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2022 January transfer window thread - Non Charlton, other transfers (D Day p52)
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How about utilising more academy players into the team. As a club the only way we can get someone of value is to produce them ourselves. To try and find a bit of a pathway, we have to accept we might lose a game by trying to do it.
Sometimes we might be a little bit weaker by trying to do it but in the long term we’ll be stronger5 -
You have all misinterpreted it. Experienced loans doesn't correlate to age. It means their Experienced in loans.addick1956 said:
For experienced read past it or one foot in the grave.SELR_addicks said:
Learned nothing from Arter it seems then. Experienced loanees on the whole dont work out.
So Lucas Piazon, Kennedy or Ethan Ampudu type or any Chelsea player currently out on loan.1 -
Experience for a loan signing isn't absolutely necessary, the player just needs to be decent.
2 of our best loan signings in recent years were Gallagher (no experience) and Bielik (very little). Alex Song didn't have a lot of experience when he came to us, but he was also good. I don't think many were looking at Famewo's few games with Luton and Grimsby and thinking 'yes what a signing' when he arrived.4 -
A couple of ideas who might be available . They are not recommendations .
Portsmouth seem to want to offload Marquis .
Doncaster Rovers would be interested in re-signing John Marquis from Portsmouth - The 72
A clickbait site suggesting five names . Cole Stockton Morecombe , Mikael Mandron Crewe , Tom Eaves Hull , Matty Stevens Forest Green Rovers and Dom Telford Newport .
Charlton Athletic comment: 5 strikers the Addicks should look at this month - The 72
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I suppose we need to be realistic but none of those names have me jumping for joy. We’ve fallen a very long way.Richard J said:A couple of ideas who might be available . They are not recommendations .
Portsmouth seem to want to offload Marquis .
Doncaster Rovers would be interested in re-signing John Marquis from Portsmouth - The 72
A clickbait site suggesting five names . Cole Stockton Morecombe , Mikael Mandron Crewe , Tom Eaves Hull , Matty Stevens Forest Green Rovers and Dom Telford Newport .
Charlton Athletic comment: 5 strikers the Addicks should look at this month - The 720 -
I notice Jay Dasilva doesn't feature much for Bristol City.
He would be perfect for a 5 3 2 set up.8 -
Loads of clubs would take Watson or Matthews on loan, location is the issue with the former, can he be arsed with the latter.Lincsaddick said:we need at a minimum .. 1 central defender, 1 right wing back, 1 extra striker .. try to send Davison, Morgan and Kirk out on loan and (somehow) offload, Watson and Matthews0 -
This. Have players like burstow on the bench ahead of Davison so that he has a bit of experience ready for next season.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
There's no way we're going down, there are plenty more teams worse than us.Stewart said:Don’t like this not going down stance that people have.Two years ago people where saying “we aren’t going down because we have Jonny Williams in our team”.With only 1 good forward (who currently has a niggle) Charlton can go down.
I think we need to look at getting a head start on next season, not overly keen on wasting time with loans unless they're of a decent age and with a view to a permanent deal in the summer.
Signing players like Arter, Gunter or Watson who've already been at the top level and have zero motivation to do anything in league one other than collect a wage are not for me. I'd rather we focused on players who want to progress with us.0 -
Who? There is still a massive gap between the U18s and first team. It's an issue we are either going to have to address with signing "projects" or wait.shirty5 said:How about utilising more academy players into the team. As a club the only way we can get someone of value is to produce them ourselves. To try and find a bit of a pathway, we have to accept we might lose a game by trying to do it.
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What has happened to Aaron Henry? A couple of years ago he was touted as the next big thing from our academy but we hardly hear a thing about him these days. I know he's still only 18 but has he had any injuries which have set him back or has he simply just not progressed as expected?Cafc43v3r said:
Who? There is still a massive gap between the U18s and first team. It's an issue we are either going to have to address with signing "projects" or wait.shirty5 said:How about utilising more academy players into the team. As a club the only way we can get someone of value is to produce them ourselves. To try and find a bit of a pathway, we have to accept we might lose a game by trying to do it.
Sometimes we might be a little bit weaker by trying to do it but in the long term we’ll be stronger
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How about Elewere and Burstow!Cafc43v3r said:
Who? There is still a massive gap between the U18s and first team. It's an issue we are either going to have to address with signing "projects" or wait.shirty5 said:How about utilising more academy players into the team. As a club the only way we can get someone of value is to produce them ourselves. To try and find a bit of a pathway, we have to accept we might lose a game by trying to do it.
Sometimes we might be a little bit weaker by trying to do it but in the long term we’ll be stronger0 -
Keneth Zohore could be worth bringing in on loan with a view to signing. Out of favour big time at West Brom and did not do a lot on loan at Millwall. Must be 6’3” or close and left footed. Needs to play some games at 27. From Denmark by the way 😉1
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There is a massive risk of over playing 18 year olds, maybe come April they could get more minutes. It's the lack of 19-21s that's the big issue.shirty5 said:
How about Elewere and Burstow!Cafc43v3r said:
Who? There is still a massive gap between the U18s and first team. It's an issue we are either going to have to address with signing "projects" or wait.shirty5 said:How about utilising more academy players into the team. As a club the only way we can get someone of value is to produce them ourselves. To try and find a bit of a pathway, we have to accept we might lose a game by trying to do it.
Sometimes we might be a little bit weaker by trying to do it but in the long term we’ll be stronger1 -
Didn’t do Bowyer any harmCafc43v3r said:
There is a massive risk of over playing 18 year olds, maybe come April they could get more minutes. It's the lack of 19-21s that's the big issue.shirty5 said:
How about Elewere and Burstow!Cafc43v3r said:
Who? There is still a massive gap between the U18s and first team. It's an issue we are either going to have to address with signing "projects" or wait.shirty5 said:How about utilising more academy players into the team. As a club the only way we can get someone of value is to produce them ourselves. To try and find a bit of a pathway, we have to accept we might lose a game by trying to do it.
Sometimes we might be a little bit weaker by trying to do it but in the long term we’ll be stronger0 -
No chance, he must be on about 25k a week.Redrobo said:Keneth Zohore could be worth bringing in on loan with a view to signing. Out of favour big time at West Brom and did not do a lot on loan at Millwall. Must be 6’3” or close and left footed. Needs to play some games at 27. From Denmark by the way 😉
Obviously he won't get that in his next contract, but i doubt he's going to cut to 5k in league one.0 -
Nor Gomez but they were good enough. How is it beneficial to either the player or club to simply bring a youngster through for the sake of it? Cafc43v3r is right, the U18s seemed to be strong but the U23s don’t seem to have much.shirty5 said:
Didn’t do Bowyer any harmCafc43v3r said:
There is a massive risk of over playing 18 year olds, maybe come April they could get more minutes. It's the lack of 19-21s that's the big issue.shirty5 said:
How about Elewere and Burstow!Cafc43v3r said:
Who? There is still a massive gap between the U18s and first team. It's an issue we are either going to have to address with signing "projects" or wait.shirty5 said:How about utilising more academy players into the team. As a club the only way we can get someone of value is to produce them ourselves. To try and find a bit of a pathway, we have to accept we might lose a game by trying to do it.
Sometimes we might be a little bit weaker by trying to do it but in the long term we’ll be stronger0 -
Then how do to they get the experience then? If the season is going nowhere as it stands at present, then more games given to the ones who the staff believe they can kick on to the next level is beneficial for all concerned.cafcfan1990 said:
Nor Gomez but they were good enough. How is it beneficial to either the player or club to simply bring a youngster through for the sake of it? Cafc43v3r is right, the U18s seemed to be strong but the U23s don’t seem to have much.shirty5 said:
Didn’t do Bowyer any harmCafc43v3r said:
There is a massive risk of over playing 18 year olds, maybe come April they could get more minutes. It's the lack of 19-21s that's the big issue.shirty5 said:
How about Elewere and Burstow!Cafc43v3r said:
Who? There is still a massive gap between the U18s and first team. It's an issue we are either going to have to address with signing "projects" or wait.shirty5 said:How about utilising more academy players into the team. As a club the only way we can get someone of value is to produce them ourselves. To try and find a bit of a pathway, we have to accept we might lose a game by trying to do it.
Sometimes we might be a little bit weaker by trying to do it but in the long term we’ll be stronger
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But they have to be good enough. We’re 9 points ahead of the relegation places, 3/4 defeats on the spin and we’re looking worryingly below us again.shirty5 said:
Then how do to they get the experience then? If the season is going nowhere as it stands at present, then more games given to the ones who feel that kick on to the next level is beneficial for all concerned.cafcfan1990 said:
Nor Gomez but they were good enough. How is it beneficial to either the player or club to simply bring a youngster through for the sake of it? Cafc43v3r is right, the U18s seemed to be strong but the U23s don’t seem to have much.shirty5 said:
Didn’t do Bowyer any harmCafc43v3r said:
There is a massive risk of over playing 18 year olds, maybe come April they could get more minutes. It's the lack of 19-21s that's the big issue.shirty5 said:
How about Elewere and Burstow!Cafc43v3r said:
Who? There is still a massive gap between the U18s and first team. It's an issue we are either going to have to address with signing "projects" or wait.shirty5 said:How about utilising more academy players into the team. As a club the only way we can get someone of value is to produce them ourselves. To try and find a bit of a pathway, we have to accept we might lose a game by trying to do it.
Sometimes we might be a little bit weaker by trying to do it but in the long term we’ll be strongerWho would you drop for Deji and Burstow?0 -
They are good enough but it’s all about opinions isn’t it.cafcfan1990 said:
But they have to be good enough. We’re 9 points ahead of the relegation places, 3/4 defeats on the spin and we’re looking worryingly below us again.shirty5 said:
Then how do to they get the experience then? If the season is going nowhere as it stands at present, then more games given to the ones who feel that kick on to the next level is beneficial for all concerned.cafcfan1990 said:
Nor Gomez but they were good enough. How is it beneficial to either the player or club to simply bring a youngster through for the sake of it? Cafc43v3r is right, the U18s seemed to be strong but the U23s don’t seem to have much.shirty5 said:
Didn’t do Bowyer any harmCafc43v3r said:
There is a massive risk of over playing 18 year olds, maybe come April they could get more minutes. It's the lack of 19-21s that's the big issue.shirty5 said:
How about Elewere and Burstow!Cafc43v3r said:
Who? There is still a massive gap between the U18s and first team. It's an issue we are either going to have to address with signing "projects" or wait.shirty5 said:How about utilising more academy players into the team. As a club the only way we can get someone of value is to produce them ourselves. To try and find a bit of a pathway, we have to accept we might lose a game by trying to do it.
Sometimes we might be a little bit weaker by trying to do it but in the long term we’ll be strongerWho would you drop for Deji and Burstow?
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Who are? I like both of the two mentioned but who do you drop for them?shirty5 said:
They are good enough but it’s all about opinions isn’t it.cafcfan1990 said:
But they have to be good enough. We’re 9 points ahead of the relegation places, 3/4 defeats on the spin and we’re looking worryingly below us again.shirty5 said:
Then how do to they get the experience then? If the season is going nowhere as it stands at present, then more games given to the ones who feel that kick on to the next level is beneficial for all concerned.cafcfan1990 said:
Nor Gomez but they were good enough. How is it beneficial to either the player or club to simply bring a youngster through for the sake of it? Cafc43v3r is right, the U18s seemed to be strong but the U23s don’t seem to have much.shirty5 said:
Didn’t do Bowyer any harmCafc43v3r said:
There is a massive risk of over playing 18 year olds, maybe come April they could get more minutes. It's the lack of 19-21s that's the big issue.shirty5 said:
How about Elewere and Burstow!Cafc43v3r said:
Who? There is still a massive gap between the U18s and first team. It's an issue we are either going to have to address with signing "projects" or wait.shirty5 said:How about utilising more academy players into the team. As a club the only way we can get someone of value is to produce them ourselves. To try and find a bit of a pathway, we have to accept we might lose a game by trying to do it.
Sometimes we might be a little bit weaker by trying to do it but in the long term we’ll be strongerWho would you drop for Deji and Burstow?0 - Sponsored links:
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I would never suggest he would. But West Brom are going to have to pay him for the next two years unless someone wants him. The best way to attract interest is by having him playing and scoring goals so they may well be prepared to pay a good part of his wages. When it comes to loans of experienced players it is normally to help get them fit or help get rid.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
No chance, he must be on about 25k a week.Redrobo said:Keneth Zohore could be worth bringing in on loan with a view to signing. Out of favour big time at West Brom and did not do a lot on loan at Millwall. Must be 6’3” or close and left footed. Needs to play some games at 27. From Denmark by the way 😉
Obviously he won't get that in his next contract, but i doubt he's going to cut to 5k in league one.2 -
The way I see it now is that we need signings that are players that could contribute next season and we need to assess the players who are out of contract to see if they are worth retaining . Last January we brought in Liam Millar who clearly wouldn't sign on for this season . I wouldn't want that type of loan again .
Someone like Tom Eaves or John Marquis on loan until the end of their contract might be attractive as effectively it would be a six month trial to strikers who are proven at this level for next season .4 -
Not Charlton related really, but Joe Gomez has to leave Liverpool now surely? Matip out with COVID and they're playing Konate alongside VVD, so he's 4th choice centre back now. He would walk into most starting XI's in Europe (providing he's fit)4
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I think we need one investment who plays up front and another investment who can play in a creative midfield role, although the investment we have called JFC could be back soon.0
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It didn't harm Bowyer nor Rooney or Cesc either. It has harmed dozens, hundreds even, of players. Very few players are first team regulars at 18 for a reason. Most of the current England squad weren't so it doesn't reflect on their future potential.shirty5 said:
They are good enough but it’s all about opinions isn’t it.cafcfan1990 said:
But they have to be good enough. We’re 9 points ahead of the relegation places, 3/4 defeats on the spin and we’re looking worryingly below us again.shirty5 said:
Then how do to they get the experience then? If the season is going nowhere as it stands at present, then more games given to the ones who feel that kick on to the next level is beneficial for all concerned.cafcfan1990 said:
Nor Gomez but they were good enough. How is it beneficial to either the player or club to simply bring a youngster through for the sake of it? Cafc43v3r is right, the U18s seemed to be strong but the U23s don’t seem to have much.shirty5 said:
Didn’t do Bowyer any harmCafc43v3r said:
There is a massive risk of over playing 18 year olds, maybe come April they could get more minutes. It's the lack of 19-21s that's the big issue.shirty5 said:
How about Elewere and Burstow!Cafc43v3r said:
Who? There is still a massive gap between the U18s and first team. It's an issue we are either going to have to address with signing "projects" or wait.shirty5 said:How about utilising more academy players into the team. As a club the only way we can get someone of value is to produce them ourselves. To try and find a bit of a pathway, we have to accept we might lose a game by trying to do it.
Sometimes we might be a little bit weaker by trying to do it but in the long term we’ll be strongerWho would you drop for Deji and Burstow?
If Jackson thought they a were good enough and ready they would be involved more. Lurker and Brownie were giving Adkins pelters on CATV yesterday for playing Deji.0 -
Chuks on as a 67th minute sub today & scored in the 75th.....3
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someone would first have to get the ball to him which yesterday would not have happened.Fanny Fanackapan said:Chuks on as a 67th minute sub today & scored in the 75th.....0 -
We'll never know but he was a player who could do far more than merely score goals....lancashire lad said:
someone would first have to get the ball to him which yesterday would not have happened.Fanny Fanackapan said:Chuks on as a 67th minute sub today & scored in the 75th.....
I, for one, would have him back in a flash to add a different dimension for our up front issue.11 -
seth plum said:Josh Parker has unfinished business.
Is Josh going to be on another episode of Come Dine with me ?1 -
I would hope that the younger players TS mentioned are some that have potential to be playing this season and/or next. The likes of DJ whom we picked up when his club needed the money but could come straight in and play, rather than the likes of Clayden who were bought in for U23's and more of a punt.
We do need to finish this season reasonably strongly for three reasons; firstly players in the summer would see that we have a chance of competing and hence it would give us an advantage of sorts in that window; secondly because JJ has a renewal at the end of the season based on finishing position I believe I read and finally because there is almost half the season left and it will be very boring if we play poorly for many of them and put people off renewing tickets.8
