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Papa John's Trophy 21/22: The Group Stage

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  • Charlton have confirmed the game is at The Valley

    I thought that may happen as Villa are an under 21 team 
    Dunno, the club might have that one wrong

    Rules only state that U21 teams have to play away in the Group Stages
  • Charlton have confirmed the game is at The Valley

    I thought that may happen as Villa are an under 21 team 
    Dunno, the club might have that one wrong

    Rules only state that U21 teams have to play away in the Group Stages
    Was the same last year, all U21 sides played away from home in the knockouts.

    One thing is for sure, if we play our kids Villa will murder us.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,154
    edited November 2021
    Charlton have confirmed the game is at The Valley

    I thought that may happen as Villa are an under 21 team 
    Dunno, the club might have that one wrong

    Rules only state that U21 teams have to play away in the Group Stages
    Was the same last year, all U21 sides played away from home in the knockouts.

    One thing is for sure, if we play our kids Villa will murder us.
    Was that because they all got drawn away though?

    Although even Aston Villa seem to think it'll be at the Valley as well

    https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/november/13/aston-villa-to-face-in-efl-trophy/

    @Sage has just tweeted confirming that Aston Villa v Man City is the same midweek so yeah - Sadly wont be at Villa Park this one.
  • Play Leko in this game, he'll be up for it  :D
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,772
    Charlton have confirmed the game is at The Valley

    I thought that may happen as Villa are an under 21 team 
    How stupid is this competition? Of course it isn’t worth Villa’s time and effort opening Villa Park for this nonsense.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,605
    Aston Villa game will be played on 30th November 7pm kick-off
    Prices £5 adults
    £1 over 65
    £1 under 21
    Tickets not yet on sale

    I found the details on the Aston Villa website.
    https://tickets.avfc.co.uk/en-GB/categories/away-tickets
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,605
    Classic own goal in the Sheff Wed v Hartlepool match.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R39kYctJ1Y0
  • Would it be cheaper to play home games in this cup at welling or dartford?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,772
    edited December 2021
    Would it be cheaper to play home games in this cup at welling or dartford?
    Not allowed. Pitch quality would be an issue with moving games from league stadia, especially for the U21 teams this is now built around.

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  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,605

     Papa John's prize money 21/22 season.

    Group Stage - £10,000 for a win, £5,000 for a draw

    · Round Two - £20,000 for a win

    · Round Three - £40,000 for a win

    · Quarter Final - £50,000 for a win

    · Runner-up - £50,000

  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,900
    Charlton have confirmed the game is at The Valley

    I thought that may happen as Villa are an under 21 team 
    Dunno, the club might have that one wrong

    Rules only state that U21 teams have to play away in the Group Stages
    Was the same last year, all U21 sides played away from home in the knockouts.

    One thing is for sure, if we play our kids Villa will murder us.
    Was that because they all got drawn away though?

    Although even Aston Villa seem to think it'll be at the Valley as well

    https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/november/13/aston-villa-to-face-in-efl-trophy/

    @Sage has just tweeted confirming that Aston Villa v Man City is the same midweek so yeah - Sadly wont be at Villa Park this one.
    Brighton U21 hosted Newport at the Amex & Everton U21 hosted Fleetwood at Goodison in the second round of the 2019/20 version of the competition.

    In 2018/19, Newcastle U21 hosted Macclesfield and Chelsea U21 hosted Wimbledon at the same knockout stage. Chelsea U21 also played Peterborough at Stamford Bridge in the third round.

    In 2017/18, we played away at Swansea U21 in round 2 and Chelsea U21 hosted Oxford in the quarter final round.

    In 2016/17, Wolves U21 hosted Sunderland in round 2, Southampton U21 vs Reading U21 was held at St Marys, Norwich U21 hosted Swansea U21 at Carrow Road and Swansea U21 hosted Coventry in round 3.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,834
    When is the next round draw ?
  • Charlton have confirmed the game is at The Valley

    I thought that may happen as Villa are an under 21 team 
    Dunno, the club might have that one wrong

    Rules only state that U21 teams have to play away in the Group Stages
    Was the same last year, all U21 sides played away from home in the knockouts.

    One thing is for sure, if we play our kids Villa will murder us.
    Was that because they all got drawn away though?

    Although even Aston Villa seem to think it'll be at the Valley as well

    https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/november/13/aston-villa-to-face-in-efl-trophy/

    @Sage has just tweeted confirming that Aston Villa v Man City is the same midweek so yeah - Sadly wont be at Villa Park this one.
    Brighton U21 hosted Newport at the Amex & Everton U21 hosted Fleetwood at Goodison in the second round of the 2019/20 version of the competition.

    In 2018/19, Newcastle U21 hosted Macclesfield and Chelsea U21 hosted Wimbledon at the same knockout stage. Chelsea U21 also played Peterborough at Stamford Bridge in the third round.

    In 2017/18, we played away at Swansea U21 in round 2 and Chelsea U21 hosted Oxford in the quarter final round.

    In 2016/17, Wolves U21 hosted Sunderland in round 2, Southampton U21 vs Reading U21 was held at St Marys, Norwich U21 hosted Swansea U21 at Carrow Road and Swansea U21 hosted Coventry in round 3.
    Pretty sure they changed the rules for the 20/21 tournament though.
  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,735
    When is the next round draw ?  Saturday during Sky lunch time Championship game.
  • We are third favourites behind Rotherham and Wigan 

    8/1
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,772
    edited December 2021
    Would it be cheaper to play home games in this cup at welling or dartford?
    Not allowed. Pitch quality would be an issue with moving games from league stadia, especially for the U21 teams this is now built around.
    So in the FA Cup we can't really go to places like Gateshead who are on the same level as Dartford , especially  if we play anyone under 21 ??
    You’re missing the point. This is all about what suits the PL clubs. It has nothing to do with us.
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,976
    Would it be cheaper to play home games in this cup at welling or dartford?
    Not allowed. Pitch quality would be an issue with moving games from league stadia, especially for the U21 teams this is now built around.
    So in the FA Cup we can't really go to places like Gateshead who are on the same level as Dartford , especially  if we play anyone under 21 ??
    You’re missing the point. This is all about what suits the PL clubs. It has nothing to do with us.
    This 100%
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,900

  • When is the draw?

    It will take place on Saturday, December 4. It will be conducted following the conclusion of the Coventry City versus West Bromwich Albion Championship game.

    That kicks off at 12.30pm so the draw is likely to get underway from 2.30pm onwards from the Coventry Building Society Arena.

    Former Coventry striker Jay Bothroyd will be undertaking draw duties alongside ex-England man Kevin Phillips. Former Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday and Southampton midfielder David Prutton will be on presenting duties.

    Come on Jay, give us a nice easy tie


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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,900
    edited December 2021
    If we make it through this next round and into the quarter-finals, we can draw any of the other seven teams (four north or three south) as the draw is no longer regionalised from the last eight onwards.
  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 694
    Let's have these u21 teams in the next 2 rounds. I don't want us to be a first in a final v an u21 side. It will happen eventually but please not to us.
  • Let's hope that we get Arsenal or Chelsea and lose. The sooner we get knocked out of this nonsense, the better. It's embarrassing.
  • A weird feeling that we have TWO cup draws to look forward to, and games in January...
  • Draw coming up shortly now that Coventry v West Brom has finished.
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,298
    Let's hope that we get Arsenal or Chelsea and lose. The sooner we get knocked out of this nonsense, the better. It's embarrassing.
    Really can't understand the mentality of wanting to lose. These games are tremendous experience for likes of Burstow, Bakrin, Elerwere and Harkness. Also helps keep some of first team squad like Morgan, Kirk, Davison and Watson reasonably sharp. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,154
    edited December 2021
    Crewe v Rotherham
    Hartlepool v Bolton
    Tranmere / Harrogate v Carlisle
    Oldham v Wigan
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,154
    edited December 2021
    Arsenal v Chelsea
    Cambridge v Exeter / Portsmouth
    Charlton v Milton Keynes
    Sutton v Colchester
  • Charwill
    Charwill Posts: 175
    mk dons at home!!
  • Dull draw