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Name change for a country.

seth plum
seth plum Posts: 53,448
edited February 2022 in Not Sports Related
The place we have hitherto called Turkey is officially changing it’s name to (I don’t know how to put an umlaut on the ‘u’) Turkiye.
It is now a three syllable pronunciation  “tur-kay-ah”.
One reason given (well two of them actually) is to lessen the association with the bird, and also something being a ‘turkey’ being a dud.
The football connection is we once played some ‘friendlies’ over in Turkiye.
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    I thought it was always "Turkiye" internally but they used "Turkey" externally.

    Now they want to use "Turkiye" externally. 
  • Not an uncommon phenomena, but perhaps with more robust reasons than similarity to a Christmas dinner..

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/country-names/country-name-changes-in-hmg-use-1919-to-2020
  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-60337147

    As "Turkey" annoys Erdogan, that's a tempting reason to continue to use it...It'll be interesting whether this is something which the people agree with.
  • Fry's are going to be well pissed off.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,641
    Argh......don't get me started.

    The latest is Kiev. Since all this trouble with Russia the Ukrainians want to go back & call it Kyiv.

    The capital of Turkey was Constantinople it's now Istanbul. (Great song about it btw)

    Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe.

    You get the gist.........
  • Jonniesta
    Jonniesta Posts: 1,153

    The latest is Kiev. Since all this trouble with Russia the Ukrainians want to go back & call it Kyiv.
    That's because people think they're chicken
  • Having dealt with this multiple times, I wonder what the point is. 

    It’s one thing to completely rename a country (Burma - Myanmar) but demanding other countries and languages use your local version seems petty. Anyone for Suomi?
  • The Polish have every right to be upset that their capital city Warszawa in English is easily confused with Walsall a dull town near Birmingham!
  • Argh......don't get me started.

    The latest is Kiev. Since all this trouble with Russia the Ukrainians want to go back & call it Kyiv.

    The capital of Turkey was Constantinople it's now Istanbul. (Great song about it btw)

    Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe.

    You get the gist.........
    Too right, Golfie. Bloody foreigners. None of that nonsense here in Englaland.
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  • Argh......don't get me started.

    The latest is Kiev. Since all this trouble with Russia the Ukrainians want to go back & call it Kyiv.

    The capital of Turkey was Constantinople it's now Istanbul. (Great song about it btw)

    Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe.

    You get the gist.........
    Too right, Golfie. Bloody foreigners. None of that nonsense here in Englaland.
    Kazakhstan changed the capital from Almaty to Astana. Didn't know until the other day they have renamed Astana to Nursultan.

    The UK changed to use the more politically/historically correct names form major cities in India. 

    In South Africa they are reverting Tshwane, the named in a local language

    And I think some countries (Germany) still use Peking instead of Beijing

    As Golfie says, you get the gist
  • Argh......don't get me started.

    The latest is Kiev. Since all this trouble with Russia the Ukrainians want to go back & call it Kyiv.

    The capital of Turkey was Constantinople it's now Istanbul. (Great song about it btw)

    Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe.

    You get the gist.........
    It will always be Byzantium for the purists (like me).
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,435
    Argh......don't get me started.

    The latest is Kiev. Since all this trouble with Russia the Ukrainians want to go back & call it Kyiv.

    The capital of Turkey was Constantinople it's now Istanbul. (Great song about it btw)

    Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe.

    You get the gist.........
    I remember during the Euros last year one of the commentators saying such and such a player played for Di-nar-mow Keev. Back in my day that was Die-ner-mow Key-ev! 
  • Argh......don't get me started.

    The latest is Kiev. Since all this trouble with Russia the Ukrainians want to go back & call it Kyiv.

    The capital of Turkey was Constantinople it's now Istanbul. (Great song about it btw)

    Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe.

    You get the gist.........
    Wimbledon are now afc Wimbledon............I have now ducked for cover
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    Singer FC

    Thames Ironworks FC

    Small Heath Alliance FC

    Newton Heath Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway FC

    Glad we don't have any of the that name changing in our game.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    Not an uncommon phenomena, but perhaps with more robust reasons than similarity to a Christmas dinner..

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/country-names/country-name-changes-in-hmg-use-1919-to-2020
    Great list, love stuff like this.


    Great Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya became simply Libya

    Bet that was a pain to get in a chant of the terraces in Tripoli.



  • Argh......don't get me started.

    The latest is Kiev. Since all this trouble with Russia the Ukrainians want to go back & call it Kyiv.

    The capital of Turkey was Constantinople it's now Istanbul. (Great song about it btw)

    Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe.

    You get the gist.........
    It will always be Byzantium for the purists (like me).
    Welcome to Charlton Life Boris
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,280
    Eswantini is another one, we used to know it as Swaziland, similarly Macedonia is now North Macedonia, Czech Republic want to be known as Czechia, and Cape Verde are reverting to the old Portuguese name of Cabo Verde. 
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,971
    Tough luck, Erdogan, I've just ordered a 12lb turkiye for Christmas lunch.

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  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341
    We shouldn't have to put up with all these name changes. Someone needs to make an (Alan Curbishley) stand. 
  • Isnt Ivory Coast known as Cote D'Ivorie? 
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,199
    Yeah but why is it still called Ceylon tea?
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,357
    or as the Noi Yoikers would say .. it's a fecking toikey .. 

     but seriously lots of countries changed name to throw off the final yoke of colonialism and in the case of Ivory Coast the Cote D' is simply Francophoning the name of what is a French speaking country .. the D R Congo seems to change its name every time a new government or new tribe takes power
  • Argh......don't get me started.

    The latest is Kiev. Since all this trouble with Russia the Ukrainians want to go back & call it Kyiv.

    The capital of Turkey was Constantinople it's now Istanbul. (Great song about it btw)

    Rhodesia is now Zimbabwe.

    You get the gist.........
    It will always be Byzantium for the purists (like me).
    Welcome to Charlton Life Boris
    Oi, I will be seeing you over at Makros (formerly called cash & carry) car park.
  • EastTerrace
    EastTerrace Posts: 3,961
    It is now a three syllable pronunciation  “tur-kay-ah”.

    Who decided that? Mark E Smith?
  • Is rhe Czech Republic still slowly trying to move to being called Czechia?
  • Heard Ukraine are changing soon, to Russia.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,357
    Is rhe Czech Republic still slowly trying to move to being called Czechia?
    it is .. and that was a recent(ish) answer on Pointless .. first I had heard of it
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,658
    I vaguely remember the Daily Telegraph being siller buggers by refusing to refer to Peking as Beijing for a long time after the name was changed. They might have done the same thing with Bombay/Mumbai too.