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Conor Washington - now at Derby (p26)
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He'll be better than Stockley in the hold up number 9 role. You watch0
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Washington has had four and a bit seasons at this level…
First season: 1 in 4.25
Second season: 1 in 3.1
Third season: 1 in 2.5
Last season: 1 in 3.3
This season: 1 in 4.3
That’s good enough for at least double figures every year, occasionally pushing 15-20.
He’s not a non-scoring striker.15 -
Shame he didn't take that glorious chance at the end. Overthought it and gave them a chance to recover0
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golfaddick said:Another non-scoring striker who may run & run but when given a chance to score often misses.
What joy.
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The bonus for us was that he was only on the pitch for 20 minutes.
Nice and fresh for Saturday.3 -
Callumcafc said:Washington has had four and a bit seasons at this level…
First season: 1 in 4.25
Second season: 1 in 3.1
Third season: 1 in 2.5
Last season: 1 in 3.3
This season: 1 in 4.3
That’s good enough for at least double figures every year, occasionally pushing 15-20.
He’s not a non-scoring striker.
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46/2.5 is good enough for 18 goals which is where the pushing 20 came from. In that season, he had 10 goals from 25 appearances.0
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Scorer or not we are a better team with him in it and seem to score a lot more as a team.24
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Callumcafc said:Washington has had four and a bit seasons at this level…
First season: 1 in 4.25
Second season: 1 in 3.1
Third season: 1 in 2.5
Last season: 1 in 3.3
This season: 1 in 4.3
That’s good enough for at least double figures every year, occasionally pushing 15-20.
He’s not a non-scoring striker.
We are currently a top striker away from a promotion winning side . Someone who doesn’t need 3 gilt edged chances to score 1 .
I’d happily swap Stockley and Washington for the Lyle Taylor we had in our last promotion team .
I know they’re all different but you know when there’s an opportunity that you aren’t feeling as confident as you would if a top striker was going through .
Washington and Stockley are decent enough grafters and more than ok for this level but they’re not top drawer , BWP/Kermorgant/ Taylor level with what they bring to the side .5 -
oohaahmortimer said:Callumcafc said:Washington has had four and a bit seasons at this level…
First season: 1 in 4.25
Second season: 1 in 3.1
Third season: 1 in 2.5
Last season: 1 in 3.3
This season: 1 in 4.3
That’s good enough for at least double figures every year, occasionally pushing 15-20.
He’s not a non-scoring striker.
We are currently a top striker away from a promotion winning side . Someone who doesn’t need 3 gilt edged chances to score 1 .
I’d happily swap Stockley and Washington for the Lyle Taylor we had in our last promotion team .
I know they’re all different but you know when there’s an opportunity that you aren’t feeling as confident as you would if a top striker was going through .
Washington and Stockley are decent enough grafters and more than ok for this level but they’re not top drawer , BWP/Kermorgant/ Taylor level with what they bring to the side .
Stockley has 6 open play goals in 17 matches in the league this season which is a goal every 3.5 games and that is likely to improve given how fucking dreadful we were for the first dozen matches.Washington’s goal record for us, however, is not strong if you strip away the penalties - only 8 at 1 in 4.5 games last season, and only 1 goal full stop this season so far…. BUT he has been played out on the wing and mostly as a sub until Jacko took over.Just for context that Taylor was not necessarily the clinical goal machine he is remembered as.2 -
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Heres Hoping Conor can do the bizzo on Saturday!0
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LargeAddick said:Callumcafc said:Washington has had four and a bit seasons at this level…
First season: 1 in 4.25
Second season: 1 in 3.1
Third season: 1 in 2.5
Last season: 1 in 3.3
This season: 1 in 4.3
That’s good enough for at least double figures every year, occasionally pushing 15-20.
He’s not a non-scoring striker.3 -
Redrobo said:LargeAddick said:Callumcafc said:Washington has had four and a bit seasons at this level…
First season: 1 in 4.25
Second season: 1 in 3.1
Third season: 1 in 2.5
Last season: 1 in 3.3
This season: 1 in 4.3
That’s good enough for at least double figures every year, occasionally pushing 15-20.
He’s not a non-scoring striker.1 -
He did well. Italian's know how to defend and 2 players ran back to the goal. First time I've seen Washy touch the ball with left foot and it showed in the connection.
https://youtu.be/axlmql6P7go
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The natural scorers know what they are going to do with the ball before they receive it and have the confidence to execute that. Washington, as with his miss last night against Italy, invariably lacks one of these - he did the hard work in going round the keeper but then succeeded in miskicking the ball and finding the only defender on the line.
And that rather sums up Washington. He does a hell of a lot of good things but the end product is missing. All the time we do not have a viable replacement then he has to be in the starting XI because of what else he brings to the team. The pay off is that, at the age of almost 30 and with a total of 29 league goals in his last six seasons (and half a dozen of those penalties too), he is unlikely to suddenly become prolific.1 -
oohaahmortimer said:Callumcafc said:Washington has had four and a bit seasons at this level…
First season: 1 in 4.25
Second season: 1 in 3.1
Third season: 1 in 2.5
Last season: 1 in 3.3
This season: 1 in 4.3
That’s good enough for at least double figures every year, occasionally pushing 15-20.
He’s not a non-scoring striker.
We are currently a top striker away from a promotion winning side . Someone who doesn’t need 3 gilt edged chances to score 1 .
I’d happily swap Stockley and Washington for the Lyle Taylor we had in our last promotion team .
I know they’re all different but you know when there’s an opportunity that you aren’t feeling as confident as you would if a top striker was going through .
Washington and Stockley are decent enough grafters and more than ok for this level but they’re not top drawer , BWP/Kermorgant/ Taylor level with what they bring to the side .
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Nobody said he was prolific. They said he wasn't non scoring.
Why is it so hard for the negative nancies to see the middle ground? We're not all being overly positive... It's a realistic opinion of his ability based upon his scoring record at this level.
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Garrymanilow said:oohaahmortimer said:Callumcafc said:Washington has had four and a bit seasons at this level…
First season: 1 in 4.25
Second season: 1 in 3.1
Third season: 1 in 2.5
Last season: 1 in 3.3
This season: 1 in 4.3
That’s good enough for at least double figures every year, occasionally pushing 15-20.
He’s not a non-scoring striker.
We are currently a top striker away from a promotion winning side . Someone who doesn’t need 3 gilt edged chances to score 1 .
I’d happily swap Stockley and Washington for the Lyle Taylor we had in our last promotion team .
I know they’re all different but you know when there’s an opportunity that you aren’t feeling as confident as you would if a top striker was going through .
Washington and Stockley are decent enough grafters and more than ok for this level but they’re not top drawer , BWP/Kermorgant/ Taylor level with what they bring to the side .
As you say, this role is key to how we play.3 -
Hopefully didn't leave his shooting boots behind.0
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Exiled_Addick said:oohaahmortimer said:Callumcafc said:Washington has had four and a bit seasons at this level…
First season: 1 in 4.25
Second season: 1 in 3.1
Third season: 1 in 2.5
Last season: 1 in 3.3
This season: 1 in 4.3
That’s good enough for at least double figures every year, occasionally pushing 15-20.
He’s not a non-scoring striker.
We are currently a top striker away from a promotion winning side . Someone who doesn’t need 3 gilt edged chances to score 1 .
I’d happily swap Stockley and Washington for the Lyle Taylor we had in our last promotion team .
I know they’re all different but you know when there’s an opportunity that you aren’t feeling as confident as you would if a top striker was going through .
Washington and Stockley are decent enough grafters and more than ok for this level but they’re not top drawer , BWP/Kermorgant/ Taylor level with what they bring to the side .
Stockley has 6 open play goals in 17 matches in the league this season which is a goal every 3.5 games and that is likely to improve given how fucking dreadful we were for the first dozen matches.Washington’s goal record for us, however, is not strong if you strip away the penalties - only 8 at 1 in 4.5 games last season, and only 1 goal full stop this season so far…. BUT he has been played out on the wing and mostly as a sub until Jacko took over.Just for context that Taylor was not necessarily the clinical goal machine he is remembered as.
Making comparisons, Taylor was a better Stockley, as while he could be a target man, he was also more mobile.0 -
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killerandflash said:Exiled_Addick said:oohaahmortimer said:Callumcafc said:Washington has had four and a bit seasons at this level…
First season: 1 in 4.25
Second season: 1 in 3.1
Third season: 1 in 2.5
Last season: 1 in 3.3
This season: 1 in 4.3
That’s good enough for at least double figures every year, occasionally pushing 15-20.
He’s not a non-scoring striker.
We are currently a top striker away from a promotion winning side . Someone who doesn’t need 3 gilt edged chances to score 1 .
I’d happily swap Stockley and Washington for the Lyle Taylor we had in our last promotion team .
I know they’re all different but you know when there’s an opportunity that you aren’t feeling as confident as you would if a top striker was going through .
Washington and Stockley are decent enough grafters and more than ok for this level but they’re not top drawer , BWP/Kermorgant/ Taylor level with what they bring to the side .
Stockley has 6 open play goals in 17 matches in the league this season which is a goal every 3.5 games and that is likely to improve given how fucking dreadful we were for the first dozen matches.Washington’s goal record for us, however, is not strong if you strip away the penalties - only 8 at 1 in 4.5 games last season, and only 1 goal full stop this season so far…. BUT he has been played out on the wing and mostly as a sub until Jacko took over.Just for context that Taylor was not necessarily the clinical goal machine he is remembered as.
Making comparisons, Taylor was a better Stockley, as while he could be a target man, he was also more mobile.0 -
Dazzler21 said:killerandflash said:Exiled_Addick said:oohaahmortimer said:Callumcafc said:Washington has had four and a bit seasons at this level…
First season: 1 in 4.25
Second season: 1 in 3.1
Third season: 1 in 2.5
Last season: 1 in 3.3
This season: 1 in 4.3
That’s good enough for at least double figures every year, occasionally pushing 15-20.
He’s not a non-scoring striker.
We are currently a top striker away from a promotion winning side . Someone who doesn’t need 3 gilt edged chances to score 1 .
I’d happily swap Stockley and Washington for the Lyle Taylor we had in our last promotion team .
I know they’re all different but you know when there’s an opportunity that you aren’t feeling as confident as you would if a top striker was going through .
Washington and Stockley are decent enough grafters and more than ok for this level but they’re not top drawer , BWP/Kermorgant/ Taylor level with what they bring to the side .
Stockley has 6 open play goals in 17 matches in the league this season which is a goal every 3.5 games and that is likely to improve given how fucking dreadful we were for the first dozen matches.Washington’s goal record for us, however, is not strong if you strip away the penalties - only 8 at 1 in 4.5 games last season, and only 1 goal full stop this season so far…. BUT he has been played out on the wing and mostly as a sub until Jacko took over.Just for context that Taylor was not necessarily the clinical goal machine he is remembered as.
Making comparisons, Taylor was a better Stockley, as while he could be a target man, he was also more mobile.0 -
oohaahmortimer said:Callumcafc said:Washington has had four and a bit seasons at this level…
First season: 1 in 4.25
Second season: 1 in 3.1
Third season: 1 in 2.5
Last season: 1 in 3.3
This season: 1 in 4.3
That’s good enough for at least double figures every year, occasionally pushing 15-20.
He’s not a non-scoring striker.
We are currently a top striker away from a promotion winning side . Someone who doesn’t need 3 gilt edged chances to score 1 .
I’d happily swap Stockley and Washington for the Lyle Taylor we had in our last promotion team .
I know they’re all different but you know when there’s an opportunity that you aren’t feeling as confident as you would if a top striker was going through .
Washington and Stockley are decent enough grafters and more than ok for this level but they’re not top drawer , BWP/Kermorgant/ Taylor level with what they bring to the side .7 -
Conor, and Gilbey, are more important than the goals they score, or don't score.
They bring an energy and contagious enthusiasm that is lacking in their absence.15 -
Exiled_Addick said:oohaahmortimer said:Callumcafc said:Washington has had four and a bit seasons at this level…
First season: 1 in 4.25
Second season: 1 in 3.1
Third season: 1 in 2.5
Last season: 1 in 3.3
This season: 1 in 4.3
That’s good enough for at least double figures every year, occasionally pushing 15-20.
He’s not a non-scoring striker.
We are currently a top striker away from a promotion winning side . Someone who doesn’t need 3 gilt edged chances to score 1 .
I’d happily swap Stockley and Washington for the Lyle Taylor we had in our last promotion team .
I know they’re all different but you know when there’s an opportunity that you aren’t feeling as confident as you would if a top striker was going through .
Washington and Stockley are decent enough grafters and more than ok for this level but they’re not top drawer , BWP/Kermorgant/ Taylor level with what they bring to the side .
Stockley has 6 open play goals in 17 matches in the league this season which is a goal every 3.5 games and that is likely to improve given how fucking dreadful we were for the first dozen matches.Washington’s goal record for us, however, is not strong if you strip away the penalties - only 8 at 1 in 4.5 games last season, and only 1 goal full stop this season so far…. BUT he has been played out on the wing and mostly as a sub until Jacko took over.Just for context that Taylor was not necessarily the clinical goal machine he is remembered as.
I'm with Oohaah, we're a Taylor away from a barnstorming punt for the play=offs0 -
I'm a big fan of CW. We're a much better team with him in it. Watch him and you'll see him contantly running side to side along the opposition's back line. This movement doesn't only make him harder to mark, but he ends up pulling defenders out of position, creating spaces for Stockley, Lee, Leko, etc to exploit, not to say he doesn't chip in with a decent amount of goals himself3
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Cafc43v3r said:Conor, and Gilbey, are more important than the goals they score, or don't score.
They bring an energy and contagious enthusiasm that is lacking in their absence.
Agree with that.
I think Conor will be buzzing against Plymouth as he had a barn storming cameo against Italy and even though Gilbey wasn't as sharp on the ball against Burton his work rate off the ball is good and both fit great into the template of how JJ wants to play.0 -
Once again, the CL curse ffs! This thread was reignited as he came on and ran Bonnuci and Chiellini ragged when on and nearly won NI the game. Why does every update need to turn into a focus of the negative traits of a player?3
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I like Conor, but he does have that knack of finding a way to miss scoring opportunities. Maybe he needs to pretend every shot is a pen!!!! 😂2
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Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:Exiled_Addick said:oohaahmortimer said:Callumcafc said:Washington has had four and a bit seasons at this level…
First season: 1 in 4.25
Second season: 1 in 3.1
Third season: 1 in 2.5
Last season: 1 in 3.3
This season: 1 in 4.3
That’s good enough for at least double figures every year, occasionally pushing 15-20.
He’s not a non-scoring striker.
We are currently a top striker away from a promotion winning side . Someone who doesn’t need 3 gilt edged chances to score 1 .
I’d happily swap Stockley and Washington for the Lyle Taylor we had in our last promotion team .
I know they’re all different but you know when there’s an opportunity that you aren’t feeling as confident as you would if a top striker was going through .
Washington and Stockley are decent enough grafters and more than ok for this level but they’re not top drawer , BWP/Kermorgant/ Taylor level with what they bring to the side .
Stockley has 6 open play goals in 17 matches in the league this season which is a goal every 3.5 games and that is likely to improve given how fucking dreadful we were for the first dozen matches.Washington’s goal record for us, however, is not strong if you strip away the penalties - only 8 at 1 in 4.5 games last season, and only 1 goal full stop this season so far…. BUT he has been played out on the wing and mostly as a sub until Jacko took over.Just for context that Taylor was not necessarily the clinical goal machine he is remembered as.
I'm with Oohaah, we're a Taylor away from a barnstorming punt for the play=offs
Oh, I'm not arguing that Taylor wasn't the better all-round striker - in fact, relative to the level he played at, he was one of the best all-round strikers I've seen play for us as he could do a bit of everything. But oohaah asked for "Someone who doesn’t need 3 gilt edged chances to score 1", but I don't know if it's true to say that Taylor was uber-reliable in front of goal, or if it's fair to say that Stockley is particularly wasteful. Washington definitely does miss a fair number of really good chances, but I think Stockley's goal record is a bit downplayed, tbh, as is the fact his link up play is generally decent. It's not Stockley's fault that for the opening 10 games or so he was just used as a target for hoof-ball. He's not the most technically elegant forward you'll ever see, but he's good enough on the deck that we don't have to play long ball football just to get the best out of him. In fact, his recent goal record, and stats last season, would suggest keeping it on the deck and playing better football helps him score goals.
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