first? If they really want him off the books or need the money for their own dealings it needn't be Charlton who cave.
  • ButtleJR
    ButtleJR Posts: 1,587
    ButtleJR said:
    Eisa was really poor in the games I saw him play last season, but wasn't really given a fair chance to be fair. People I know who support them don't rate him at all.  Imo Washington is a far better option, happy to be proven wrong though. 
    We need another striker though regardless. I'm not 100% convinced by Eisa, but then who is there who wouldn't carry the same risk? 
    Very true. Not many options. Just think he'd want to be guaranteed a starting position too after last season.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,448
    J BLOCK said:
    Stuck £10 on Wigan to win the league outright at 18/1. 

    Everyone saying "Money doesn't guarantee success" you're correct, but it gives you a much much higher chance than a team that isn't investing at scale. 
    Shouldn’t we judge how much we and other clubs have invested once the window has closed? A lot can happen between now and the end of August.

    I don’t expect us to be one of the top 2 spenders but I expect our wage bill will be in the top 6.
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