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This is the worst I've seen

DiscoCAFC
DiscoCAFC Posts: 1,762
in General Charlton
Ever since I started watching Charlton since 1992!

I'm a season ticket holder, left at 3-0 on Saturday and did not bother going tonight as I feel so deflated with this season and our performances have been dreadful.

We did not prepare well during the summer, our recruitment strategy has been poor and apart from a couple of players who stand out for me the rest are not good enough. I can easily tell how deflated Curbs sounds so even our most expertise in football can see something is wrong.

I remember during the summer I was speaking to a senior figure at Charlton this person said 'we need signings'. That tells you alot for me!

I'm not ant-TS yet but I feel he's been very naive with his decision making. If he does not improve over the mistakes over the summer I will start to ask serious questions. Thomas needs to learn the mistakes and get the recruitment right and get the signings in earlier.
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  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,484
    You about Saturday mate?
  • Mike
    Mike Posts: 6,166
    Thoroughly depressing isn't it. Just deflating. Going into games knowing we have no chance.
  • twiggyaddick
    twiggyaddick Posts: 1,564
    agreed, i thought until recently it was comparable to 10/11 or 16/17, but this is worse and I can see us going down.
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    edited February 2022
    Been going Charlton 60 years and this is the worst I have ever seen and believe me I have seen some shit in that time.

    The complete lack of bottle, fight and pride in this team is what does my head in.

    More fight in most Sunday league team.

    players are a fucking disgrace.
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    twiggyaddick said:
    agreed, i thought until recently it was comparable to 10/11 or 16/17, but this is worse and I can see us going down.
    Behave.
  • NorthStandUltra
    NorthStandUltra Posts: 2,538
    In terms of league position, this is the worse but the team that Pardew had & got relegated from the Championship was loads worse than this lot 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Hartleypete said:
    Been going Charlton 60 years and this is the worst I have ever seen and believe me I have seen some shit in that time.

    The complete lack of bottle, fight and pride in this team is what does my head in.

    More fight in some most Sunday league team.

    players are a fucking disgrace.
    Nail on head HP, my thoughts exactly.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,070
    Struggling to think back to the Frank Nouble side when Powell took over or Slades half season or this one. 
  • DiscoCAFC
    DiscoCAFC Posts: 1,762
    NorthStandUltra said:
    In terms of league position, this is the worse but the team that Pardew had & got relegated from the Championship was loads worse than this lot 

    Disagree completly.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    This is the worst team we've ever had. 

    You could always point to some players in the past couple of years like Solly, Jackson, Wright-Phillips, Reid, Holmes, Bauer, Aribo etc. etc. that would shine in a bad team and we knew we could rely on them to make something happen. 

    This team has nothing. 
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  • DDOUBLEE
    DDOUBLEE Posts: 1,473
    The 2010/11 team would wipe the floor with these lot, don't kid yourselves
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,142
    78 team was worse.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    edited February 2022
    The rebuild to get out of this mess properly is going to take a long time I’m afraid. We could be down here for half a dozen seasons.

    In the short term we have our four strikers injured with games against Sheff Wed and Sunderland coming up. Those games are already lost. The last 10 games of the season will be where we get the points that keep us up.

    Summer overhaul needed now. Sandgaard needs to figure out if he wants Jackson in for next season now. He also needs to have a serious look in the mirror and determine whether something he’s been doing isn’t working either.
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,234
    It’s truly dire. 
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,616
    What Sandgaard doesn't get is he needs spend about 10 million pounds to get us out of this league - we sell our players within about 20 mins of them showing any promise, we cant even get a season out of them. 

    so we have to spend, it's pretty simple stuff.  

    we won't fluke it - we won't get lucky. 

    And that budget goes up to 30 million if we want to stay up in the Championship - the market is demands this.

    For a bloke into his numbers I don't get what he is thinking to be honest. 

    He put his dick in the custard and now we are seeing that it's much smaller than we thought originally. 




  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    I’d say now that Jackson won’t get the shout for next season. This isn’t just about the players. The tactics, selection and a lot more are wrong. Not a knee jerk reaction but I’d now clear out the entire management team. Including Gallen.
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,333
    JJ out of his depth…don’t see what this Skiverton brings…the worst I can remember in a long time this whole season….
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,223
    Seems so long ago that we had players like yann putting their body on the line every week and showing some passion. This whole team doesn't give a fuck, and there are very few players I have any afinity with. Didn't watch tonight as was out, but I think dobson is going to receive one of the highest percentages of votes there hqs been for player of the season... there isn't really another candidate and at least he looks like he wants to have a go every game
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    1992?

    piss off newbie, you don’t know the meaning of suffering 😂😂😂😂😎😎😎
  • charlton4ever
    charlton4ever Posts: 1,715
    edited February 2022
    Yep - we all walked out after 2nd goal but that's exactly what we knew would happen. Truly awful. 
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  • DiscoCAFC
    DiscoCAFC Posts: 1,762
    DA9 said:
    1992?

    piss off newbie, you don’t know the meaning of suffering 😂😂😂😂😎😎😎

    My parents tell me that far too often mate lol
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    edited February 2022
    We've seen as worse I think.

    Our better managers, and I'm talking about Curbs and Powell here ,used to get a tune out of the most turgid of squads when the chips were down and we needed to stop the rot.
    I'm not convinced Jackson has that touch? But it's still early days.
    Big pressure on him now. He needs this group to step up.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    edited February 2022
    Nowhere near as depressing as the season we came bottom of the Championship.

    Don’t get me wrong, this season has been disastrous, but not quite the worst IMO.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,031
    This season has not been great but it's a culmination of factors.
    However......
    Give Jackson funds in the summer and support him, come October and it's not good, have a total clear out of management and backroom staff.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    NorthStandUltra said:
    In terms of league position, this is the worse but the team that Pardew had & got relegated from the Championship was loads worse than this lot 
    Technically thanks to Pards upping sticks that was Parkinson that got relegated with that team.
  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    This season has not been great but it's a culmination of factors.
    However......
    Give Jackson funds in the summer and support him, come October and it's not good, have a total clear out of management and backroom staff.

    I'm more of the opinion now that we should do this before the summer before we waste another season.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    Certainly in terms of league position. But sadly recency bias is probably making it feel as bad as it is, and it is bad - yet I can remember some truly awful games even when we were in the championship. 

    Indeed I think the first half against Norwich in maybe 2017 where it finished 3-2 to them was probably the worst I’ve ever seen. I distinctly remember we had one moment in that half where we actually won a free kick in a good attacking position, and about 5 seconds later Norwich somehow ended up scoring.

    Then the sucker punch at the end after we somehow got back into the game. 

    The joys of being a Charlton fan. 

  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
    Funnily enough, watching tonight’s game reminded me of that 2010 season when Chris Powell took over, players with limited ability who didn’t seem to care whether we won or lost.

    (Ok , he wasn’t great tonight, but why didn’t we sign Scott Twine last summer?).


  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,273
    edited February 2022
    I know we have made money on transfers since TS has been here, and quite a bit but how a L1 team can be 5 points away from mid table having spent something like £2M in 15 months is staggering.  Abysmal recruitment strategy. 

    Maybe it is MS / TS tinkering but given they are staying, Gallen has to go in the summer and we need to hope Pope and Gomez move on and we have a decent budget again.

    All that money spent, one of the highest wage budgets and we are not even bottom of the 11-12 decent teams in this division.

    Since Gallen came out end of Jan and said the spine was done and just tinkering in the windows was left we have been comprehensively out played time and time again.

    On top of that we still have an injury prone squad of players which is now a feature going back 3 seasons, and we are re-signing the likes of Aneke we know can't stay fit. It's just illogical.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,977
    edited February 2022
    The perpetual "re-builds", the crap signings, the ongoing injuries crisis that never ends, free tickets that prevent paying customers from going, owners who want a football club but aren't willing to front the money to make it successful. The club has been a shambles for nearly 15 years now, Im sick of it. 

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