Have a team ever agreed to a deal like that with a player?
I think Solly didn't fancy it and wanted a free contract extension when he knew we were letting him go.
Doesn't put him in a good light and after his football wages for 10+ years he was still trying to milk every penny.
Football has never been in that position before asking players to play on beyond thrre allotted contracts.
Can anyone honestly say Sollys request was unreasonable was he asking the club to double his wage or even add to it- no
He just wanted assurances for him and his young family that if he played on and got an injury that rules him out for an extended period so he couldn't get another club immediately that he still had a wage coming in.
I personally have no issue with that
He was paid for months to sit around and do nothing during covid. Like a large percentage of the population. Should he have told the club not to pay him?
He was asked to come back and put in the work that he missed (and was paid for) during that time. Even offered an extension to his contract to play until the end of the season. "Asked to ...put in the work he missed?" What does that even mean?
Solly has weaselled out of it because he wanted a contract extension written in if he came back (if he gets injured). I'd have done the same - contracts aren't one way - they are a negotiation.
He knew it was his last big payday and tried to get as much out of it as possible. He knew he wouldn't be offered a new contract, why wouldn't he optimise his contract.
No but when footballers are given the chance to finish the season they were paid for, they should have been willing to do it.
Clubs were struggling financially and Solly chose to try and hold Charlton up for ransom instead of helping a club out that he's played for since the age of 18.
He's no better than Taylor. And who isn't to say Solly fakes an injury towards the end of the season to make sure he gets a contract extension on more money than he'd ever hope to have gotten this season.
Fake an injury
With medical professionals and scans.
This isnt some two bit sunday league team and a player trying to get out of a game.
You cant fake a serious injury with a professional club what are you on about
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
I think a lot of people are missing the point here.
On a scale of 0 (absolutely zero chance) and 10 (a certainty) what were the actual chances of Bowyer picking Solly:
(1) Bowyer hadn't picked Solly for a game since December (2) Solly had been told by Bowyer that he was going to be released (3) We picked up 7 points and failed to concede a goal in the three games Solly refused to play in
The answer has to be 0. Now having established that, are we seriously going to blame Solly for us going down in the same way as we might Taylor?
Bowyer couldn't say that he was comfortable with Solly not playing (or even Davis) because that would only serve to back Taylor's stance. And it also suited Bowyer to say that we were, not one, but three men down for the run in.
Solly hadn't played for six months and there's every chance that he might have been injured having been out of consideration for so long. He played over 300 games for the Club and we will, almost certainly, be his only Football League club.
For these reasons I will never ever blame him for our relegation or for saying that the wanted some sort of insurance. In fact, he might be our last ever player to play that number of games for us and yet some people want his legacy to be that he let us down by not playing in three games he was never going to be picked for in the first place. I just don't get it.
Totally agree with all of this. As far as I'm concerned anyone who plays for the club for so long and racks up so many games for us is someone who should be remembered fondly, he certainly is by me. I always felt he was one of those players that had things gone slightly differently for could have played at a much higher level.
I'm not sure anyone really knows what went on other than Solly and a distinct few figures at the club. There is a lot of rumour and speculation to fill the void but I can't see how anyone knows precisely what went on. As others have said contracts are a negotiation and whilst I'm sure he earnt good money whilst playing for us I doubt he earnt figures which guarantee a retirement at 35, he still needed to earn a living and would have gone into contract negotiations with that in mind. I can absolutely see a situation where he has asked for an extra year in order to play on because it's what I would have done, as said before contracts are all about negotiating. Perhaps he went into those negotiations expecting some give and take and was flat out told there wasn't any movement. Who knows.
That was always what I felt was different between Solly and Taylor, everything I have read suggests there was some effort by Solly to work things out and for whatever reason it didn't happen. Perhaps he is to blame for that, perhaps the club is. Perhaps it's a bit of both. Taylor however never had any intention of kicking a ball for us once Covid hit and all he was focused on was chasing his big pay day at Forest regardless of whether it impacted his current employers.
I think you are right in your view that it suited Bowyer to name and shame those who seemingly didn't want to play on, I think he was trying to create a siege mentality and also he would have known he could use it as mitigation if we went down. However if I was Solly I'd be fuming as well at having my name put out like that in public and perhaps that is his grievance.
I find the whole situation so disappointing that a player who deserves to be remembered fondly left under such a cloud, I seem to remember it being mentioned that he had done an interview with the club after he left that explained things but that it was never aired? It's a real shame he's never been able to come out and shed some light on what happened. Normally in situations like this in the absence of any factual information rumour and gossip makes things out to be ten times worse or more dramatic than they actually are.
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money. No doubt he did well for his age but I doubt it’s a case where he can afford to not ever work again in some form.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
If you're on 2000 a week, that's 104000 a year.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
On the 'thoughts of Solly not playing' thread there's several posts about a dispute going to the PFA. I've not made it up.
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
I'd be amazed if he was...a 30 year old who has played a chunk of his career in the 3rd tier....
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
If you're on 2000 a week, that's 104000 a year.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
Those figures are before you factor in tax, national insurance and pension. By the time you knock that off you are getting a substantially lower figure.
I don't doubt Solly was well rewarded for his time here but I think people have a over-inflated view of what players earn over their careers, I just checked and he is only 30 years of age having only had one career in his life, that of a professional footballer. You would assume like the rest of us that whatever career he goes into next he is going to be starting at the bottom of the ladder, and professional footballer sounds great on paper however I doubt there are many industries where it counts for very much in the real world.
If he was sensible then perhaps he's put some money away or made some wise investments but I imagine he isn't going to be living out the rest of his days on a tropical island somewhere, he's going to have to make a living doing something else.
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
If you're on 2000 a week, that's 104000 a year.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
On the 'thoughts of Solly not playing' thread there's several posts about a dispute going to the PFA. I've not made it up.
Earning +100k a year for 10 years when you have another 25 years before you can pull down any degree of pension, and another 32 years before you can fully access a pension does not make you set for life by any stretch of the imagination.
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
If you're on 2000 a week, that's 104000 a year.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
On the 'thoughts of Solly not playing' thread there's several posts about a dispute going to the PFA. I've not made it up.
Earning +100k a year for 10 years when you have another 25 years before you can pull down any degree of pension, and another 32 years before you can fully access a pension does not make you set for life by any stretch of the imagination.
He's earned more in 10 years than most fans will earn in a lifetime.
If he was sensible and made some smart decisions, such as investing, he would not need to have another job again.
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
If you're on 2000 a week, that's 104000 a year.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
On the 'thoughts of Solly not playing' thread there's several posts about a dispute going to the PFA. I've not made it up.
Earning +100k a year for 10 years when you have another 25 years before you can pull down any degree of pension, and another 32 years before you can fully access a pension does not make you set for life by any stretch of the imagination.
He's earned more in 10 years than most fans will earn in a lifetime.
If he was sensible and made some smart decisions, such as investing, he would not need to have another job again.
Whether Solly was right or wrong, your appreciation of personal economics is laughable..
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
If you're on 2000 a week, that's 104000 a year.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
On the 'thoughts of Solly not playing' thread there's several posts about a dispute going to the PFA. I've not made it up.
Earning +100k a year for 10 years when you have another 25 years before you can pull down any degree of pension, and another 32 years before you can fully access a pension does not make you set for life by any stretch of the imagination.
He's earned more in 10 years than most fans will earn in a lifetime.
If he was sensible and made some smart decisions, such as investing, he would not need to have another job again.
Whether Solly was right or wrong, your appreciation of personal economics is laughable..
I'm not really into the 'feel sorry for him he was thinking about his family' after pocketing over a million pound (at the very least) in the previous number of years.
Doesn 't matter how much you earn a month out with being a millionaire, your lifestyle is matched accordingly. So he will have savings but not as much people would expect.
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
If you're on 2000 a week, that's 104000 a year.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
On the 'thoughts of Solly not playing' thread there's several posts about a dispute going to the PFA. I've not made it up.
Earning +100k a year for 10 years when you have another 25 years before you can pull down any degree of pension, and another 32 years before you can fully access a pension does not make you set for life by any stretch of the imagination.
He's earned more in 10 years than most fans will earn in a lifetime.
If he was sensible and made some smart decisions, such as investing, he would not need to have another job again.
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
If you're on 2000 a week, that's 104000 a year.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
On the 'thoughts of Solly not playing' thread there's several posts about a dispute going to the PFA. I've not made it up.
Earning +100k a year for 10 years when you have another 25 years before you can pull down any degree of pension, and another 32 years before you can fully access a pension does not make you set for life by any stretch of the imagination.
He's earned more in 10 years than most fans will earn in a lifetime.
If he was sensible and made some smart decisions, such as investing, he would not need to have another job again.
Sorry, but this is complete rubbish.
Agreed, even if he averaged £120k per year, so £1.2m gross in 10 years by the time he pays his taxes that's about £700k, if he bought a £450k house that's £250k or £25k a year to live on IF he'd paid his mortgage off..... before any interest of course.
I'm sure he has some savings, and hopefully invested some, but for someone with 35 years to retirement he's a long way from never having to work again.
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
If you're on 2000 a week, that's 104000 a year.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
On the 'thoughts of Solly not playing' thread there's several posts about a dispute going to the PFA. I've not made it up.
Earning +100k a year for 10 years when you have another 25 years before you can pull down any degree of pension, and another 32 years before you can fully access a pension does not make you set for life by any stretch of the imagination.
He's earned more in 10 years than most fans will earn in a lifetime.
If he was sensible and made some smart decisions, such as investing, he would not need to have another job again.
Sorry, but this is complete rubbish.
Agreed, even if he averaged £120k per year, so £1.2m gross in 10 years by the time he pays his taxes that's about £700k, if he bought a £450k house that's £250k or £25k a year to live on IF he'd paid his mortgage off..... before any interest of course.
I'm sure he has some savings, and hopefully invested some, but for someone with 35 years to retirement he's a long way from never having to work again.
I told you. Next manager. Nailed on. Why? Some people have mentioned Terry. He's better than John Terry and that is a fact. Chris Solly Solly. He's only 5 foot 3. He's better than John Terry. And he isn't a twat.
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
If you're on 2000 a week, that's 104000 a year.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
On the 'thoughts of Solly not playing' thread there's several posts about a dispute going to the PFA. I've not made it up.
This is laughable! you will not be set up for life earning 100k per year for 10 years - I can absolutely promise you that! For a start you have 40% of that taxed.
We can all sit here and claim we’d have done better but he’s 30 YO his earning power greatly diminished and has a young family to provide for. If I was him I’d do anything to protect them and I’m sure many would in that position!
Have a team ever agreed to a deal like that with a player?
I think Solly didn't fancy it and wanted a free contract extension when he knew we were letting him go.
Doesn't put him in a good light and after his football wages for 10+ years he was still trying to milk every penny.
Football has never been in that position before asking players to play on beyond thrre allotted contracts.
Can anyone honestly say Sollys request was unreasonable was he asking the club to double his wage or even add to it- no
He just wanted assurances for him and his young family that if he played on and got an injury that rules him out for an extended period so he couldn't get another club immediately that he still had a wage coming in.
I personally have no issue with that
He was paid for months to sit around and do nothing during covid.
He was asked to come back and put in the work that he missed (and was paid for) during that time. Even offered an extension to his contract to play until the end of the season.
Solly has weaselled out of it because he wanted a contract extension written in if he came back (if he gets injured).
He knew it was his last big payday and tried to get as much out of it as possible.
The PFA as always failed to take a lead here
Football contracts run until the end of June, not because June is a special month, but because it's there to cover the end of the season. Everything is geared around seasons in football, or half seasons between transfer windows. Imagine if Aneke had stopped playing in mid April last season because he he didn't want to spoil his chances of getting a new contract elsewhere, and the storm it would have created? Or if Purrington does the same next April?
Thus, all players should have been told to play on until the season actually finished. Which means July. AND all clubs told to pay all players for the extra month, whether they were going to play or not.
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
If you're on 2000 a week, that's 104000 a year.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
Those figures are before you factor in tax, national insurance and pension. By the time you knock that off you are getting a substantially lower figure.
I don't doubt Solly was well rewarded for his time here but I think people have a over-inflated view of what players earn over their careers, I just checked and he is only 30 years of age having only had one career in his life, that of a professional footballer. You would assume like the rest of us that whatever career he goes into next he is going to be starting at the bottom of the ladder, and professional footballer sounds great on paper however I doubt there are many industries where it counts for very much in the real world.
If he was sensible then perhaps he's put some money away or made some wise investments but I imagine he isn't going to be living out the rest of his days on a tropical island somewhere, he's going to have to make a living doing something else.
Correct 100k a year is just enough to get by and no way sets someone up for life at 30. You have to keep on earning the dollar!
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
If you're on 2000 a week, that's 104000 a year.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
On the 'thoughts of Solly not playing' thread there's several posts about a dispute going to the PFA. I've not made it up.
I’ve seen posts about the PFA, but nothing about something being settled for money as you put it. Care to elaborate?
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
If you're on 2000 a week, that's 104000 a year.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
On the 'thoughts of Solly not playing' thread there's several posts about a dispute going to the PFA. I've not made it up.
Earning +100k a year for 10 years when you have another 25 years before you can pull down any degree of pension, and another 32 years before you can fully access a pension does not make you set for life by any stretch of the imagination.
He's earned more in 10 years than most fans will earn in a lifetime.
If he was sensible and made some smart decisions, such as investing, he would not need to have another job again.
must be why a lot of our late 90s/early 00's footballers who were earning similar, if not more money don't need to work anymore as coaches, pundits etc. Oh... wait.
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
If you're on 2000 a week, that's 104000 a year.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
On the 'thoughts of Solly not playing' thread there's several posts about a dispute going to the PFA. I've not made it up.
I’ve seen posts about the PFA, but nothing about something being settled for money as you put it. Care to elaborate?
If Solly has gone to the PFA for a dispute, what else would he be looking for?
The lack of his side to the story other than a few odd journalist leaks implies an NDA being in place no? Especially if Solly feels like Bowyer misrepresented his situation.
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
If you're on 2000 a week, that's 104000 a year.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
On the 'thoughts of Solly not playing' thread there's several posts about a dispute going to the PFA. I've not made it up.
Earning +100k a year for 10 years when you have another 25 years before you can pull down any degree of pension, and another 32 years before you can fully access a pension does not make you set for life by any stretch of the imagination.
He's earned more in 10 years than most fans will earn in a lifetime.
If he was sensible and made some smart decisions, such as investing, he would not need to have another job again.
must be why a lot of our late 90s/early 00's footballers who were earning similar, if not more money don't need to work anymore as coaches, pundits etc. Oh... wait.
The same reason why Billionaires still work. They want to stay busy and earn more money.
To even put him in the same bracket as Taylor is laughable frankly. Chris has a young family and knew that due to previous injuries he’d struggle to get a decent contract elsewhere and wanted to protect that. Taylor just wanted to line his own pockets.
On the other hand Solly has had a long career and is already set-up for life.
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
“Solly is set up for life” - and you know this how exactly? The lad is about 30 years old and spent most of his career on League 1 / low-end Championship money.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
If you're on 2000 a week, that's 104000 a year.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
On the 'thoughts of Solly not playing' thread there's several posts about a dispute going to the PFA. I've not made it up.
I’ve seen posts about the PFA, but nothing about something being settled for money as you put it. Care to elaborate?
If Solly has gone to the PFA for a dispute, what else would he be looking for?
The lack of his side to the story other than a few odd journalist leaks implies an NDA being in place no? Especially if Solly feels like Bowyer misrepresented his situation.
It could be one of a number of reasons as to why he went to the PFA.
You don’t know that it was to do with money or looking for a settlement. You’ve just made it up after putting a few rumours together.
Footballers have many costs which come out of their salary. Car leasing and very expensive car insurance, etc, etc. (Then there's the benefit in kind tax on their agents' fees paid by the club on their behalf I believe). So I doubt many are very well off when they leave the game. Meanwhile professional footballers' pensions used to kick in at age 35. Since 2006 that has been moved to age 55. So these days many footballers outside the rarefied atmosphere of the PL will need to find themselves alternative employment if they wish to get anywhere near the standard of living they have become used to. Not sure what a footballer can expect by way of pension but a payment of £5,850 per year is made into their fund on their behalf. (No cost to the footballer - it comes out of the 4% transfer levy and is consequently largely paid for by PL clubs). So let's say a 15 year career plus some investment performance; they might end up with a pension pot a little over 120k. That might give them, what 5k a year as a pension? As a consequence many will be chucking very large slices of their incomes into AVCs. In short the likes of Chris Solly will not be living the dream when their careers come to an end.
Earning £100k a year, supporting a family and paying a mortgage when you're likely the sole breadwinner doesn't actually get you a lot these days, especially in the south east. Let alone being able to not work after just 10 years of earning that kind of money.
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With medical professionals and scans.
This isnt some two bit sunday league team and a player trying to get out of a game.
You cant fake a serious injury with a professional club what are you on about
Taylor knew his one big payday was round the corner.
They're both as bad as each other, least Taylor was honest about his intentions and took the flack. Solly scurried away and apparently went to the PFA and 'settled' for more money.
Totally agree with all of this. As far as I'm concerned anyone who plays for the club for so long and racks up so many games for us is someone who should be remembered fondly, he certainly is by me. I always felt he was one of those players that had things gone slightly differently for could have played at a much higher level.
I'm not sure anyone really knows what went on other than Solly and a distinct few figures at the club. There is a lot of rumour and speculation to fill the void but I can't see how anyone knows precisely what went on. As others have said contracts are a negotiation and whilst I'm sure he earnt good money whilst playing for us I doubt he earnt figures which guarantee a retirement at 35, he still needed to earn a living and would have gone into contract negotiations with that in mind. I can absolutely see a situation where he has asked for an extra year in order to play on because it's what I would have done, as said before contracts are all about negotiating. Perhaps he went into those negotiations expecting some give and take and was flat out told there wasn't any movement. Who knows.
That was always what I felt was different between Solly and Taylor, everything I have read suggests there was some effort by Solly to work things out and for whatever reason it didn't happen. Perhaps he is to blame for that, perhaps the club is. Perhaps it's a bit of both. Taylor however never had any intention of kicking a ball for us once Covid hit and all he was focused on was chasing his big pay day at Forest regardless of whether it impacted his current employers.
I think you are right in your view that it suited Bowyer to name and shame those who seemingly didn't want to play on, I think he was trying to create a siege mentality and also he would have known he could use it as mitigation if we went down. However if I was Solly I'd be fuming as well at having my name put out like that in public and perhaps that is his grievance.
I find the whole situation so disappointing that a player who deserves to be remembered fondly left under such a cloud, I seem to remember it being mentioned that he had done an interview with the club after he left that explained things but that it was never aired? It's a real shame he's never been able to come out and shed some light on what happened. Normally in situations like this in the absence of any factual information rumour and gossip makes things out to be ten times worse or more dramatic than they actually are.
As for your final sentence, I’d be keen to know where you’ve got that info from. Unless it’s just another one of your assumptions.
Solly is not struggling for money and a sensible person would be set up for life with 10 years of wages in the hundreds of thousands a year.
If he earned 5000 for even one season, that's a quarter of a million pounds.
On the 'thoughts of Solly not playing' thread there's several posts about a dispute going to the PFA. I've not made it up.
Basically he was ignorant and didn't want to know.
I don't doubt Solly was well rewarded for his time here but I think people have a over-inflated view of what players earn over their careers, I just checked and he is only 30 years of age having only had one career in his life, that of a professional footballer. You would assume like the rest of us that whatever career he goes into next he is going to be starting at the bottom of the ladder, and professional footballer sounds great on paper however I doubt there are many industries where it counts for very much in the real world.
If he was sensible then perhaps he's put some money away or made some wise investments but I imagine he isn't going to be living out the rest of his days on a tropical island somewhere, he's going to have to make a living doing something else.
He's earned more in 10 years than most fans will earn in a lifetime.
If he was sensible and made some smart decisions, such as investing, he would not need to have another job again.
I'm sure he has some savings, and hopefully invested some, but for someone with 35 years to retirement he's a long way from never having to work again.
We can all sit here and claim we’d have done better but he’s 30 YO his earning power greatly diminished and has a young family to provide for. If I was him I’d do anything to protect them and I’m sure many would in that position!
Football contracts run until the end of June, not because June is a special month, but because it's there to cover the end of the season. Everything is geared around seasons in football, or half seasons between transfer windows. Imagine if Aneke had stopped playing in mid April last season because he he didn't want to spoil his chances of getting a new contract elsewhere, and the storm it would have created? Or if Purrington does the same next April?
Thus, all players should have been told to play on until the season actually finished. Which means July. AND all clubs told to pay all players for the extra month, whether they were going to play or not.
The lack of his side to the story other than a few odd journalist leaks implies an NDA being in place no? Especially if Solly feels like Bowyer misrepresented his situation.
Not sure what a footballer can expect by way of pension but a payment of £5,850 per year is made into their fund on their behalf. (No cost to the footballer - it comes out of the 4% transfer levy and is consequently largely paid for by PL clubs). So let's say a 15 year career plus some investment performance; they might end up with a pension pot a little over 120k. That might give them, what 5k a year as a pension? As a consequence many will be chucking very large slices of their incomes into AVCs.
In short the likes of Chris Solly will not be living the dream when their careers come to an end.