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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,755
    suzisausage said:
    successful review for NZ overturning umpire decision. Bairstow out. Stokes starts with a boundary. 
    I know Bairstow is playing for England and I should wish him all the best.
    But.
    I just love it when he's on the wrong end of a review. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,079
    Entertaining knock by Stokes, but confused why he was playing in T20 mode. We're not batting for a declaration
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,178
    blackpool72 said:
    suzisausage said:
    successful review for NZ overturning umpire decision. Bairstow out. Stokes starts with a boundary. 
    I know Bairstow is playing for England and I should wish him all the best.
    But.
    I just love it when he's on the wrong end of a review. 
    Think him and Crawley will be nervously wandering if their test match careers are about to be interrupted. 
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Ben foakes with a great opportunity here. Tired bowlers and part timers new ball losing its shine and 400 on the board.
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,561
    Stupid stupid Stokes ….. gave his wicket away when we are still long way behind in the match he has to think of the team now not just himself 

  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,852
    killerandflash said:
    Entertaining knock by Stokes, but confused why he was playing in T20 mode. We're not batting for a declaration
    This.

    We've been rattling along at 4 an over & although I love to see attacking batting we are still 150 runs behind.

    No need to try to hit every ball for 6.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Yeah but imagine if he would’ve rocketed to 100, with us 50 runs behind at end of play, we’d all be calling him a genius with the game very much on. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    golfaddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Entertaining knock by Stokes, but confused why he was playing in T20 mode. We're not batting for a declaration
    This.

    We've been rattling along at 4 an over & although I love to see attacking batting we are still 150 runs behind.

    No need to try to hit every ball for 6.
    He does it too often imo, there will be enough bad balls to put away if you bat long enough.  Him and Root should just have kept the score card ticking over.  Plenty of value to be had for your shots and no need to force it.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,755
    kentaddick said:
    Ben foakes with a great opportunity here. Tired bowlers and part timers new ball losing its shine and 400 on the board.
    His job now is to support Root and protect the tail.

  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    RonnieMoore said:
    Stupid stupid Stokes ….. gave his wicket away when we are still long way behind in the match he has to think of the team now not just himself 

    Your the stupid one

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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    kentaddick said:
    Yeah but imagine if he would’ve rocketed to 100, with us 50 runs behind at end of play, we’d all be calling him a genius with the game very much on. 
    Root is rattling a long with a strike rate of 83.  He had to need to try and hit every ball for six.
  • Andyessgee90
    Andyessgee90 Posts: 848
    This is the only time this test team is crying out for Buttler. Imagine him coming in on this deck against a knackered bowling attack. We’d be at 600-6 before lunch tomorrow. Well, that or 463-7 tonight. 
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,317
    Fair play to England.  Fully expected a typical England batting collapse today. Nice to see a bit of resilience 
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Johnnysummers5 said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Stupid stupid Stokes ….. gave his wicket away when we are still long way behind in the match he has to think of the team now not just himself 

    Your the stupid one
    *you're
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,518
    Could Root be the greatest sportsman we've ever produced?
    Gotta be up there.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,079
    Root is definitely in my all time England 11, just counting players I've seen (live or on TV)
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    edited June 2022
    killerandflash said:
    Root is definitely in my all time England 11, just counting players I've seen (live or on TV)
    England best of my lifetime XI:

    Atherton
    Cook (c)
    Gooch
    Root
    Pietersen
    Stokes
    Stewart (wk)
    Flintoff
    Swann
    Anderson
    S Jones
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    kentaddick said:
    Johnnysummers5 said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Stupid stupid Stokes ….. gave his wicket away when we are still long way behind in the match he has to think of the team now not just himself 

    Your the stupid one
    *you're
    Your not wrong
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,317
    He's the greatest English batsman I've ever seen. 

    Possibly the greatest English batsman of all time by the time he retires 
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,205
    edited June 2022
    Johnnysummers5 said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Stupid stupid Stokes ….. gave his wicket away when we are still long way behind in the match he has to think of the team now not just himself 

    Your the stupid one
    @RonnieMoore will go down in history for his astonishingly low IQ, but you can’t call somebody stupid and not know the difference between your & you’re.

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,079
    kentaddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Root is definitely in my all time England 11, just counting players I've seen (live or on TV)
    England best of my lifetime XI:

    Atherton
    Cook (c)
    Gooch
    Root
    Pietersen
    Stokes
    Stewart (wk)
    Flintoff
    Swann
    Anderson
    S Jones
    Gooch
    Cook
    Gower
    Root
    Vaughan (C)
    Botham
    Knott (wk)
    Swann
    Broad
    Harmison
    Anderson

    The tricky thing is whether to go for consistency over a long career, or to go for players who had a really high peak, but didn't last as long e.g. Harmison. Also Vaughan was a brilliant captain, but scored a lot more runs without the job, so tempted to give it to Gooch who improved his batting as a captain!

    Knott gets the gloves as I need a Kent player in the side! Underwood would come in for one of the seamers on a turning pitch. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,952
    Gooch
    Cook (C)
    Gower
    Root
    Pietersen
    Botham
    Knott (WK)
    Broad
    Underwood
    Willis
    Anderson
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    killerandflash said:
    kentaddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Root is definitely in my all time England 11, just counting players I've seen (live or on TV)
    England best of my lifetime XI:

    Atherton
    Cook (c)
    Gooch
    Root
    Pietersen
    Stokes
    Stewart (wk)
    Flintoff
    Swann
    Anderson
    S Jones
    Gooch
    Cook
    Gower
    Root
    Vaughan (C)
    Botham
    Knott (wk)
    Swann
    Broad
    Harmison
    Anderson

    The tricky thing is whether to go for consistency over a long career, or to go for players who had a really high peak, but didn't last as long e.g. Harmison. Also Vaughan was a brilliant captain, but scored a lot more runs without the job, so tempted to give it to Gooch who improved his batting as a captain!

    Knott gets the gloves as I need a Kent player in the side! Underwood would come in for one of the seamers on a turning pitch. 
    at their absolute prime, so S jones during the 05 ashes was one of the most effective bowlers i've ever seen. But he was mostly injured in his short career.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    couple of great appointments imo 

    https://www.thecricketer.com/Topics/england/mark_alleyne_neil_killeen_join_england_staff_netherlands_series.html

    if he was in this era, mark alleyne would have 100% been our white ball captain.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,405
    Everyone not picking Trescothick, which is all of you, has no poetry in their soul
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Leuth said:
    Everyone not picking Trescothick, which is all of you, has no poetry in their soul
    too many good openers recently (ironic considering our current problems).
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,100
    Callumcafc said:
    Any chance of a groundsman in this country finding a good balance between bat and ball?

    Feels like after all the criticism of the bowler friendly pitches following the Ashes, some have gone too far the other way and prepared roads.


    Thought there might be some balance coming back after the low scoring affair at Lords but after watching some of this Test, it seems like we’re at one extreme or the other.
    This is only the case if you look at the scorecard in isolation. I think the pitch was actually decent and had plenty in it for both bat and ball. Good value for your shots but still plenty of bounce and carry for the quicks and just started to show a little spin in day 3 which suggests it'll turn more day 4 and 5. How many dropped catches have there been in this match? would have looked very different if they had been taken.

    dont think there is much to really criticise this pitch for tbh.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,079
    killerandflash said:
    kentaddick said:
    killerandflash said:
    Root is definitely in my all time England 11, just counting players I've seen (live or on TV)
    England best of my lifetime XI:

    Atherton
    Cook (c)
    Gooch
    Root
    Pietersen
    Stokes
    Stewart (wk)
    Flintoff
    Swann
    Anderson
    S Jones
    Gooch
    Cook
    Gower
    Root
    Vaughan (C)
    Botham
    Knott (wk)
    Swann
    Broad
    Harmison
    Anderson

    The tricky thing is whether to go for consistency over a long career, or to go for players who had a really high peak, but didn't last as long e.g. Harmison. Also Vaughan was a brilliant captain, but scored a lot more runs without the job, so tempted to give it to Gooch who improved his batting as a captain!

    Knott gets the gloves as I need a Kent player in the side! Underwood would come in for one of the seamers on a turning pitch. 
    2nd 11

    Boycott
    Strauss (C)
    Trott
    KP
    Thorpe
    Flintoff
    Prior (wk)
    Broad
    S Jones
    Underwood
    Willis

    3rd 11

    Atherton (C)
    Trescothick
    Gatting
    Bell
    Collingwood
    Stokes
    Stewart (wk)
    Moeen
    Wood
    Gough
    Hoggard

    I'd like to see those 3 teams (at their peak) play each other! That 3rd 11 has a ridiculously short tail.



  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,138
    carly burn said:
    Could Root be the greatest sportsman we've ever produced?
    Gotta be up there.
    Not even close.

    I reckon if you asked 100 people to name their top 5, he would be unlikely to feature at all.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Strauss (c)
    Cook
    Trott
    Kp
    Root
    Bell
    Prior (w)
    Swann
    Jones
    Gough 
    Anderson

    Ask me later and I'll change 5 of them.

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