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Match Thread: Plymouth Argyle vs Charlton Athletic | Saturday 18th December 2021

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  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957
    Never deserved to concede that but .....;

    We'd taken our foot off the gas the last 10 minutes, lost all intensity, penetration and creativity.

    Need to step up.
  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,245
    Surprised we didn’t try to call the game off with 3 players out with covid, we are missing Washington & Famewo as expected here.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,682
    45 minutes to turn this around and Plymouth ain't nothing special. 
    Keep the faith. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    Leuth said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Great finish. 

    Souaré made no effort to support the defence like Purrington would 
    Harsh tbh, wasn't remotely his fault
    It doesn't matter if the goal was his fault in any way he was alongside the play when possession turned over and made no effort to get back and help his team mates out. 

    Purrington woulf have bust a gut had the players been in opposite positions.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,984
    DJ, Leko, Gilbey and Lee have gears to go up. Not good enough.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,178
    edited December 2021
    Doesn’t matter who you are or who you’re playing, if an opponent is dead set in getting 8 or 9 men behind the ball and defending very deep, it is hard to break down. You have to take your chance in a game like this, I.e. the header from Stockley, but we haven’t got near their goal often enough. When you don’t do that you’re always vulnerable to a sucker punch. 

    Leko hasn’t provided the same spark as Connor, but the space isn’t there to run into. Midfield has been flat. Lee has been trying to make things happen, but Gilbey and DJ have been sloppy in possession and Soare is not as comfortable in that wing back role as Purrington. 

    CM has to do better with his save imo, it wasn’t a hard stop and he’s pushed it right back out into the danger zone. It was a bit fortunate that the shot made it through the crowd though. 

    Still winnable from here but need a reaction second half. Maybe Kirk on for Soare. Would be a bold sub but we need a bit more creativity out there. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    Dazzler21 said:
    We are massively missing Famewo and Washington.
    Massively is a stretch. We aren't playing bad but we need to up the tempo which is tough when Plymouth just sit 
    Not really, Leko has pace but takes too long to read the ball and get going. His trickery is predictable too. 

    Purrington owns the LWB position and having him as CB is affecting the balance of our side.


  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,415
    edited December 2021
    Doesn’t matter who you are or who you’re playing, if an opponent is dead set in getting 8 or 9 men behind the ball and defending very deep, it is hard to break down. You have to take your chance in a game like this, I.e. the header from Stockley, but we haven’t got near their goal often enough. When you djj on my do that your always vulnerable to a sucker punch. 

    Leko hasn’t provided the same spark as Connor, but the space isn’t there to run into. Midfield has been flat. Lee has been trying to make things happen, but Gilbey and DJ have been sloppy in possession and Soare is not as comfortable in that wing back role as Purrington. 

    CM has to do better with his save imo, it wasn’t a hard stop and he’s pushed it right back out into the danger zone. It was a bit fortunate that the shot made it through the crowd though. 

    Still winnable from here but need a reaction second half. Maybe Kirk on for Soare. Would be a bold sub but we need a bit more creativity out there. 
    Only thing Id disagree with is the Leko / Conor comparison.

    Its not his game so its difficult to judge - Yet Conor even if he doesnt have the space will make live uncomfortable for defenders - Pushing off the ball within the limits and ensuring they dont have time to do anything with the ball.

    Results in the opposition rushing when playing out from the back, and will often result in us winning the ball back quickly.

    Neither of Conor's goals against Cambridge were created out of absolutely no space in the box.
  • Did Plymouth change formation about 25/30 minutes in? Hard to tell on stream but looked like they adjusted, had 3 pushed up really far and started getting overloads in the middle.
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  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881
    Game not over - conditions not easy. Charlton can score if they up the pace. Really missing Washington. In the mid / long term, Thomas Sandgaard needs to consider getting another quality striker in to cover injuries, suspensions etc if he wants promotion for Charlton.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    Sloppy. Some poor passing and decision-making out there. Haven't threatened much other than set pieces. They looked bereft of confidence and there for the taking so quite disappointed by that.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Surprised we didn’t try to call the game off with 3 players out with covid, we are missing Washington & Famewo as expected here.
    Because you can't of you have 14 players available........ 
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,483
    Not looking forward to going back to the lousy commentary.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,635
    And you know we dont win once we let in the first goal.
    Last time we came from behind to win was when Jacko was Caretaker last time  - beat Bristol Rovers 3-2 after going 2-0 down. 

    10 matches (not including today)
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,582
    edited December 2021
    Still see us getting something out of this game, and 3 points to take back home, they are so fortunate to get that very soft goal off the post, and against the run of play, the only criticism i can say is we are playing not to our capabilities and look tired, def missing Washington and Famewo..
    Come on Jacko, now is the time to get this game back on the rails, we are more than capable  B)
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,702
    Dazzler21 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    We are massively missing Famewo and Washington.
    Massively is a stretch. We aren't playing bad but we need to up the tempo which is tough when Plymouth just sit 
    Not really, Leko has pace but takes too long to read the ball and get going. His trickery is predictable too. 

    Purrington owns the LWB position and having him as CB is affecting the balance of our side.


    Would have Purrington back at LWB, not disputing that. Point is we have had 1 very clear chance and a couple of half chances and overall been good. Just lapsed on concentration on that goal.

    Souare for me is the weak link.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    And you know we dont win once we let in the first goal.
    Last time we came from behind to win was when Jacko was Caretaker last time  - beat Bristol Rovers 3-2 after going 2-0 down. 

    10 matches (not including today)
    Please stop revelling in our misery.
  • Think both our wingbacks look off it today, too sloppy from DJ especially. A real shame to concede that late on, still 45 to go.. 
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,788
    I love the upbeats. They’re just marvelous.
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  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,603
    Jackson full time manager For 45 minutes before being charltonised…. Can we still stay up…. 
  • Did Plymouth change formation about 25/30 minutes in? Hard to tell on stream but looked like they adjusted, had 3 pushed up really far and started getting overloads in the middle.
    I’ll tell you what happened I woke up and started watching …. Just like the poxy Ashes this morning … it’s me ffs 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,859
    I love the upbeats. They’re just marvelous.
    Are they playing the second half?
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,811
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Thomas said it live on TV, I assume he knows.... 
    What he explained the roles and responsibilities did he?

    stonemuse said:
    He said that Ged was going to be focussed solely on the academy and made it sound like a demotion.

    He also explained that his son was going to be taking over the role Ged previously had in relation to recruitment but more focussing on buying young talent who could come good. The new Driesen sprang immediately to mind although obviously hope that’s not close to being the case.

    sounded very begrudging about offering jacko the contract, hope he gets a bit happier 
  • Thought we did well, could have pushed forward on the wings a bit better. Certainly the better side. Frustrating!
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,635
    Told you.

    Dont take your chances or score when on top you'll pay.
    Seriously bored of you now Golfie... You'll mock saying truth hurts or some bollocks - But you solely chirping up when things go shit are just tiresome now
    Read previous posts to mine- I'm not the only one.

    But yes.....truth hurts.

    And see my post of a minute ago. We are notorious for not being able to win after going behind, so it's no surprise I say what I do. 

    It was over 30 games last time (League 1 into Championship & back again) until we managed a Golfie.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    Well it's just all very disappointing...
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,002
    Here come the Addicks for the second 45... COME ON YOUUU REDSSS!
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,415
    edited December 2021
    Told you.

    Dont take your chances or score when on top you'll pay.
    Seriously bored of you now Golfie... You'll mock saying truth hurts or some bollocks - But you solely chirping up when things go shit are just tiresome now
    Read previous posts to mine- I'm not the only one.

    But yes.....truth hurts.

    And see my post of a minute ago. We are notorious for not being able to win after going behind, so it's no surprise I say what I do. 

    It was over 30 games last time (League 1 into Championship & back again) until we managed a Golfie.
    No you are the only one...

    The majority of posters can watch the game and offer both criticism and praise

    Ironically I rarely hear you opening your trap when your wrong - You just hide away until you can jerk one out again screaming... "I was right, I was right"
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,550
    We're the better side but DJ and Soare not at the races with no direct replacement. 
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