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  • Chaz Hill
    Chaz Hill Posts: 5,217
    Jon_CAFC_ said:
    for those who have booked via the NHS national booking system it has now been updated to allow second jabs to be moved to eight weeks. If you go to manage my booking the cancellation link shows the next availability at your chosen Center before you physically cancel and re book.
    It still doesn't seem to help if you are looking for alternative vaccination centres if there is nothing available where you were originally booked into. In those cases you still have to cancel and take a chance elsewhere unfortunately. 
  • Jon_CAFC_
    Jon_CAFC_ Posts: 563
    Chaz Hill said:
    Jon_CAFC_ said:
    for those who have booked via the NHS national booking system it has now been updated to allow second jabs to be moved to eight weeks. If you go to manage my booking the cancellation link shows the next availability at your chosen Center before you physically cancel and re book.
    It still doesn't seem to help if you are looking for alternative vaccination centres if there is nothing available where you were originally booked into. In those cases you still have to cancel and take a chance elsewhere unfortunately. 
    Ah no I didn’t realise that sorry, I guess it’s perhaps because some centres are offering one of three vaccines and it’s about ensuring you get like for like vaccine 
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
    edited July 2021
    45 million people, 87% of the population have had one jab, I wonder considering they’ve got huge numbers, and make up a 1/3 of the people on the planet, what the numbers of people jabbed in India and China are?
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    45 million people, 87% of the population have had one jab, I wonder considering they’ve got huge numbers, and make up a 1/3 of the people on the planet, what the numbers of people jabbed in India and China are?
    India is a different proposition but we know that the Chinese manufactured Sino-Vac is pretty much useless against the Delta variant. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    45 million people, 87% of the population have had one jab, I wonder considering they’ve got huge numbers, and make up a 1/3 of the people on the planet, what the numbers of people jabbed in India and China are?
    India is a different proposition but we know that the Chinese manufactured Sino-Vac is pretty much useless against the Delta variant. 
    It might be good to temper the language about the Sinovac and its efficacy against Delta, purely because we will have posters on here who have done the right thing by stepping forward and having the Sinovac jab and could be concerned with adjectives like 'useless'.  It's probably true to say it's less effective against Delta than either AZ or Pfizer; and the efficacy of the J&J jab is equally unclear.  

    But it's also true to say that, if a booster jab is required, the Chinese authorities would have the capacity to roll it out very quickly.  For example, in Guangdong alone, more than 60 million doses were administered in a month.  That should make anyone who has done the right thing and had the Sinovac jab a bit more confidence. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    edited July 2021
    Chizz said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    45 million people, 87% of the population have had one jab, I wonder considering they’ve got huge numbers, and make up a 1/3 of the people on the planet, what the numbers of people jabbed in India and China are?
    India is a different proposition but we know that the Chinese manufactured Sino-Vac is pretty much useless against the Delta variant. 
    It might be good to temper the language about the Sinovac and its efficacy against Delta, purely because we will have posters on here who have done the right thing by stepping forward and having the Sinovac jab and could be concerned with adjectives like 'useless'.  It's probably true to say it's less effective against Delta than either AZ or Pfizer; and the efficacy of the J&J jab is equally unclear.  

    But it's also true to say that, if a booster jab is required, the Chinese authorities would have the capacity to roll it out very quickly.  For example, in Guangdong alone, more than 60 million doses were administered in a month.  That should make anyone who has done the right thing and had the Sinovac jab a bit more confidence. 
    I can see that there might be sensitivities here but it doesn’t alter the fact that the Sino-Vac vaccine is ineffective against Delta.

    https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/COVID-vaccines/Hundreds-of-Sinovac-injected-Indonesian-doctors-contract-COVID
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    Jon_CAFC_ said:
    for those who have booked via the NHS national booking system it has now been updated to allow second jabs to be moved to eight weeks. If you go to manage my booking the cancellation link shows the next availability at your chosen Center before you physically cancel and re book.
    Annoyingly I booked down in Devon as the days offered fell when we were down there, so now it's offering me early ones down there and I've no idea whether there are earlier ones near me!!

    Worried about cancelling the one I have with no certainly still.
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    North Lower Neil said:
    Jon_CAFC_ said:
    for those who have booked via the NHS national booking system it has now been updated to allow second jabs to be moved to eight weeks. If you go to manage my booking the cancellation link shows the next availability at your chosen Center before you physically cancel and re book.
    Annoyingly I booked down in Devon as the days offered fell when we were down there, so now it's offering me early ones down there and I've no idea whether there are earlier ones near me!!

    Worried about cancelling the one I have with no certainly still.
    I am 95% certain that you could cancel, check different centres and dates and times and if no joy, find and rebook your cancelled slot as long as you don’t faff about. I cancelled and rebooked the same slot about 10 times as it wouldn’t give me anything earlier for ages but just kept rebooking my original slot and getting a new reference. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    I think a lot of GP practices are offering walk up vaccinations now. Worth checking.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,035
    Just had my second Pfizer jab at Kings, super efficient (again) and it feels good to have had both.

    Couple of mates have had their second Pfizer jabs over the last few days and have had felt shocking afterwards so hoping to avoid that!
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  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,625
    edited July 2021
    Just waiting outside for my daughter getting her second jab, she’s 21, got a text yesterday saying she could bring her date forward.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    suzisausage said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    Jon_CAFC_ said:
    for those who have booked via the NHS national booking system it has now been updated to allow second jabs to be moved to eight weeks. If you go to manage my booking the cancellation link shows the next availability at your chosen Center before you physically cancel and re book.
    Annoyingly I booked down in Devon as the days offered fell when we were down there, so now it's offering me early ones down there and I've no idea whether there are earlier ones near me!!

    Worried about cancelling the one I have with no certainly still.
    I am 95% certain that you could cancel, check different centres and dates and times and if no joy, find and rebook your cancelled slot as long as you don’t faff about. I cancelled and rebooked the same slot about 10 times as it wouldn’t give me anything earlier for ages but just kept rebooking my original slot and getting a new reference. 
    Thanks, may give it a go or call the number to help.

    Its not the end of the world if not to be honest, would only bring it forward a week or two, but if it's easy to do it's a week or two extra protection!
  • ladywell_addick
    ladywell_addick Posts: 179
    se9addick said:
    Just had my second Pfizer jab at Kings, super efficient (again) and it feels good to have had both.

    Couple of mates have had their second Pfizer jabs over the last few days and have had felt shocking afterwards so hoping to avoid that!
    had my second Pfizer on Saturday and had a bit of a sore arm afterwards, then felt tired all afternoon. I felt a bit weird that night, kept waking up but I think that was the anxiety of the next day creeping in. Quite hard to tell if the effects after that were related to the jab or the football...

  • bellz2002
    bellz2002 Posts: 1,361
    Just brought forward my 2nd jab by 2 weeks to this Saturday via the NHS text link. Very happy with that.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,220
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    I think a lot of GP practices are offering walk up vaccinations now. Worth checking.
    Heard from friends in Welling and Dartford that there GP practices are being quite forceful in getting people to come in for the second vaccine anywhere from 4 to 6 weeks after first vaccine. One friend has been getting either text or phone call every day for a week, they are only at 6 weeks since first. 
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454
    Free flu vaccines will be offered to children aged two to 16, as well as people aged 50 and over or in "at-risk" groups this winter, as the UK faces the double threat of Covid and influenza.

    When the programme begins in September, the flu vaccine will be available for free on the NHS to:

    • all children aged two and three on 31 August 2021
    • all children in primary school and all secondary school pupils aged 11 to 16
    • those aged six months to under 50 years in clinical risk groups
    • pregnant women
    • those aged 50 years and over
    • unpaid carers
    • close contacts of people with weak immune systems (immunocompromised individuals)
    • front-line health and adult social care staff

    People who are not in these groups will be able to pay for a flu vaccine at some supermarkets and High Street chemists, once available.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57867955

  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    It makes me despair that some people including guys who should be informed didn't take up the opportunity to have the Vaccines which are our Friend and saviour.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-57866661
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,446
    soapboxsam said:
    It makes me despair that some people including guys who should be informed didn't take up the opportunity to have the Vaccines which are our Friend and saviour.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-57866661
    Unbelievable the mentality.
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,426
    soapboxsam said:
    It makes me despair that some people including guys who should be informed didn't take up the opportunity to have the Vaccines which are our Friend and saviour.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-57866661
    Quite scary that people with both jabs are still getting sick to the point of oxygen 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Chizz said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    45 million people, 87% of the population have had one jab, I wonder considering they’ve got huge numbers, and make up a 1/3 of the people on the planet, what the numbers of people jabbed in India and China are?
    India is a different proposition but we know that the Chinese manufactured Sino-Vac is pretty much useless against the Delta variant. 
    It might be good to temper the language about the Sinovac and its efficacy against Delta, purely because we will have posters on here who have done the right thing by stepping forward and having the Sinovac jab and could be concerned with adjectives like 'useless'.  It's probably true to say it's less effective against Delta than either AZ or Pfizer; and the efficacy of the J&J jab is equally unclear.  

    But it's also true to say that, if a booster jab is required, the Chinese authorities would have the capacity to roll it out very quickly.  For example, in Guangdong alone, more than 60 million doses were administered in a month.  That should make anyone who has done the right thing and had the Sinovac jab a bit more confidence. 
    I can see that there might be sensitivities here but it doesn’t alter the fact that the Sino-Vac vaccine is ineffective against Delta.

    https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/COVID-vaccines/Hundreds-of-Sinovac-injected-Indonesian-doctors-contract-COVID
    At the risk of sounding like Trump, Shake n Vac may be more effective.
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  • Wilma
    Wilma Posts: 1,618
    Just had my second dose at Guys and now doing the 15 minute wait. I had Moderna, the VIP vaccine. Quite glad to be sitting in a cool air conditioned tent, might have a little nap! 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    suzisausage said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    Jon_CAFC_ said:
    for those who have booked via the NHS national booking system it has now been updated to allow second jabs to be moved to eight weeks. If you go to manage my booking the cancellation link shows the next availability at your chosen Center before you physically cancel and re book.
    Annoyingly I booked down in Devon as the days offered fell when we were down there, so now it's offering me early ones down there and I've no idea whether there are earlier ones near me!!

    Worried about cancelling the one I have with no certainly still.
    I am 95% certain that you could cancel, check different centres and dates and times and if no joy, find and rebook your cancelled slot as long as you don’t faff about. I cancelled and rebooked the same slot about 10 times as it wouldn’t give me anything earlier for ages but just kept rebooking my original slot and getting a new reference. 
    Decided to risk it in the end & was able to bring it forward to Tuesday. 
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454

    More than one third of Londoners have not had their first vaccine dose making it the area with the lowest uptake in England, latest figures show.

    The data from NHS England also shows 55% have not had a second dose. Across England, 88% of people have had a first dose and 68% the second.

    Figures also show the city has one of the lowest rates of Covid-19 cases, with 298 per 100,000.

    The data also shows:

    • 46% of Londoners aged 18-24 have had the first dose, compared with 57.4% across England.
    • The South West has the highest percentage of 18-24 year old's vaccinated, at 65%.
    • Across London boroughs, Bexley, Bromley, Richmond and Sutton have the highest percentage of residents who have had the first dose.
    • Kensington and Chelsea, Newham and Westminster have the lowest percentage of first doses administered.
    • More than 19,000 people have died from Covid in London, with 18 deaths in the past week.
    • It has one of the lowest death rates, with 175 per 100,000 people. The North West has the highest with 248.1 per 100,000.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57874402
    Number of people to have received Convid vaccination doses by area
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,220
    Newham have started ‘walk in week’ today, where any one above 18 can get a first or second vaccine without booking. Hopefully that gives a boost to jabs being taken in the area. 

    Just over 200k people have a first vaccine so far in the borough (under 70%), with 118k double jabbed. 
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454
    Pop-up vaccine clinics latest

    Woolwich New Road, Greenwich

    • Booking information: no booking required, this is a walk-in clinic offering first and second doses.
    • Further information: AstraZeneca, Moderna and Pfizer (check days and times above). For people aged 18 and above, you do not need proof of address, immigration status, ID or an NHS number. Second doses will only be offered if it is at least eight weeks since the first dose.

    Eltham, Greenwich

    • Location: Mangal Pharmacy COVID-19 Vaccination Centre, 136A Well Hall Road, Eltham, London SE9 6SN
    • Day and time:
      • Mon 19 July, Wed 21 July and Thur 22 July, 9am to 11am, Moderna Vaccine (+18s)
      • Mon 19 July to Thur 22 July, Sat 24 July and Sun 25 July 9am to 11am, AstraZeneca Vaccine (+40s)
    • Booking information: no booking required, this is a walk-in clinic offering first and second doses.
    • Further information: You do not need proof of address, immigration status, ID or a NHS number. Second doses will only be offered if it is at least eight weeks since the first dose.

    Charlton Athletic Football Club

    • Location: The Valley, Floyd Road SE7 8BL
    • Day and time: Saturday 24 July, 9am – 5pm
    • Booking information: Walk-ins are available all day but to guarantee a slot book now via Eventbrite.
    • Further information: This service is available for everyone aged over 18. The vaccine available will be Pfizer. This clinic will be providing first doses, and second doses for anyone who had their first dose at least 8 weeks ago.

      No proof of address, NHS number or immigration status required.

    Thamesmead

    • Location: First Care Pharmacy – Unit 6 Thames Reach Thamesmead SE28 0NY
    • Day and time:
      • Sunday 18 July 2021, 9am – 1pm and 2 – 4pm
      • Tuesday 20 July 2021, 9am – 1pm and 2pm-7pm
      • Wednesday 21 July 2021, 9am – 1pm and 2pm-7:15pm
      • Friday 23 July 2021, 9am – 1pm and 2pm-7:15pm
      • Saturday 24 July 2021, 9am – 1pm and 2-7:15pm
    • Booking information: no booking required, this is a walk-in clinic offering first and second doses.
    • Further information: Pfizer vaccine only. You do not need proof of address, immigration status, ID or an NHS number. Second doses will only be offered if it is at least eight weeks since the first dose.

    Bromley Civic Centre

    • Location: Stockwell Close, Bromley BR1 3UH
    • Day and time: Monday to Sunday, 8.30-5pm
    • Booking information:  Book on the National Booking System or walk-in. Find your NHS number here. We recommend to book in advance. A walk-in service will be available but booked appointments will have priority.

      Astra Zeneca vaccine – First and second dose. Over 40 = 16-20 July, 25-26 July, 1-2 August, 9 August

      Pfizer vaccine – First and second dose. Over 18 = 21-24 July, 27-31 July, 3-8 August, 10-15 August, 17-31 August, 1-26 September
    • Proof of age may be requested. You do not need proof of address or immigration status. Second doses will only be given if it is at least eight weeks since your first dose.

    Crays Hill Pharmacy

    • Location: 88 Cotmandene Crescent, St Pauls Cray, Orpington, BR5 2RG
    • Day and time: Monday to Saturday 7-9am / Sunday, 9am-1pm
    • Booking information:  Walk-in, no appointment needed
    • Further information: AstraZeneca vaccine. For people aged 40 and above. You do not need proof of address, immigration status, ID or an NHS number. Second doses will only be given if it is at least eight weeks since your first dose. 

    Eldred Drive Pharmacy

    • Location: 25 Eldred Drive, Orpington BR5 4PE
    • Day and time: Monday-Wednesday, 9am-1pm & 2pm-8pm / Sunday, 3pm-7pm (except 25 July)
    • Booking information:  Walk-in, no appointment needed
    • Further information: AstraZeneca vaccine. For people aged 40 and above. You do not need proof of address, immigration status, ID or an NHS number. Second doses will only be given if it is at least eight weeks since your first dose. 

    London Lane Clinic

    • Day and time:
      • Wednesday 21 July 5-6.30pm. Astra Zeneca– First and second dose. Over 40.
      • Friday 23 July 9-12pm. Pfizer – First dose only. Over 18.
      • Saturday 24 July 9-12pm. Pfizer – First dose only. Over 18
    • Walk-in, no appointment needed. Second doses will only be offered if it is at least eight weeks since the first dose. A booked appointment clinic (020 8175 8607) will be running at the same time.
      No proof of address, NHS number or immigration status required.

    Oaks Park Medical Centre

    • Day and time:
      • Thursday 22 July 4-5pm. Astra Zeneca– First and second dose. Over 40
    • Walk-in, no appointment needed. Second doses will only be offered if it is at least eight weeks since the first dose. A booked appointment clinic (020 8175 0473) will be running at the same time.
      No proof of address, NHS number or immigration status required.

    Orpington Health and Wellbeing Centre

    • Day and time:
      • Wednesday 21 July 5.30-8pm. Astra Zeneca – First and second dose. Over 40.
      • Thursday 22 July 1.30-8pm. Pfizer – First dose only. Over 18.
      • Saturday 24 July 8.30-1pm. Pfizer – First dose only. Over 18.
    • Walk-in, no appointment needed. Second doses will only be offered if it is at least eight weeks since the first dose. A booked appointment clinic (020 8175 0438) will be running at the same time. No proof of address, NHS number or immigration status required

    St Edwards Church Hall

    • Day and time:
      • Tuesday 20 July 5.30-8pm. Astra Zeneca – First and second dose. Over 40.
      • Wednesday 21 July 5.30-8pm. Pfizer – First dose only. Over 18
      • Thursday 22 July 1.30-5pm. Pfizer – First dose only. Over 18.
      • Saturday 24 July 8.30-5pm. Pfizer – First dose only. Over 18.
    • Walk-in, no appointment needed. Second doses will only be offered if it is at least eight weeks since the first dose. A booked appointment clinic (020 8175 0433) will be running at the same time. No proof of address, NHS number or immigration status required

    West Wickham & Shirley Baptist Church

    • Day and time:
      • Monday 19 July 8.30-1pm. Pfizer – First dose only. Over 18.
      • Tuesday 20 July 5.30-8pm. Astra Zeneca – First and second dose. Over 40.
      • Wednesday 21 July 5.30-8pm. Pfizer – First dose only. Over 18.
      • Thursday 22 July 5.30-8pm. Pfizer – First dose only. Over 18.
      • Saturday 24 July 8.30-1pm. Pfizer – First dose only. Over 18.
    • Walk-in, no appointment needed. Second doses will only be offered if it is at least eight weeks since the first dose. A booked appointment clinic (020 8175 8582) will be running at the same time. No proof of address, NHS number or immigration status required
    https://selondonccg.nhs.uk/what-we-do/covid-19/covid-19-vaccine/pop-up-clinics/
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    This whole "No proof of address, NHS number or immigration status required" thing.

    Doesn't seem very, I dunno, secure?
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    WSS said:
    This whole "No proof of address, NHS number or immigration status required" thing.

    Doesn't seem very, I dunno, secure?
    You think some people will be going in without ID and getting jabs, just to sell them on the black market? 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    clive said:

    More than one third of Londoners have not had their first vaccine dose making it the area with the lowest uptake in England, latest figures show.

    The data from NHS England also shows 55% have not had a second dose. Across England, 88% of people have had a first dose and 68% the second.

    Figures also show the city has one of the lowest rates of Covid-19 cases, with 298 per 100,000.

    The data also shows:

    • 46% of Londoners aged 18-24 have had the first dose, compared with 57.4% across England.
    • The South West has the highest percentage of 18-24 year old's vaccinated, at 65%.
    • Across London boroughs, Bexley, Bromley, Richmond and Sutton have the highest percentage of residents who have had the first dose.
    • Kensington and Chelsea, Newham and Westminster have the lowest percentage of first doses administered.
    • More than 19,000 people have died from Covid in London, with 18 deaths in the past week.
    • It has one of the lowest death rates, with 175 per 100,000 people. The North West has the highest with 248.1 per 100,000.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57874402
    Number of people to have received Convid vaccination doses by area
    Shocking numbers for London, sadly not surprised though.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    edited July 2021
    Chizz said:
    WSS said:
    This whole "No proof of address, NHS number or immigration status required" thing.

    Doesn't seem very, I dunno, secure?
    You think some people will be going in without ID and getting jabs, just to sell them on the black market? 
    If people were handing out bottles of water, I'd get it.

    There's just something that makes me uneasy about being able to walk up, get a jab and have no record of having it done anywhere. There must be some people out there who have a needle fetish as well who might want 20 of them. A kind of jab crawl.

    Probably unfounded concerns, just seems strange to me.
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,622
    robroy said:
    soapboxsam said:
    It makes me despair that some people including guys who should be informed didn't take up the opportunity to have the Vaccines which are our Friend and saviour.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-57866661
    Quite scary that people with both jabs are still getting sick to the point of oxygen 
    They are - I suspect - people with underlying health conditions - the vast majority on 2 jabs, who catch it, will feel a bit ill (like Adkins), but not end up in hospital

    Perhaps @PopIcon can update us on how he is feeling now, because I think he is a 2 jabber, but caught it and wasn’t feeling brilliant, but also not stupidly ill

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