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Lee Bowyer
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Mendonca in Asda spotted in Waitrose?!Leroy Ambrose said:
Money chasers? You mean like your namesake?mendonca said:Bowyer, Taylor, Phillips...money chasers who hardly set the league above up on fire.0 -
Bowyer needs a years rest from football.
If/when he returns, he will be a good manager4 -
He might as well have just said 'please sack me'MattF said:
But fair play to him, i think he's entitled to call out the owners if they haven't done what they said they would.7 -
I think he is very far from gullible or stupid
Brum was a strange choice after us but he took it.
Now the owners haven't delivered he's being fairly honest and showing his frustration.
Actually refreshing to hear a manager being that open rather than hiding behind clichés.
I think it is because he doesn't need to work, he's financially secure and that he genuinely doesn't give a **** if he upsets the owners.
Yes, it's his version of the story but who else's should he tell?26 -
I’d rather he’d been more open and honest about the crooks who owned us rather than the ‘strange’ stuff but maybe still wanted the job and the Range Rover back then9
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I suspect that if he does go, there will be another job for him sooner or later if he wants it. He's young (in coaching terms) he's English and he's enough of a "name" that someone will take a punt.
League One/Championship also-ran is probably his ceiling as a manager but that's still fairly respectable and I doubt he's scrabbling to pay bills each month so he can afford to be out of work for a while.2 -
Its like his time at the end with us where he lets snippets come out as a PR exercise for his reputation to be saved.
To be fair though if he has been promised funds/control and that has not happened you can see he would feel let down but speaking out won’t put him in a good light with other owners for another job.
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Phil Brown is still getting managerial roles, so i'm sure Bowyer won't have any trouble.thenewbie said:I suspect that if he does go, there will be another job for him sooner or later if he wants it. He's young (in coaching terms) he's English and he's enough of a "name" that someone will take a punt.
League One/Championship also-ran is probably his ceiling as a manager but that's still fairly respectable and I doubt he's scrabbling to pay bills each month so he can afford to be out of work for a while.
He's managed 2 clubs who are an absolute mess and has a promotion to his name.3 -
He knew it was a basket case when he went there, thus onus would be put on them not him in case of failure.0
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Being a manager when you have all the daily politics to put up with when you either have dodgy owners, eccentric owners or giant ego owners or in Chelsea case; the London fixer for Putin. Chelsea fans didn't give a flying fuck that it was dirty money as they celebrated 19 trophies.
Lee has had most of the above in his few years as Manager. Bowyer had the good luck or good scouting to have Bielik, Callan, Taylor, Aribo and the new Grant to give his team a big lift but also had shit house Southall to deal with at the end and Lee and Steve Gallen went along with the charade on that infamous last day of the transfer window.
Lee Bowyer has self inflicted baggage from his playing career but if he had more luck with injuries then that first 45 minutes against Nottingham Forest at the valley which is still one of the best passing and link up play I and many others had seen from a Charlton team in the Championship, we may have been seen more often with good finishing to go with the silky passing.
Would be interesting if Lee Bowyer got a job at a well run club to see how he would do ?
I think he may be fishing for a new job ?0 - Sponsored links:
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Any owners scared off by someone that speaks out the truth, is not worth working for.roseandcrown said:Its like his time at the end with us where he lets snippets come out as a PR exercise for his reputation to be saved.
To be fair though if he has been promised funds/control and that has not happened you can see he would feel let down but speaking out won’t put him in a good light with other owners for another job.0 -
Bowyer is considering bringing Jobe Bellingham, 16 year old brother of Jude into the Brum squad this weekend1
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He's coming home, he's coming home........3
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Going back to Sevenoaks?Cafc43v3r said:He's coming home, he's coming home........0 -
Look at him trying to get the sack and pay off.9
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Yes, he doesn't exactly sound like someone fighting to keep his jobmendonca said:Look at him trying to get the sack and pay off.
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It is what it is.5
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No way I want him back as managerCafc43v3r said:He's coming home, he's coming home........4 -
Genuinely feel he’d get us promoted if he were to ever come back. However, that’s just my opinion.17
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As I've said before, almost everything that Bowyer says to the media has an agenda. From the measured statement about the likes of the non playing Taylor (who he remarkably managed to forgive very quickly) to the not so measured straight after the match blaming of his players for any poor result.mendonca said:Look at him trying to get the sack and pay off.6 -
Could he be the next Aneke for us... Tommy paying severance to Brum!0
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I think he's a bit too negative (attitude wise) for Tommy.0
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I'd have him back in a heartbeat. As a player he was everything I love to see, squeezed every last drop out of his ability by wanting it more than his peers. Talk or listen to anyone who played against or with him.
Anyway, it went to shit but I still blame the players which are essentially the same group. His mantra is fairly simple, leave it all out there, earn the right to play, out-want your opponents. With decent backing he will propel anyone upwards and he has never had any backing in his managerial career.
The element of his character people have pulled up is how emotional he reacts when things don't go well, I had no problem with him pulling up players for bottling tackles but in fairness he probably shouldn't have done it but the tension he was under with having gotten rid of Dushitalet he had a seemingly decent chairman who had been hamstrung by a wage cap that proved to be a load of bollocks and was lifted albeit too late.
Anyway, whoever comes in is going to be stuck with whoever someone other than a manager that we don't have, signs. So no chance of any manager choosing players to sign or resign, so probably the wrong place for Lee Bowyer to come back to. If he has anything like a long career he will definitely become a manager who has a certain type of player
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It is a certain type of player required to play a certain way and within a restrictive system- non possession based, hit on the break and defend our position philosophy. Out of 91 League wins in his managerial career, 74 have come when his side have scored two or less goals. In just five of those 91 wins has his side scored more than three goals - that is remarkably low but it is a reflection of "we hold what we've got at all costs" which, as we know, cost us dearly at times. How many times did we concede late trying to defend our own box?Carter said:I'd have him back in a heartbeat. As a player he was everything I love to see, squeezed every last drop out of his ability by wanting it more than his peers. Talk or listen to anyone who played against or with him.
Anyway, it went to shit but I still blame the players which are essentially the same group. His mantra is fairly simple, leave it all out there, earn the right to play, out-want your opponents. With decent backing he will propel anyone upwards and he has never had any backing in his managerial career.
The element of his character people have pulled up is how emotional he reacts when things don't go well, I had no problem with him pulling up players for bottling tackles but in fairness he probably shouldn't have done it but the tension he was under with having gotten rid of Dushitalet he had a seemingly decent chairman who had been hamstrung by a wage cap that proved to be a load of bollocks and was lifted albeit too late.
Anyway, whoever comes in is going to be stuck with whoever someone other than a manager that we don't have, signs. So no chance of any manager choosing players to sign or resign, so probably the wrong place for Lee Bowyer to come back to. If he has anything like a long career he will definitely become a manager who has a certain type of player
As a relegated Championship side we managed just 50 goals in 46 games and this season Birmingham have only found the net 49 times in 45 matches - that's only slightly more than a goal a game. I would also dispute the "he's never had any backing" - in League 1 when we had a squad with players such as Steer, Phillips, Dijksteel, Bauer, Sarr, Aribo, Grant ('til January), Taylor, Cullen, Bielik and Fosu-Henry (all proven to be better than League 1) plus Solly, Purrington, Williams, Reeves, Pearce, Vetokele and Pratley at his disposal (all decent at that level) and yet we were the lowest scorers of the top six sides. Arguably that squad was stronger than the one that CP's in 2011-12.
That predictable and easy to counter style of play and the fact that TS is looking for someone capable of being successful not just in League 1 but also the Championship is why I hope that he never returns to us. Plus the fact that I always view anything he says with an element of cynicism.5 -
Definite no from me
Passion up and at em Stuart Pearce styley can get you so far but once that’s gone what’s left
That team that won the play offs had sooo many proper players we should have gone up automatically and nearly did but after that initial burst in the Championship we were abysmal.
His best feat for us was turning us around after he became manager
Loyal Lee walked out on us when something better came along and I don’t blame him but I don’t think he has the required people skills to get the the best from the modern day footballer .
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I don’t think Lee could work with TS as well as jumping up a division and increasing his salary, ie Ronnie S coming in from absolutely no where, he wants to have more of an input of who comes into the club.
If he did come back ( I don’t think he will) we’d have to employ at least another 4 physios given the amount of players he broke whilst he was here last time around.
Lee thrives on confrontation under difficult circumstances, that’s why I’m convinced if he does drop down a level he’s off to Derby.0 -
Not so sure mate... The whole Recruitment structure has changed since he was here - Think it'll end up being a challenge for any Manager who is used to having the main say on who comes in.Sage said:Genuinely feel he’d get us promoted if he were to ever come back. However, that’s just my opinion.
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Think Lee walked because he summed up TS, and didn't like what he saw.
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Yep. Whatever we think about Roland, he wasn’t really interested in the football and just let Lee get on with it, where as TS wants a bit more say on where he puts his money.fenlandaddick said:Think Lee walked because he summed up TS, and didn't like what he saw.3
