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Another Shooting In America?
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It’s not ignorance on your part at all, very few outside America can really understand this.Covered End said:Excusing my ignorance, but what are the top few reasons for school shooting in the US?
I can imagine a grudge against school mates and teachers or ex school mates and teachers, but what else and why would an 18 year old, murder 4-11 year olds?
The sad reality is that in London, Toronto or Sydney a teenage kid with a sudden grudge can’t get a gun, it’s just not possible.
In America they sell the fucking things at the supermarket. They sell ammunition too.
You can get a gun as easy as you can get a baseball bat, the background checks are a joke.5 -
Those poor innocent children.
They deserve better adults.
But the children who are still alive live in fear because those adults can’t adult properly.
Fucking gutless wankers.
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On BBC's live feed following the attack:
"Texas Senator Ted Cruz described the Uvalde shooting as "truly horrific", but said gun reforms were not the way to prevent such crimes"
I....I cant. These shooters aren't hard up criminals that would go any lengths to find a weapon. They're you're average Joe who has a gun in his dads wankcabinet. One moment of anger/depression/jealousy; whatever it may be, will always lead to this outcome if guns are readily available.6 -
Yes, they are deluded. Of course gun reforms are the way to prevent such crimes. Absolute political lunacy!0
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The whole country is permanently on the verge of civil war at the moment. What nobody mentions is that any attempt to regulate guns - even with the backing of the NRA (which will, of course, never happen) would tip the country into full blown conflict. There would be thousands of mini Wacos overnight.
The US is, for want of a better term, fucked.9 -
Absolutely spot on.Leroy Ambrose said:The whole country is permanently on the verge of civil war at the moment. What nobody mentions is that any attempt to regulate guns - even with the backing of the NRA (which will, of course, never happen) would tip the country into full blown conflict. There would be thousands of mini Wacos overnight.
The US is, for want of a better term, fucked.
History is moving past the Americans, no other country in the world would accept this going on, not a single one, and yet they not only accept the gun violence they actively enable it.
America was forged in violence and over the following two hundred years has never been able to escape its violent history, people clinging to their guns like it’s still the fucking Wild West, it’s absolutely pathetic.
The whole place is fucked beyond measure, I know an American family here, former neighbours of ours (the wife is an absolute MILF but that’s for another time), who came here from suburban Kansas City, just about the dullest place imaginable, and told us that in KC they had several guns in the house “for protection.”
They have been here six years now and when I saw them last, just before Christmas, we had a laugh about how much life here in Australia has changed them, they have become completely different people, so much more relaxed, and the husband admitted that they didn’t realise how strange America was until they adjusted to life here.
The Americans love to go round the world lecturing people about human rights, how about they try enforcing the right of a fucking child to go to school without getting their head blown off by a shotgun?7 -
As a kid, I used to always want to live in the US. I thought it was a great country with the best people ever (ok I based my opinions on TV programs I watched) but my God I am glad I never moved over there.They seem to be the most messed up county in the world. One that puts its love of guns over the love and protection of innocent kids!5
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19 dead now including 1 teacher.0
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The total is 18 children dead, the shooter (killed by police), the shooter's grandmother and one teacher. All of the dead are age 8-11, apparently. The shooter is Hispanic and 18 years old. Word is that he waltzed into a gun store and bought two AR-15s on his 18th birthday. This was the 3rd to last day of school before the summer break. I wish I could say this would finally allow politicians to be elected who want to end this but in reality the GOP will probably take control of both of our Legislative branches this November. Greg Abbott, the Texas Governor and Donald Trump are set to speak at the NRA Annual Conference as soon as this week.
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A post i saw on twitter kind of sums this up.
"Texas, where the governor was more concerned with keeping masks out of schools than guns".5 - Sponsored links:
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The same governor who a few years ago posted this on twitter. What hope do they have when that is the mindset?
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the shooter clearly had issues. this is heartbreaking. Cruz was on the news saying the best solution is armed security on campus….
frstly - where we’re they?
secondly - is the best way to stop this to supply more guns?Fucking hell they have some fuzzy logic!
”guns don’t kill people, people kill people” is the argument! Well stop giving people deadly weapons at the drop of a hat!
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Absolutely correct. When America decided it would do nothing after the horrific Sandy Hook attack, it decided the massacre of young children was an acceptable tradeoff for lax gun laws.SELR_addicks said:Once Sandy Hook passed and America chose guns over children, this was never going to stop.
Their solution is arming teachers, what a backwards country.1 -
Death toll now 21, including 19 children.
Quite a few more are in hospital.0 -
A spokesman on Sky news has just said that in America ten times as many people under the age of 25 have died from guns than from Covid during this pandemic.
Madness.0 -
The Republicans don’t want to reform gun laws as they only care about children whilst they are still in the womb.6
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Such a tragedy - I feel desperately sorry for the victims and their families and friends. I hope one day the US wakes up from this madness.0
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For those of you who have read Sapiens will understand this.
Being “American” is no different to following the “rules” of Islam, Christianity or anything else.Nationalism is a religion.
It’s based on control and power and there are far too many who won’t shake it off to rid this weird obsession over there.4 -
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You reap what you sow.Chris_from_Sidcup said:The same governor who a few years ago posted this on twitter. What hope do they have when that is the mindset?1 - Sponsored links:
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It's so bizarre and alien to me that a majority of Americans would rather put up with this as a consequence of gun ownership being legal (and easy) than just do the sensible thing and ban guns.
We had this happen once in Dunblane and that was that, complete ban.
Apparently the most likely cause of death in an under 18 year old in American isn't car accidents, cancer, SIDS... it's being shot. Barmy.
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Even then, 90% want background checks.
Who are the 10%?
Why don't 90%+ want guns banned? Crazy country.0 -
You would hope so....but I bet it doesn't happen.WSS said:Will anything make a politician/president actually risk it all and sort this out?
So backwards.0 -
I agree with you.golfaddick said:I'm going to be flamed for this but .........
Sad as it is nothing can be done until guns are banned in the US. And as the gun lobby is so big over there nothing will change. Its not news any more & doesn't shock me.
If millions of US citizens openly want to own a gun & more importantly see it as a RIGHT then there is no point being shocked when some teenager decides he is going to shoot up a school.
Remember "I dont like Monday's". That was over 40 years ago.
Sadly, I'm no longer surprised but I'm still sickened.
I love the USA but it has some really messed up people with some sick views from torch marchers shouting "Jews will not replace us" in Charlottesville, trying to ban abortion, denial that trump lost, Qanon conspiracies, incels, declinism and "great" replacement theory and that all wrapped up with no gun control and serious untreated mental health issues being exploited on places like reddit and 4 and 8chan.
RIP to the teacher and children.5 -
I went to university in the states and on my second day there was an active shooter on campus, it was the second time it had occurred in 3 years. The attitude towards guns from so many Americans is baffling. In the UK the far right and far left don't agree on much but guns being bad easily unites them1
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The NRA are pretty powerful and very very wealthy. It's nigh on impossible to pass gun control laws through congress. Some individual states have made a strong stance but little they can do for the rest of the countryHastingsRed said:
You would hope so....but I bet it doesn't happen.WSS said:Will anything make a politician/president actually risk it all and sort this out?
So backwards.3 -
This will never stop:
Agree with the opinions about a civil war if you tried to take away the guns; But if you don't, this carnage will carry on for ever.
It breaks my heart with the mass murder of Children and the inability of solutions to solve the wild west mentality of the right to bare arms.0 -
I looked this up because I didn't know the answer... 42% of american households own at least one gun, and it's fluctuated between 47% and 37% since the 70's. It's not as if a majority of households, let alone adults, have guns. Wondering if like smoking it can be turned into a generational thing that people just go off them?
This is interesting The demographics of gun ownership in the U.S. | Pew Research Center
That old Chris Rock joke about how they don't need gun control they need bullet control, where each bullet costs £5000 might not be such a bad idea!0
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