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I’d imagine the AW has been a lifesaver for quite a few flat jockeys then?bobmunro said:
She's wins a fair bit of prize money!ValleyGary said:So a hard working jockey like Hollie Doyle that rides around 3 times a day all year round, earns about £100 per race plus any winnings?
The top jockeys are on stable/owner retainers as well as winnings and earn fortunes. The average journeyman/woman jockey earns a living, no more.1 -
Irish Oaks, €232,000 to the winner 8 runners 5 from Coolmore who get the first 4 past the post.. farcical2
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More bad news stories regarding the racing industry this morning. I wonder if horse racing will still be around in 20 years time.0
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Elliott involved again, fat wrongen.1
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Absolutely sickening.
The IHRB in particular but also the BHA have to get their fucking act together and start policing the sport far, far better - in line with the wishes (demands in fact) of the majority of those who love and support the sport.
This is totally and utterly unacceptable.
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Does anyone know of an online resource to historic racing results?
Looking to go back to a meeting at Stratford in January 1970 and I presume it’s horses as a quick google says Stratford dogs had closed by then.
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Or if anyone can tell me how these got on.It was my better half’s grandads last bet (that we have come across whilst going through some keepsakes). He collapsed outside the bookies and died very soon after. We think it was New Year’s Day 1970.0 -
Try this, think you can get a free trial.paulbaconsarnie said:
Or if anyone can tell me how these got on.It was my better half’s grandads last bet (that we have come across whilst going through some keepsakes). He collapsed outside the bookies and died very soon after. We think it was New Year’s Day 1970.
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/
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If you do the exact search:
"spanish town" "red rally" "ease" "cherubini"
with all the quote marks etc on the site Gary posted it gives 9 newspaper entry results - including one for New Years Day 1970
You have to log in to see any further details.0 -
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I think this might be a struggle. Also, there is an indication at the bottom of the slip that there was a return of his stake i.e. the race meeting might have been abandoned and he had just got his money back although I would have thought that this slip would have been retained by the Bookmaker had this been the case.0
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Thanks all.
will take a look later.0 -
Or it could have been a lost slip that he completed a copy of to claim a void but never got round to claiming it - or it's a hand-written receipt from the bookmaker and he did get his money back (there's no till stamp).Addick Addict said:I think this might be a struggle. Also, there is an indication at the bottom of the slip that there was a return of his stake i.e. the race meeting might have been abandoned and he had just got his money back although I would have thought that this slip would have been retained by the Bookmaker had this been the case.
Either way, Charles Webb would have been taken over by one of the big boys many, many moons ago and the chances of a record still existing are remote in the extreme.1 -
Just want to trace the results out of curiosity as it would’ve been his last bet.bobmunro said:
Or it could have been a lost slip that he completed a copy of to claim a void but never got round to claiming it - or it's a hand-written receipt from the bookmaker and he did get his money back (there's no till stamp).Addick Addict said:I think this might be a struggle. Also, there is an indication at the bottom of the slip that there was a return of his stake i.e. the race meeting might have been abandoned and he had just got his money back although I would have thought that this slip would have been retained by the Bookmaker had this been the case.
Either way, Charles Webb would have been taken over by one of the big boys many, many moons ago and the chances of a record still existing are remote in the extreme.
the shop is now a Ladbrokes and my earliest recollection is that is was a E Coombes bookie.0 -
It was 31 December 1969 race card.paulbaconsarnie said:
Just want to trace the results out of curiosity as it would’ve been his last bet.bobmunro said:
Or it could have been a lost slip that he completed a copy of to claim a void but never got round to claiming it - or it's a hand-written receipt from the bookmaker and he did get his money back (there's no till stamp).Addick Addict said:I think this might be a struggle. Also, there is an indication at the bottom of the slip that there was a return of his stake i.e. the race meeting might have been abandoned and he had just got his money back although I would have thought that this slip would have been retained by the Bookmaker had this been the case.
Either way, Charles Webb would have been taken over by one of the big boys many, many moons ago and the chances of a record still existing are remote in the extreme.
the shop is now a Ladbrokes and my earliest recollection is that is was a E Coombes bookie.
Cherubina won the 2.30 at 8/11 and the last three races including the 4.30 were abandoned.
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15.50 at York tomorrow Captainhughjampton makes his debut.5
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Nice work.bobmunro said:
It was 31 December 1969 race card.paulbaconsarnie said:
Just want to trace the results out of curiosity as it would’ve been his last bet.bobmunro said:
Or it could have been a lost slip that he completed a copy of to claim a void but never got round to claiming it - or it's a hand-written receipt from the bookmaker and he did get his money back (there's no till stamp).Addick Addict said:I think this might be a struggle. Also, there is an indication at the bottom of the slip that there was a return of his stake i.e. the race meeting might have been abandoned and he had just got his money back although I would have thought that this slip would have been retained by the Bookmaker had this been the case.
Either way, Charles Webb would have been taken over by one of the big boys many, many moons ago and the chances of a record still existing are remote in the extreme.
the shop is now a Ladbrokes and my earliest recollection is that is was a E Coombes bookie.
Cherubina won the 2.30 at 8/11 and the last three races including the 4.30 were abandoned.
Return £1.73 or £1 14s 7d1 -
Thats worse than when Mary Hinge got through.iaitch said:15.50 at York tomorrow Captainhughjampton makes his debut.0 -
Not sure if that race is on ITV tomorrow but would love it to be in the frame.0
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Commentary. Captainhughjampton is pressing Mary Hinge, he's going to get up.Starinnaddick said:
Thats worse than when Mary Hinge got through.iaitch said:15.50 at York tomorrow Captainhughjampton makes his debut.1 -
Can’t see anything other than it winning by a length.1
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Is it a flat race?
Could be some problems if it's NH.0 -
Many thanks Bob.bobmunro said:
It was 31 December 1969 race card.paulbaconsarnie said:
Just want to trace the results out of curiosity as it would’ve been his last bet.bobmunro said:
Or it could have been a lost slip that he completed a copy of to claim a void but never got round to claiming it - or it's a hand-written receipt from the bookmaker and he did get his money back (there's no till stamp).Addick Addict said:I think this might be a struggle. Also, there is an indication at the bottom of the slip that there was a return of his stake i.e. the race meeting might have been abandoned and he had just got his money back although I would have thought that this slip would have been retained by the Bookmaker had this been the case.
Either way, Charles Webb would have been taken over by one of the big boys many, many moons ago and the chances of a record still existing are remote in the extreme.
the shop is now a Ladbrokes and my earliest recollection is that is was a E Coombes bookie.
Cherubina won the 2.30 at 8/11 and the last three races including the 4.30 were abandoned.
Return £1.73 or £1 14s 7d
the family were always under the impression he had just placed the bet but seems he may have been going in to collect when he collapsed.0 -
Not much then! Hope they do well!killer kish said:
I've got a few horses with Anthony Honeyball and his monthly charge is £1800.2121 said:Albury, how much does it cost to keep a horse training and racing? With exception of purchase price…
Also had some with Olly Murphy and his charges ranged from £2200-£2800 a month.0 -
Finishing with a late spurt.iaitch said:
Commentary. Captainhughjampton is pressing Mary Hinge, he's going to get up.Starinnaddick said:
Thats worse than when Mary Hinge got through.iaitch said:15.50 at York tomorrow Captainhughjampton makes his debut.2 -
Last time out, didn’t go the full distance due to unseating the rider.alan dugdale said:
Finishing with a late spurt.iaitch said:
Commentary. Captainhughjampton is pressing Mary Hinge, he's going to get up.Starinnaddick said:
Thats worse than when Mary Hinge got through.iaitch said:15.50 at York tomorrow Captainhughjampton makes his debut.2 -
Simon Munir and Isaac Souede remove their horses from Elliott after Panorama's revelation about the shameful end of Vyta Du Roc's life.
Regrettable they didn't follow Cheveley Park's example earlier in the year but better late than never.
Every other owner with Elliott should be seriously searching their conscience (yes I know that by definition excludes the O'Learys) and following suit. Taking the bastard down for good is the only example to set to begin to put the sport on the right path as regards protecting the welfare and dignity of the real heroes (regardless of their race record) of our sport and if the authorities don't have the balls or integrity to do it, the owners must.9 -
In my opinion, this is the true picture of the response of connections of horses that sadly suffer serious injury or illness - the horse's welfare is front and centre of everything they do.
From my experience as an owner of 5 NH horses trained under 5 different trainers, Gill Boanas is thankfully representative of the majority who are directly in charge of their care.
But there are some seriously bad apples in the minority and they need to be put out of our sport forthwith.
RIP Oliver's Betty
https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/heartbreaking-end-for-mare-whose-trainer-slept-in-her-stable-to-nurse-her/503613
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