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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    edited July 2021
    Nobody has said we are not looking to get another striker are they?, Adkins isn’t going to come out and say Davidson is shit we need someone else is he? He is going to try and give the lad confidence and hope it pays off I would have thought. I’d say let’s wait and see and not second guess to fit in with whether you want to be doom and gloom or happy clappy about it. Im firmly on the fence at the moment getting splinters in my arse!!!!😂
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,911
    It kind of makes me think of the early 90s years when we were a combination of youngsters, out of favour players from unfashionable clubs, combined with some nice loans.

    One of my favourite times supporting Charlton.

    That was in the championship. Not sure how I feel about that in league one.
    I'd be perfectly happy being a sensibly run Championship side, not under serious threat of relegation and with a chance of the playoffs. Which is what we were in the 90s until 97/98. And dare I say it, how Millwall are at the moment...

    That level of achievement isn't acceptable in L1 though. For a club our size, top 6 is the minimum you'd expect and a serious push for the automatics. Even under Roland, after one poor season, this was followed by 6th and 3rd place finishes.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,213
    We’ve all got opinions on football and rightfully so but if the manager himself says he’s impressed and wants Davison around the first team he must be doing something right, fully on side with this.
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,603
    Big big January window coming to get a couple in to stop us going down. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,585
    edited July 2021
    Redhenry said:
    hey, if they say he's good enough, then he probably is. They see the guy every day!
    Either that or its a message he's sending to other players / clubs.

    "Oh well if you wont accept our offer we'll just play our kids"

    Especially as there will be teams who'll be struggling financially this summer who are probably holding out for more for a bit of stability.

    There is a massive game of bluff going on this summer across all teams / leagues

    The media is a powerful tool so wouldnt be surprised to see Adkins using it to his advantage
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,911
    I've no problem with Davison being around, and yes he did play well on Saturday - against a 6th tier club - but I'd be very disappointed if he ended up our main central striker if Stockley got injured.

    Last season he got 3 goals in the NL and 3 goals in L2, not exactly evidence that he will score in L1
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,928
    Don't see the issue, it's great for his confidence and probably helps us avoid being bent over during negotiations with agents. 

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,911
    Redhenry said:
    hey, if they say he's good enough, then he probably is. They see the guy every day!
    Either that or its a message he's sending to other players / clubs.

    "Oh well if you wont accept our offer we'll just play our kids"

    Especially as there will be teams who'll be struggling financially this summer who are probably holding out for more for a bit of stability.
    But only if the other clubs actually believe you

    If City went to Spurs "If you don't accept our offer for Kane we'll stick with Jesus and give Liam Delap more games" nobody would believe them
  • Lazy_eye_metaphor
    Lazy_eye_metaphor Posts: 1,960
    edited July 2021
    I would be a lot happier if NA acknowledged that Davison was not good enough in his loans last season, but has somehow kicked on since then. Otherwise it looks like desperation brought on by lack of success in recruiting a new striker.

    There's a fine line between positive thinking and mindless optimism. I hope NA knows exactly where that line is.
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,670
    edited July 2021
    I think he probably is good enough to play a part this season and that's probably the intention. But maybe this article is also an attempt to move a deal along.
  • Vfrf
    Vfrf Posts: 797
    I would be a lot happier if NA acknowledged that Davison was not good enough in his loans last season, but has somehow kicked on since then. Otherwise it looks like desperation brought on by lack of success in recruiting a new striker.
    You honestly think they'd give up three weeks before the window closes and just throw the towel in? Not to mention the free market after that if he was so desperate :D
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,961
    Not sure I like the idea of Davison being a replacement for Aneke 
    I don't believe he is. Davison is cover for Stockley, should he get injured or suspended.


  • Vfrf said:
    I would be a lot happier if NA acknowledged that Davison was not good enough in his loans last season, but has somehow kicked on since then. Otherwise it looks like desperation brought on by lack of success in recruiting a new striker.
    You honestly think they'd give up three weeks before the window closes and just throw the towel in? Not to mention the free market after that if he was so desperate :D
    No I don't. But there may be a loss of confidence that a successful outcome can be achieved, given the limits of the club's current circumstances.
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,670
    What's happened to the winger that was very close to signing? 
  • Vfrf
    Vfrf Posts: 797
    Vfrf said:
    I would be a lot happier if NA acknowledged that Davison was not good enough in his loans last season, but has somehow kicked on since then. Otherwise it looks like desperation brought on by lack of success in recruiting a new striker.
    You honestly think they'd give up three weeks before the window closes and just throw the towel in? Not to mention the free market after that if he was so desperate :D
    No I don't. But there may be a loss of confidence that a successful outcome can be achieved, given the limits of the club's current circumstances.
    Is that not basically the same thing? If anything it's media manipulation to tell other clubs we don't need a striker but may still sign one if they're going to be fair on price.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,961
    Wonder when the next body will arrive as we are still light on proven squad numbers.
    There will be new signings still to come, both permanents and loans.


  • Vfrf said:
    Vfrf said:
    I would be a lot happier if NA acknowledged that Davison was not good enough in his loans last season, but has somehow kicked on since then. Otherwise it looks like desperation brought on by lack of success in recruiting a new striker.
    You honestly think they'd give up three weeks before the window closes and just throw the towel in? Not to mention the free market after that if he was so desperate :D
    No I don't. But there may be a loss of confidence that a successful outcome can be achieved, given the limits of the club's current circumstances.
    Is that not basically the same thing? If anything it's media manipulation to tell other clubs we don't need a striker but may still sign one if they're going to be fair on price.
    Two different possibilities:
    1. We give up. Davison is our man.
    2. We're gonna keep trying, but frankly it doesn't look hopeful as things stand, so we may have to make do with Davison.

    I'm suggesting that no.2 MIGHT be the case.

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  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,513
    The fans will always give a young player a chance more so then a expensive striker coming in … 

    but as I say the window don’t shut till Sept he has a chance to make a calm or we go and get someone in … 
  • reserves
    reserves Posts: 795
    edited July 2021
    Blimey, so much doom and gloom, I remember why I stopped looking at this thread. 

    Personally, I trust Steve Gallen and Nigel Atkins know what they are doing and are doing their best with the resources they have and have what’s best for the club in mind.  They will also know the squad in great detail, the fitness levels and formation they want to play.  Essentially, they are getting on with their jobs. 

    Why people assume they don’t know what they’re doing or they somehow ‘missed’ a signing that another team in League 1 is beyond me. I’m glad we have a club where they don’t constantly talk about other clubs players, or leak rumours, shows class. 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,928
    Vfrf said:
    Vfrf said:
    I would be a lot happier if NA acknowledged that Davison was not good enough in his loans last season, but has somehow kicked on since then. Otherwise it looks like desperation brought on by lack of success in recruiting a new striker.
    You honestly think they'd give up three weeks before the window closes and just throw the towel in? Not to mention the free market after that if he was so desperate :D
    No I don't. But there may be a loss of confidence that a successful outcome can be achieved, given the limits of the club's current circumstances.
    Is that not basically the same thing? If anything it's media manipulation to tell other clubs we don't need a striker but may still sign one if they're going to be fair on price.
    Exactly 
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,361
    edited July 2021
    Vfrf said:
    Vfrf said:
    I would be a lot happier if NA acknowledged that Davison was not good enough in his loans last season, but has somehow kicked on since then. Otherwise it looks like desperation brought on by lack of success in recruiting a new striker.
    You honestly think they'd give up three weeks before the window closes and just throw the towel in? Not to mention the free market after that if he was so desperate :D
    No I don't. But there may be a loss of confidence that a successful outcome can be achieved, given the limits of the club's current circumstances.
    Is that not basically the same thing? If anything it's media manipulation to tell other clubs we don't need a striker but may still sign one if they're going to be fair on price.
    Two different possibilities:
    1. We give up. Davison is our man.
    2. We're gonna keep trying, but frankly it doesn't look hopeful as things stand, so we may have to make do with Davison.

    I'm suggesting that no.2 MIGHT be the case.
    Haha, those days are gone, maybe last season...If he plays it will be purely on merit
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,545
    edited July 2021
    Mullin  League 2 top scorer - 4th choice - oNe SeaSoN WoNdER, LeAgUe 2 StAnDaRd, nOt PrOvEn tHoUgH.

    Davison League 2 3 goal scorer - 4th choice - Fair enough give the lad a chance, clearly seen something.



    * I have no problem with Davison being used by the way, and no way is he the Aneke replacement, Stockley back up. Fully expect a prem loanee fwd to come in, but, context.


    😬😬😬
  • Vfrf
    Vfrf Posts: 797
    Vfrf said:
    Vfrf said:
    I would be a lot happier if NA acknowledged that Davison was not good enough in his loans last season, but has somehow kicked on since then. Otherwise it looks like desperation brought on by lack of success in recruiting a new striker.
    You honestly think they'd give up three weeks before the window closes and just throw the towel in? Not to mention the free market after that if he was so desperate :D
    No I don't. But there may be a loss of confidence that a successful outcome can be achieved, given the limits of the club's current circumstances.
    Is that not basically the same thing? If anything it's media manipulation to tell other clubs we don't need a striker but may still sign one if they're going to be fair on price.
    Two different possibilities:
    1. We give up. Davison is our man.
    2. We're gonna keep trying, but frankly it doesn't look hopeful as things stand, so we may have to make do with Davison.

    I'm suggesting that no.2 MIGHT be the case.
    Ok mate lol
  • Redhenry said:
    Vfrf said:
    Vfrf said:
    I would be a lot happier if NA acknowledged that Davison was not good enough in his loans last season, but has somehow kicked on since then. Otherwise it looks like desperation brought on by lack of success in recruiting a new striker.
    You honestly think they'd give up three weeks before the window closes and just throw the towel in? Not to mention the free market after that if he was so desperate :D
    No I don't. But there may be a loss of confidence that a successful outcome can be achieved, given the limits of the club's current circumstances.
    Is that not basically the same thing? If anything it's media manipulation to tell other clubs we don't need a striker but may still sign one if they're going to be fair on price.
    Two different possibilities:
    1. We give up. Davison is our man.
    2. We're gonna keep trying, but frankly it doesn't look hopeful as things stand, so we may have to make do with Davison.

    I'm suggesting that no.2 MIGHT be the case.
    Haha, those days are gone, maybe last season...If he plays it will be purely on merit



    I'm not ITK, So I can only pray that is so.
  • Charlton43
    Charlton43 Posts: 109
    What’s happened to the 2 that were close 
  • What’s happened to the 2 that were close 
    No cigar 
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,420
    What’s happened to the 2 that were close 
    They’re locked inside the valley still in full kit. Gotta keep the secret safe until the 26th.
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