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it came straight from the horses mouth (SMT) via another fan. Probably about a month ago and I don’t know how much he asked for or what we offered, but he said it was multiple offers made.CharltontillidieCOYR said:
Do you know this for certain ? And how do you know what him and his agent are asking for isnt excessive ?!Maccn05 said:I know we’ve made more than one offer for Josh Sims and he’s rejected them as we low-balled him.I’m sure if the offers were good enough he’d already be with us.
Make what you want of that and TS transfer strategy…
I did lot say before as was told in confidence but since he’s now referred to it elsewhere I might as well share.1 -
When you hear of players earning 15k per week in league one that is ridiculous.
10k per week is still way too much.
But if you are serious about getting promotion then I believe 5k should be offered to the players you think are good enough to get you promotion.
That's easy for me to say as it's not my money but if your top offer is 3k as I've been told it is then you are going to miss out on your top targets.
If that means we miss out on promotion then it's a false economy in the long-term.18 -
He’s talking to a much wider audience than just Charlton supporters.charlton_hero said:
Adkins keeps referencing the budget so I think we can assume it's tight.Maccn05 said:I know we’ve made more than one offer for Josh Sims and he’s rejected them as we low-balled him.I’m sure if the offers were good enough he’d already be with us.
Make what you want of that and TS transfer strategy…2 -
Is there and announcement 📣 at 6pm today ?0
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Fair enough mate thanks for sharing wonder if we moved on completely now with CBT signing or if we hope to get him close to the end of the window stillMaccn05 said:
it came straight from the horses mouth (SMT) via another fan. Probably about a month ago and I don’t know how much he asked for or what we offered, but he said it was multiple offers made.CharltontillidieCOYR said:
Do you know this for certain ? And how do you know what him and his agent are asking for isnt excessive ?!Maccn05 said:I know we’ve made more than one offer for Josh Sims and he’s rejected them as we low-balled him.I’m sure if the offers were good enough he’d already be with us.
Make what you want of that and TS transfer strategy…
I did lot say before as was told in confidence but since he’s now referred to it elsewhere I might as well share.
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Last season we were paying the "left over dregs", Watson, Gunter, Bogle and Maddison about 5kish a week!! Dobson was rumoured to be on over 5 at Sunderland, I can't imagine he took a massive pay cut?blackpool72 said:When you hear of players earning 15k per week in league one that is ridiculous.
10k per week is still way too much.
But if you are serious about getting promotion then I believe 5k should be offered to the players you think are good enough to get you promotion.
That's easy for me to say as it's not my money but if your top offer is 3k as I've been told it is then you are going to miss out on your top targets.
If that means we miss out on promotion then it's a false economy in the long-term.
I don't believe we are offering 3k a week to first team players. I would imagine Stockley, Kirk and MacGillivray are all on "decent" money?3 -
That's the glass half full view.ShootersHillGuru said:
He’s talking to a much wider audience than just Charlton supporters.charlton_hero said:
Adkins keeps referencing the budget so I think we can assume it's tight.Maccn05 said:I know we’ve made more than one offer for Josh Sims and he’s rejected them as we low-balled him.I’m sure if the offers were good enough he’d already be with us.
Make what you want of that and TS transfer strategy…0 -
Definitely............My Mrs will be telling me dinner is on the table 😉.TheAddicks4Ever said:Is there and announcement 📣 at 6pm today ?8 -
It would make sense but I have to question if Sims is asking for more money than anyone is willing to pay and that’s why he doesn’t yet have a club.Maccn05 said:
it came straight from the horses mouth (SMT) via another fan. Probably about a month ago and I don’t know how much he asked for or what we offered, but he said it was multiple offers made.CharltontillidieCOYR said:
Do you know this for certain ? And how do you know what him and his agent are asking for isnt excessive ?!Maccn05 said:I know we’ve made more than one offer for Josh Sims and he’s rejected them as we low-balled him.I’m sure if the offers were good enough he’d already be with us.
Make what you want of that and TS transfer strategy…
I did lot say before as was told in confidence but since he’s now referred to it elsewhere I might as well share.
He/his agent have probably seen or heard the supposed figures flying around at Ipswich etc and want a slice of it. I doubt he’s impressed by the prospect of dropping down from the 10-15k p/w he was probably on at Southampton.
He’s going to have to lower his demands to get a deal. Whether that’s here or elsewhere.6 -
Don't believe for a second we're offering low wages when we've had it on good authority we offered Jordan Graham 9K a week
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You could call it all ways. To other clubs and agents or to the owner.charlton_hero said:
That's the glass half full view.ShootersHillGuru said:
He’s talking to a much wider audience than just Charlton supporters.charlton_hero said:
Adkins keeps referencing the budget so I think we can assume it's tight.Maccn05 said:I know we’ve made more than one offer for Josh Sims and he’s rejected them as we low-balled him.I’m sure if the offers were good enough he’d already be with us.
Make what you want of that and TS transfer strategy…1 -
True, but we don't know what the offer is or what was being asked. For all we know we ARE offering (for example) Sims 5-6k (which I seem to think is around what Stockley is on) but he's holding out for 10+.blackpool72 said:When you hear of players earning 15k per week in league one that is ridiculous.
10k per week is still way too much.
But if you are serious about getting promotion then I believe 5k should be offered to the players you think are good enough to get you promotion.
That's easy for me to say as it's not my money but if your top offer is 3k as I've been told it is then you are going to miss out on your top targets.
If that means we miss out on promotion then it's a false economy in the long-term.
3k sounds very very low and I genuinely can't see people like Gallen or Adkins going along with that knowing they're wasting their time.
I'm also far from convinced that Kirk would move all the way down at a time of personal loss for the sake of 3k.2 -
Depends how much Sims and his agent want. He’s been with Southampton for a while, so presume he was on a decent wage. Maybe one higher than a League 1 side are prepared to pay. I doubt Doncaster were paying his full wage last season.J BLOCK said:
Says everything we need to know about this disaster of a window.Maccn05 said:I know we’ve made more than one offer for Josh Sims and he’s rejected them as we low-balled him.I’m sure if the offers were good enough he’d already be with us.
Make what you want of that and TS transfer strategy…He’s been a free agent for a month and no one else has signed him up either, so not unlikely that his demands are too high for several clubs, not just us.3 -
Why do you think we are signing the likes of Dobson, Clare and Taylor.thenewbie said:
True, but we don't know what the offer is or what was being asked. For all we know we ARE offering (for example) Sims 5-6k (which I seem to think is around what Stockley is on) but he's holding out for 10+.blackpool72 said:When you hear of players earning 15k per week in league one that is ridiculous.
10k per week is still way too much.
But if you are serious about getting promotion then I believe 5k should be offered to the players you think are good enough to get you promotion.
That's easy for me to say as it's not my money but if your top offer is 3k as I've been told it is then you are going to miss out on your top targets.
If that means we miss out on promotion then it's a false economy in the long-term.
3k sounds very very low and I genuinely can't see people like Gallen or Adkins going along with that knowing they're wasting their time.
I'm also far from convinced that Kirk would move all the way down at a time of personal loss for the sake of 3k.
None of these will get us promotion but they come cheap.
Adkins keeps refering to sticking to a budget and what with we are signing I believe it's too low1 -
I’m not 100% as who knows which websites are true or not these days, but I’ve seen a few say Bannan is on £27k at Wednesday. I know that’s a follow on from a Championship contract, but it’s obscene, and ridiculous they didn’t have a relegation clause to decrease that wage.blackpool72 said:When you hear of players earning 15k per week in league one that is ridiculous.
10k per week is still way too much.
But if you are serious about getting promotion then I believe 5k should be offered to the players you think are good enough to get you promotion.
That's easy for me to say as it's not my money but if your top offer is 3k as I've been told it is then you are going to miss out on your top targets.
If that means we miss out on promotion then it's a false economy in the long-term.0 -
Even stranger he only signed a new contract in February when they were headed for the dropstoneroses19 said:
I’m not 100% as who knows which websites are true or not these days, but I’ve seen a few say Bannan is on £27k at Wednesday. I know that’s a follow on from a Championship contract, but it’s obscene, and ridiculous they didn’t have a relegation clause to decrease that wage.blackpool72 said:When you hear of players earning 15k per week in league one that is ridiculous.
10k per week is still way too much.
But if you are serious about getting promotion then I believe 5k should be offered to the players you think are good enough to get you promotion.
That's easy for me to say as it's not my money but if your top offer is 3k as I've been told it is then you are going to miss out on your top targets.
If that means we miss out on promotion then it's a false economy in the long-term.0 -
I'd take Crowley, whenever I've seen him play he looks like he's going to make something happen.1
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Yeah, and I'm sure Kirk, Stockley and McGillivray (and Famewo) are on peanuts...blackpool72 said:
Why do you think we are signing the likes of Dobson, Clare and Taylor.thenewbie said:
True, but we don't know what the offer is or what was being asked. For all we know we ARE offering (for example) Sims 5-6k (which I seem to think is around what Stockley is on) but he's holding out for 10+.blackpool72 said:When you hear of players earning 15k per week in league one that is ridiculous.
10k per week is still way too much.
But if you are serious about getting promotion then I believe 5k should be offered to the players you think are good enough to get you promotion.
That's easy for me to say as it's not my money but if your top offer is 3k as I've been told it is then you are going to miss out on your top targets.
If that means we miss out on promotion then it's a false economy in the long-term.
3k sounds very very low and I genuinely can't see people like Gallen or Adkins going along with that knowing they're wasting their time.
I'm also far from convinced that Kirk would move all the way down at a time of personal loss for the sake of 3k.
None of these will get us promotion but they come cheap.
Adkins keeps refering to sticking to a budget and what with we are signing I believe it's too low
I think we're offering higher wages to players that the club think are worth it. But I do think that it's very possible that the powers that be have a definition of "worth it" that is more restrictive than it needs to be.1 -
We offered Mullin £8,999.99 per week.5
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The transfer window closes soon.thenewbie said:
Yeah, and I'm sure Kirk, Stockley and McGillivray (and Famewo) are on peanuts...blackpool72 said:
Why do you think we are signing the likes of Dobson, Clare and Taylor.thenewbie said:
True, but we don't know what the offer is or what was being asked. For all we know we ARE offering (for example) Sims 5-6k (which I seem to think is around what Stockley is on) but he's holding out for 10+.blackpool72 said:When you hear of players earning 15k per week in league one that is ridiculous.
10k per week is still way too much.
But if you are serious about getting promotion then I believe 5k should be offered to the players you think are good enough to get you promotion.
That's easy for me to say as it's not my money but if your top offer is 3k as I've been told it is then you are going to miss out on your top targets.
If that means we miss out on promotion then it's a false economy in the long-term.
3k sounds very very low and I genuinely can't see people like Gallen or Adkins going along with that knowing they're wasting their time.
I'm also far from convinced that Kirk would move all the way down at a time of personal loss for the sake of 3k.
None of these will get us promotion but they come cheap.
Adkins keeps refering to sticking to a budget and what with we are signing I believe it's too low
I think we're offering higher wages to players that the club think are worth it. But I do think that it's very possible that the powers that be have a definition of "worth it" that is more restrictive than it needs to be.
We shall then find out if we are offering decent wages or not.
Be prepared to be disappointed and spend another year in league one.1 -
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If Charlton had a player on £27k when we were relegated, he'd have been pushed out in the summer, no doubting. That sounds like our first 11 budget! On the point, how come Wendies are able to come out of a transfer embargo and be throwing contracts left right and centre. We on the other hand are stable Stanley's and are missing out on pretty much everyone. I can't believe we haven't wanted any of the players that, Ipswich, Wigan, Wednesday etc have been signing, so the only reason for signing has to be the wages AND confidence in their prospects.stoneroses19 said:
I’m not 100% as who knows which websites are true or not these days, but I’ve seen a few say Bannan is on £27k at Wednesday. I know that’s a follow on from a Championship contract, but it’s obscene, and ridiculous they didn’t have a relegation clause to decrease that wage.blackpool72 said:When you hear of players earning 15k per week in league one that is ridiculous.
10k per week is still way too much.
But if you are serious about getting promotion then I believe 5k should be offered to the players you think are good enough to get you promotion.
That's easy for me to say as it's not my money but if your top offer is 3k as I've been told it is then you are going to miss out on your top targets.
If that means we miss out on promotion then it's a false economy in the long-term.1 -
Hadn’t realised that. What a joke.MattF said:
Even stranger he only signed a new contract in February when they were headed for the dropstoneroses19 said:
I’m not 100% as who knows which websites are true or not these days, but I’ve seen a few say Bannan is on £27k at Wednesday. I know that’s a follow on from a Championship contract, but it’s obscene, and ridiculous they didn’t have a relegation clause to decrease that wage.blackpool72 said:When you hear of players earning 15k per week in league one that is ridiculous.
10k per week is still way too much.
But if you are serious about getting promotion then I believe 5k should be offered to the players you think are good enough to get you promotion.
That's easy for me to say as it's not my money but if your top offer is 3k as I've been told it is then you are going to miss out on your top targets.
If that means we miss out on promotion then it's a false economy in the long-term.0 -
Cattermole was on about 40k a week in league 1, his salary halved when they got relegated from the Premiership but not the championship.2
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As things stand I'll bite your hand off to spend another year in League 1 !!!blackpool72 said:
The transfer window closes soon.thenewbie said:
Yeah, and I'm sure Kirk, Stockley and McGillivray (and Famewo) are on peanuts...blackpool72 said:
Why do you think we are signing the likes of Dobson, Clare and Taylor.thenewbie said:
True, but we don't know what the offer is or what was being asked. For all we know we ARE offering (for example) Sims 5-6k (which I seem to think is around what Stockley is on) but he's holding out for 10+.blackpool72 said:When you hear of players earning 15k per week in league one that is ridiculous.
10k per week is still way too much.
But if you are serious about getting promotion then I believe 5k should be offered to the players you think are good enough to get you promotion.
That's easy for me to say as it's not my money but if your top offer is 3k as I've been told it is then you are going to miss out on your top targets.
If that means we miss out on promotion then it's a false economy in the long-term.
3k sounds very very low and I genuinely can't see people like Gallen or Adkins going along with that knowing they're wasting their time.
I'm also far from convinced that Kirk would move all the way down at a time of personal loss for the sake of 3k.
None of these will get us promotion but they come cheap.
Adkins keeps refering to sticking to a budget and what with we are signing I believe it's too low
I think we're offering higher wages to players that the club think are worth it. But I do think that it's very possible that the powers that be have a definition of "worth it" that is more restrictive than it needs to be.
We shall then find out if we are offering decent wages or not.
Be prepared to be disappointed and spend another year in league one.2 -
Yes, it'll be on the 6 o'clock newsTheAddicks4Ever said:Is there and announcement 📣 at 6pm today ?
"Tonight's main story. Charlton Athletic have once again signed nobody. We'll have all the latest from our special correspondent Louis Mendez. Later, in other news, today in Afghanistan..."12 -
Just a few months ago we were celebrating the wage cap being removed. That's worked well for us!10
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I’m definitely out of touch with football in general these days. I get what he brings to a side, but £40k a week for Cattermole seems ridiculous.Cafc43v3r said:Cattermole was on about 40k a week in league 1, his salary halved when they got relegated from the Premiership but not the championship.0 -
Sadly it was removed from other clubs as well.Redvaliant said:Just a few months ago we were celebrating the wage cap being removed. That's worked well for us!2 -
He was on 80 in the prem!!stoneroses19 said:
I’m definitely out of touch with football in general these days. I get what he brings to a side, but £40k a week for Cattermole seems ridiculous.Cafc43v3r said:Cattermole was on about 40k a week in league 1, his salary halved when they got relegated from the Premiership but not the championship.1 -
I take the fact that you think we will be in L1 next season as positive!blackpool72 said:
The transfer window closes soon.thenewbie said:
Yeah, and I'm sure Kirk, Stockley and McGillivray (and Famewo) are on peanuts...blackpool72 said:
Why do you think we are signing the likes of Dobson, Clare and Taylor.thenewbie said:
True, but we don't know what the offer is or what was being asked. For all we know we ARE offering (for example) Sims 5-6k (which I seem to think is around what Stockley is on) but he's holding out for 10+.blackpool72 said:When you hear of players earning 15k per week in league one that is ridiculous.
10k per week is still way too much.
But if you are serious about getting promotion then I believe 5k should be offered to the players you think are good enough to get you promotion.
That's easy for me to say as it's not my money but if your top offer is 3k as I've been told it is then you are going to miss out on your top targets.
If that means we miss out on promotion then it's a false economy in the long-term.
3k sounds very very low and I genuinely can't see people like Gallen or Adkins going along with that knowing they're wasting their time.
I'm also far from convinced that Kirk would move all the way down at a time of personal loss for the sake of 3k.
None of these will get us promotion but they come cheap.
Adkins keeps refering to sticking to a budget and what with we are signing I believe it's too low
I think we're offering higher wages to players that the club think are worth it. But I do think that it's very possible that the powers that be have a definition of "worth it" that is more restrictive than it needs to be.
We shall then find out if we are offering decent wages or not.
Be prepared to be disappointed and spend another year in league one.1
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