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You’re Not Fit To Wear The Shirt……
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Compromise; you're not quite good enough to wear the shirt.0
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But then how does that work if you're not going to single out players.BR7_addick said:You get praise, admiration and for some, worship like chants and songs when you’re a particular talent (Kermorgant/Jensen) or put in the shift and run through a wall for the club (Kishishev/Semedo/Johnny Robinson).
But you take the flip side when the chips are down. I don’t see an issue personally. Doesn’t mean I don’t see the argument against it, I just feel the fans are more than entitled to air their feelings about the team, just as long as it doesn’t get personal, and start singling out individuals.
Imagine being McGillivary Saturday night, a
mate asks how you got on.
I thought I played well , the fans sang Charlton s no1 for 3 quarters of the game.
Then at the end their chanting "you're not fit to wear the shirt"
Or Charlie Kirk to a mate
Blimey I've played 1 full game and I'm getting you're not fit to wear the shirt.5 -
I don’t know, there’s no perfect scenario, maybe it is a little stupid. I’m just of the opinion that the fans singing “you’re not fit to wear the shirt” isn’t that bad.clb74 said:
But then how does that work if you're not going to single out players.BR7_addick said:You get praise, admiration and for some, worship like chants and songs when you’re a particular talent (Kermorgant/Jensen) or put in the shift and run through a wall for the club (Kishishev/Semedo/Johnny Robinson).
But you take the flip side when the chips are down. I don’t see an issue personally. Doesn’t mean I don’t see the argument against it, I just feel the fans are more than entitled to air their feelings about the team, just as long as it doesn’t get personal, and start singling out individuals.
Imagine being McGillivary Saturday night, a
mate asks how you got on.
I thought I played well , the fans sang Charlton s no1 for 3 quarters of the game.
Then at the end their chanting "you're not fit to wear the shirt"
Or Charlie Kirk to a mate
Blimey I've played 1 full game and I'm getting you're not fit to wear the shirt.1 -
My take is the chant is more directed at the ownership/ management, driving it home to them in no uncertain terms the team ain’t good enough and investment is needed pronto.3
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0 at present as we have a penalty and a cross from a free kick as our goals!JamesSeed said:
I wonder what percentage of goals are scored after a long ball to the a big fella upfront.cs1986 said:
It's both really. The players are not close to being good enough and the tactics compound this. We are never going to score goals like we concede as our striker has no pace or finishing ability with his feet. He wins so much in the air but has no one around him. Dobson and Clare are poor league 1 players. Morgan is out of position. Matthews and Gunter are not good enough and don't care. Innis looks poor to me this season and like cart horse. Washington is not a winger in a million years.cafcdave123 said:
that's not the fault of the playerscs1986 said:
It was started at MK Dons by the same group of fans that had brought the drum and started 99% of the positive chants throughout the whole game. I was part of it and thought it was 100% deserved. The second half was abysmal and tactics inept.AFKABartram said:Well said @RaplhMilne
i thought it was pretty w*nky, particularly being sung at MK Dons during the week.To me it’s something to be sung at the nadir or the season, 4-0 down away to some crap club when you’re 19th in the league in Feb and going nowhere.Never in August.Our fanbase has been through the mill more than others, The support for the majority of the game until they scored was fantastic. We are just ‘turning the other way’ too easily and quickly now though imo
you're not fit to pick the team is more accurate imho.2 -
I agree with you that it aint that bad. And for all the moaning about the people doing it they would also be moaning if the same people didn't create an atmosphere at the Valley.BR7_addick said:
I don’t know, there’s no perfect scenario, maybe it is a little stupid. I’m just of the opinion that the fans singing “you’re not fit to wear the shirt” isn’t that bad.clb74 said:
But then how does that work if you're not going to single out players.BR7_addick said:You get praise, admiration and for some, worship like chants and songs when you’re a particular talent (Kermorgant/Jensen) or put in the shift and run through a wall for the club (Kishishev/Semedo/Johnny Robinson).
But you take the flip side when the chips are down. I don’t see an issue personally. Doesn’t mean I don’t see the argument against it, I just feel the fans are more than entitled to air their feelings about the team, just as long as it doesn’t get personal, and start singling out individuals.
Imagine being McGillivary Saturday night, a
mate asks how you got on.
I thought I played well , the fans sang Charlton s no1 for 3 quarters of the game.
Then at the end their chanting "you're not fit to wear the shirt"
Or Charlie Kirk to a mate
Blimey I've played 1 full game and I'm getting you're not fit to wear the shirt.
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Not read the whole thread- its definitely frustrating watching at the moment with absolutely nothing to get you excited on the pitch in the way of shots/chances. I have never booed, and I will not sing that not fit chant. What i will say is, 95% of the people singing it on Saturday will be stumping up their hard earned cash at the next home game, and giving 100% support to cheer the team on for 90 minutes (or most of 90 minutes) to hopefully some success.If these guys weren't there week in week out, supporting Charlton through a bad patch would be even more soul destroying.
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I think the "we're fucking shit" ditty was much more accurate tbf. Straight to the point and factual! It's clear the players are trying, but they just aren't very good at the moment. Maybe they'll turn it around, maybe they won't, we'll see. Was saying after the game how excited TS was about seeing fans back in the stadium. Guess he didn't imagine that kind of reaction though haha! Goes both ways mate.0
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Penalty from a corner and a Dead Ball, who put them in?cs1986 said:
0 at present as we have a penalty and a cross from a free kick as our goals!JamesSeed said:
I wonder what percentage of goals are scored after a long ball to the a big fella upfront.cs1986 said:
It's both really. The players are not close to being good enough and the tactics compound this. We are never going to score goals like we concede as our striker has no pace or finishing ability with his feet. He wins so much in the air but has no one around him. Dobson and Clare are poor league 1 players. Morgan is out of position. Matthews and Gunter are not good enough and don't care. Innis looks poor to me this season and like cart horse. Washington is not a winger in a million years.cafcdave123 said:
that's not the fault of the playerscs1986 said:
It was started at MK Dons by the same group of fans that had brought the drum and started 99% of the positive chants throughout the whole game. I was part of it and thought it was 100% deserved. The second half was abysmal and tactics inept.AFKABartram said:Well said @RaplhMilne
i thought it was pretty w*nky, particularly being sung at MK Dons during the week.To me it’s something to be sung at the nadir or the season, 4-0 down away to some crap club when you’re 19th in the league in Feb and going nowhere.Never in August.Our fanbase has been through the mill more than others, The support for the majority of the game until they scored was fantastic. We are just ‘turning the other way’ too easily and quickly now though imo
you're not fit to pick the team is more accurate imho.0 -
Morgan assisted them both. Why? I like Morgan mate.Charltonparklane said:
Penalty from a corner and a Dead Ball, who put them in?cs1986 said:
0 at present as we have a penalty and a cross from a free kick as our goals!JamesSeed said:
I wonder what percentage of goals are scored after a long ball to the a big fella upfront.cs1986 said:
It's both really. The players are not close to being good enough and the tactics compound this. We are never going to score goals like we concede as our striker has no pace or finishing ability with his feet. He wins so much in the air but has no one around him. Dobson and Clare are poor league 1 players. Morgan is out of position. Matthews and Gunter are not good enough and don't care. Innis looks poor to me this season and like cart horse. Washington is not a winger in a million years.cafcdave123 said:
that's not the fault of the playerscs1986 said:
It was started at MK Dons by the same group of fans that had brought the drum and started 99% of the positive chants throughout the whole game. I was part of it and thought it was 100% deserved. The second half was abysmal and tactics inept.AFKABartram said:Well said @RaplhMilne
i thought it was pretty w*nky, particularly being sung at MK Dons during the week.To me it’s something to be sung at the nadir or the season, 4-0 down away to some crap club when you’re 19th in the league in Feb and going nowhere.Never in August.Our fanbase has been through the mill more than others, The support for the majority of the game until they scored was fantastic. We are just ‘turning the other way’ too easily and quickly now though imo
you're not fit to pick the team is more accurate imho.0 -
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This is quite funny though as it's like we are taking the micky out of ourselves as a club. You'e not fit to wear the shirt is aimed purley at the players so may be quite demotivating for them. (not saying anyone hasn't got a right tYTS1978 said:I think the "we're fucking shit" ditty was much more accurate tbf.
o give their opinion in any way they want, just feel it may be construed as more negative)1 -
I was being ironic mate as I think he's a great little player being absolute rinsed by fans due to the lack of personnel around him.cs1986 said:
Morgan assisted them both. Why? I like Morgan mate.Charltonparklane said:
Penalty from a corner and a Dead Ball, who put them in?cs1986 said:
0 at present as we have a penalty and a cross from a free kick as our goals!JamesSeed said:
I wonder what percentage of goals are scored after a long ball to the a big fella upfront.cs1986 said:
It's both really. The players are not close to being good enough and the tactics compound this. We are never going to score goals like we concede as our striker has no pace or finishing ability with his feet. He wins so much in the air but has no one around him. Dobson and Clare are poor league 1 players. Morgan is out of position. Matthews and Gunter are not good enough and don't care. Innis looks poor to me this season and like cart horse. Washington is not a winger in a million years.cafcdave123 said:
that's not the fault of the playerscs1986 said:
It was started at MK Dons by the same group of fans that had brought the drum and started 99% of the positive chants throughout the whole game. I was part of it and thought it was 100% deserved. The second half was abysmal and tactics inept.AFKABartram said:Well said @RaplhMilne
i thought it was pretty w*nky, particularly being sung at MK Dons during the week.To me it’s something to be sung at the nadir or the season, 4-0 down away to some crap club when you’re 19th in the league in Feb and going nowhere.Never in August.Our fanbase has been through the mill more than others, The support for the majority of the game until they scored was fantastic. We are just ‘turning the other way’ too easily and quickly now though imo
you're not fit to pick the team is more accurate imho.1 -
I agree with the original post and thought the same - that it came from a younger element who don’t understand the magnitude and gravity of the chant. For a normal football club (like ours) that should be around a 1 in every 10-15 year event and reserved for a team that doesn’t give a shit - not this bunch.4
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… and yes you’ve a got the right to chant what you want but I’ve got the right to deem whatever you chant as inappropriate and disproportionate
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Completely agree mate. He would be much better playing deeper as well. And he has no outlet to play balls as no one is looking to run in behind the defences.Charltonparklane said:
I was being ironic mate as I think he's a great little player being absolute rinsed by fans due to the lack of personnel around him.cs1986 said:
Morgan assisted them both. Why? I like Morgan mate.Charltonparklane said:
Penalty from a corner and a Dead Ball, who put them in?cs1986 said:
0 at present as we have a penalty and a cross from a free kick as our goals!JamesSeed said:
I wonder what percentage of goals are scored after a long ball to the a big fella upfront.cs1986 said:
It's both really. The players are not close to being good enough and the tactics compound this. We are never going to score goals like we concede as our striker has no pace or finishing ability with his feet. He wins so much in the air but has no one around him. Dobson and Clare are poor league 1 players. Morgan is out of position. Matthews and Gunter are not good enough and don't care. Innis looks poor to me this season and like cart horse. Washington is not a winger in a million years.cafcdave123 said:
that's not the fault of the playerscs1986 said:
It was started at MK Dons by the same group of fans that had brought the drum and started 99% of the positive chants throughout the whole game. I was part of it and thought it was 100% deserved. The second half was abysmal and tactics inept.AFKABartram said:Well said @RaplhMilne
i thought it was pretty w*nky, particularly being sung at MK Dons during the week.To me it’s something to be sung at the nadir or the season, 4-0 down away to some crap club when you’re 19th in the league in Feb and going nowhere.Never in August.Our fanbase has been through the mill more than others, The support for the majority of the game until they scored was fantastic. We are just ‘turning the other way’ too easily and quickly now though imo
you're not fit to pick the team is more accurate imho.0 -
100%, see my previous post in the Albie Morgan thread, it pretty much states what you posted.cs1986 said:
Completely agree mate. He would be much better playing deeper as well. And he has no outlet to play balls as no one is looking to run in behind the defences.Charltonparklane said:
I was being ironic mate as I think he's a great little player being absolute rinsed by fans due to the lack of personnel around him.cs1986 said:
Morgan assisted them both. Why? I like Morgan mate.Charltonparklane said:
Penalty from a corner and a Dead Ball, who put them in?cs1986 said:
0 at present as we have a penalty and a cross from a free kick as our goals!JamesSeed said:
I wonder what percentage of goals are scored after a long ball to the a big fella upfront.cs1986 said:
It's both really. The players are not close to being good enough and the tactics compound this. We are never going to score goals like we concede as our striker has no pace or finishing ability with his feet. He wins so much in the air but has no one around him. Dobson and Clare are poor league 1 players. Morgan is out of position. Matthews and Gunter are not good enough and don't care. Innis looks poor to me this season and like cart horse. Washington is not a winger in a million years.cafcdave123 said:
that's not the fault of the playerscs1986 said:
It was started at MK Dons by the same group of fans that had brought the drum and started 99% of the positive chants throughout the whole game. I was part of it and thought it was 100% deserved. The second half was abysmal and tactics inept.AFKABartram said:Well said @RaplhMilne
i thought it was pretty w*nky, particularly being sung at MK Dons during the week.To me it’s something to be sung at the nadir or the season, 4-0 down away to some crap club when you’re 19th in the league in Feb and going nowhere.Never in August.Our fanbase has been through the mill more than others, The support for the majority of the game until they scored was fantastic. We are just ‘turning the other way’ too easily and quickly now though imo
you're not fit to pick the team is more accurate imho.0 -
I will take a look pal.Charltonparklane said:
100%, see my previous post in the Albie Morgan thread, it pretty much states what you posted.cs1986 said:
Completely agree mate. He would be much better playing deeper as well. And he has no outlet to play balls as no one is looking to run in behind the defences.Charltonparklane said:
I was being ironic mate as I think he's a great little player being absolute rinsed by fans due to the lack of personnel around him.cs1986 said:
Morgan assisted them both. Why? I like Morgan mate.Charltonparklane said:
Penalty from a corner and a Dead Ball, who put them in?cs1986 said:
0 at present as we have a penalty and a cross from a free kick as our goals!JamesSeed said:
I wonder what percentage of goals are scored after a long ball to the a big fella upfront.cs1986 said:
It's both really. The players are not close to being good enough and the tactics compound this. We are never going to score goals like we concede as our striker has no pace or finishing ability with his feet. He wins so much in the air but has no one around him. Dobson and Clare are poor league 1 players. Morgan is out of position. Matthews and Gunter are not good enough and don't care. Innis looks poor to me this season and like cart horse. Washington is not a winger in a million years.cafcdave123 said:
that's not the fault of the playerscs1986 said:
It was started at MK Dons by the same group of fans that had brought the drum and started 99% of the positive chants throughout the whole game. I was part of it and thought it was 100% deserved. The second half was abysmal and tactics inept.AFKABartram said:Well said @RaplhMilne
i thought it was pretty w*nky, particularly being sung at MK Dons during the week.To me it’s something to be sung at the nadir or the season, 4-0 down away to some crap club when you’re 19th in the league in Feb and going nowhere.Never in August.Our fanbase has been through the mill more than others, The support for the majority of the game until they scored was fantastic. We are just ‘turning the other way’ too easily and quickly now though imo
you're not fit to pick the team is more accurate imho.0 -
Also, launching straight in with "you're not fit to wear the shirt" when they're a bit shit doesn't leave you anywhere to go if they turn in a really shit performance.TeeC said:I agree with the original post and thought the same - that it came from a younger element who don’t understand the magnitude and gravity of the chant. For a normal football club (like ours) that should be around a 1 in every 10-15 year event and reserved for a team that doesn’t give a shit - not this bunch.
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Grow up, no one's "blaming" fans. Just pointing out that it's a chant best used when it's deserved when it's an issue of players not putting in the effort. It's a chant that you can't take back even if we start winning. A good booing just goes with a performance and would have been just as effective.Belv said:Wondered how long it would take for a “it’s the fan’s fault” thread to be created.
Almost as predictable as Charlton’s game plan.
The vocal support during the game was fantastic and no player showed any lack of effort or commitment. For that reason the chant was wrong and the leaders who started it were wrong, but understand they probably couldn't think of anything else to express the level of frustration we all feel.
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Les Reed only had 8!Ducktapeshoerepairs said:This booing when Wigan scored and now a default at the end of a game whenever we lose is embarrassing. Singing ‘you’re not fit to wear the shirt’ is also embarrassing. There’s a time and a place for it. We all know that the team isn’t good enough and the manager has acknowledged that. Let’s see what happens between now and the end of the window… nothing is won or lost in 4 games
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Didn’t Karel Fraeye get out of it by playing 4-left backs in one game, a patented formation that nobody has even tried since. I mean we don’t even have the staff for it nowadays unless TS signs up some more Roddies0
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Yeah, have to agree that was pure gallows humour. The "you're not fit..." chant was harsh, but I wouldn't knock the people singing it, if that's how they felt at the time.croydonaddick said:
This is quite funny though as it's like we are taking the micky out of ourselves as a club. You'e not fit to wear the shirt is aimed purley at the players so may be quite demotivating for them. (not saying anyone hasn't got a right tYTS1978 said:I think the "we're fucking shit" ditty was much more accurate tbf.
o give their opinion in any way they want, just feel it may be construed as more negative)0 -
Oldham fans were protesting last night by throwing tennis balls on the pitch. Aaaagggh, memories!0
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It doesn’t matter what the fans sing
let’s not forget we’d have done sooo much better at home last year if the fans were in
well they’re back and we’re shit
why’s that , well because we are massively shit atm
we can sing as long as we like it’s not gonna make the shit players good or the good players bad .
Its all about how good they are or will become with grafting and coaching at the training ground .
if it was about fans support , Sunderland and Pompey would be in leagues above
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I know right? We've never been relegated in seasons with fans in the ground!oohaahmortimer said:let’s not forget we’d have done sooo much better at home last year if the fans were in0 -
Football fans getting the hump and singing songs when their team is playing shite.
Who'd a thought it.
Dread to think what they will sing if we go a couple down at Gillingham.1 -
“physical endurance acceptable but technical ability and tactical awareness currently lacking to wear the shirt”blackpool72 said:Football fans getting the hump and singing songs when their team is playing shite.
Who'd a thought it.
Dread to think what they will sing if we go a couple down at Gillingham.1 -
Crap song.AFKABartram said:
“physical endurance acceptable but technical ability and tactical awareness currently lacking to wear the shirt”blackpool72 said:Football fans getting the hump and singing songs when their team is playing shite.
Who'd a thought it.
Dread to think what they will sing if we go a couple down at Gillingham.
It doesn't rhyme 😊1










