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England Cricket 2022
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Callumcafc said:
Draw 55.5%Callumcafc said:
Betfair saysgolfaddick said:So what are the odds tomorrow & what do Winviz reckon ?
Personally I think NZ are slight favourites because I know we still have a batting collapse in us & their spinner looks a lot more dangerous than Leach.
I'd say
NZ 50%
England 40%
Draw 10%
- Draw 47.4%- England 34.9%- New Zealand 17.7%
Remortgage the house job if you can get 9/2 on a coin clip.England 33.3%New Zealand 11.2%How quickly it can flipDraw 58.8%England 14.3%New Zealand 26.9%0 -
golfaddick said:This is where the run rate drops. Trying to go at 4 an over for 70 overs is asking some.
I think that’s the most sensible post you’ve made in relation to run rates and test cricket ….0 -
Still a long way to go. Get the ball 35/40 overs old & its shown that it doesn't do much. Need to have wickets in hand come the last 20 overs.0
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also why these "win predictors" are completely useless.Callumcafc said:Callumcafc said:
Draw 55.5%Callumcafc said:
Betfair saysgolfaddick said:So what are the odds tomorrow & what do Winviz reckon ?
Personally I think NZ are slight favourites because I know we still have a batting collapse in us & their spinner looks a lot more dangerous than Leach.
I'd say
NZ 50%
England 40%
Draw 10%
- Draw 47.4%- England 34.9%- New Zealand 17.7%
Remortgage the house job if you can get 9/2 on a coin clip.England 33.3%New Zealand 11.2%How quickly it can flipDraw 58.8%England 14.3%New Zealand 26.9%1 -
They're not a prediction. So, if they're used as a prediction then, yes, they're useless. In the same way that they're useless as a weather forecast.kentaddick said:
also why these "win predictors" are completely useless.Callumcafc said:Callumcafc said:
Draw 55.5%Callumcafc said:
Betfair saysgolfaddick said:So what are the odds tomorrow & what do Winviz reckon ?
Personally I think NZ are slight favourites because I know we still have a batting collapse in us & their spinner looks a lot more dangerous than Leach.
I'd say
NZ 50%
England 40%
Draw 10%
- Draw 47.4%- England 34.9%- New Zealand 17.7%
Remortgage the house job if you can get 9/2 on a coin clip.England 33.3%New Zealand 11.2%How quickly it can flipDraw 58.8%England 14.3%New Zealand 26.9%2 -
If they are not predictors then what are they ?Chizz said:
They're not a prediction. So, if they're used as a prediction then, yes, they're useless. In the same way that they're useless as a weather forecast.kentaddick said:
also why these "win predictors" are completely useless.Callumcafc said:Callumcafc said:
Draw 55.5%Callumcafc said:
Betfair saysgolfaddick said:So what are the odds tomorrow & what do Winviz reckon ?
Personally I think NZ are slight favourites because I know we still have a batting collapse in us & their spinner looks a lot more dangerous than Leach.
I'd say
NZ 50%
England 40%
Draw 10%
- Draw 47.4%- England 34.9%- New Zealand 17.7%
Remortgage the house job if you can get 9/2 on a coin clip.England 33.3%New Zealand 11.2%How quickly it can flipDraw 58.8%England 14.3%New Zealand 26.9%0 -
A guessblackpool72 said:
If they are not predictors then what are they ?Chizz said:
They're not a prediction. So, if they're used as a prediction then, yes, they're useless. In the same way that they're useless as a weather forecast.kentaddick said:
also why these "win predictors" are completely useless.Callumcafc said:Callumcafc said:
Draw 55.5%Callumcafc said:
Betfair saysgolfaddick said:So what are the odds tomorrow & what do Winviz reckon ?
Personally I think NZ are slight favourites because I know we still have a batting collapse in us & their spinner looks a lot more dangerous than Leach.
I'd say
NZ 50%
England 40%
Draw 10%
- Draw 47.4%- England 34.9%- New Zealand 17.7%
Remortgage the house job if you can get 9/2 on a coin clip.England 33.3%New Zealand 11.2%How quickly it can flipDraw 58.8%England 14.3%New Zealand 26.9%0 -
Run rate needed now 4.50
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Crawley need to go and it should be Robson imo. Has to be Sam Robson. Picked when very young and did alright with less chances than many of those that followed. Gone away and worked on his game, got captaincy and leadership experience and scored runs consistently for years. Could be England's Chris Rogers or Adam Voges. Bonus that he's a right handed too.
As for Crawley, situation was basically made for him and his way of playing. Make a quick 20 and get out in his usual manner trying to drive one too far from his body and everyone would say he was doing a job for the team. You never know he could have rode his luck and got something more. But no. Completely fucked it. Has to go.
You just know that Bairstow is gonna do enough here in a winning cause to keep Brook out the side until he is no longer in form.0 -
Also why does Lees always look like someone's just done an awful fart right infront of him!0
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It's a model, which determines the likelihood of any number of outcomes. It doesn't *predict* what is going to happen. It demonstrates a model showing how likely it is for the game to finish (in this case) as an England win, a draw or a New Zealand win.blackpool72 said:
If they are not predictors then what are they ?Chizz said:
They're not a prediction. So, if they're used as a prediction then, yes, they're useless. In the same way that they're useless as a weather forecast.kentaddick said:
also why these "win predictors" are completely useless.Callumcafc said:Callumcafc said:
Draw 55.5%Callumcafc said:
Betfair saysgolfaddick said:So what are the odds tomorrow & what do Winviz reckon ?
Personally I think NZ are slight favourites because I know we still have a batting collapse in us & their spinner looks a lot more dangerous than Leach.
I'd say
NZ 50%
England 40%
Draw 10%
- Draw 47.4%- England 34.9%- New Zealand 17.7%
Remortgage the house job if you can get 9/2 on a coin clip.England 33.3%New Zealand 11.2%How quickly it can flipDraw 58.8%England 14.3%New Zealand 26.9%1 -
Very impressed with him since the 2nd innings at Lords though. Been a different player.cantersaddick said:Also why does Lees always look like someone's just done an awful fart right infront of him!0 -
It’s all just clever people using mathematical models. As more information comes in over time, the percentages will adjust. It’s not predicting anything, it’s just saying from this particular point in time, how likely is each outcome.kentaddick said:
also why these "win predictors" are completely useless.Callumcafc said:Callumcafc said:
Draw 55.5%Callumcafc said:
Betfair saysgolfaddick said:So what are the odds tomorrow & what do Winviz reckon ?
Personally I think NZ are slight favourites because I know we still have a batting collapse in us & their spinner looks a lot more dangerous than Leach.
I'd say
NZ 50%
England 40%
Draw 10%
- Draw 47.4%- England 34.9%- New Zealand 17.7%
Remortgage the house job if you can get 9/2 on a coin clip.England 33.3%New Zealand 11.2%How quickly it can flipDraw 58.8%England 14.3%New Zealand 26.9%
They’d more useless if they didn’t update after two quick wickets IMO.1 -
Sorry.cantersaddick said:
Very impressed with him since the 2nd innings at Lords though. Been a different player.cantersaddick said:Also why does Lees always look like someone's just done an awful fart right infront of him!6 -
This is it. Need a 100 run partnership between these 2. Lose 1 of them before we get to 200 then the games up.0
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Thank you o wise one 😁Chizz said:
It's a model, which determines the likelihood of any number of outcomes. It doesn't *predict* what is going to happen. It demonstrates a model showing how likely it is for the game to finish (in this case) as an England win, a draw or a New Zealand win.blackpool72 said:
If they are not predictors then what are they ?Chizz said:
They're not a prediction. So, if they're used as a prediction then, yes, they're useless. In the same way that they're useless as a weather forecast.kentaddick said:
also why these "win predictors" are completely useless.Callumcafc said:Callumcafc said:
Draw 55.5%Callumcafc said:
Betfair saysgolfaddick said:So what are the odds tomorrow & what do Winviz reckon ?
Personally I think NZ are slight favourites because I know we still have a batting collapse in us & their spinner looks a lot more dangerous than Leach.
I'd say
NZ 50%
England 40%
Draw 10%
- Draw 47.4%- England 34.9%- New Zealand 17.7%
Remortgage the house job if you can get 9/2 on a coin clip.England 33.3%New Zealand 11.2%How quickly it can flipDraw 58.8%England 14.3%New Zealand 26.9%1 -
Crawley suffers the misfortune of a poor technique, meaning he edges it to the slips all the time.killerandflash said:Crawley suffers the misfortune of having to face Boult rather than Southee1 -
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Now:
Eng 31%
NZ 30%
Draw 39%
Bit generous to us I think to be honest, but nice to have all 3 results about level likelihood (and all 4 still possible) on half 3 on the last day.
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again, ridiculous to have this so high. Sure as @callumCAFC says, it takes statistics, but it doesn't take on the psychology of it at all. I'd go so far as to say draw is by far the least likely conclusion to this game.North Lower Neil said:Now:
Eng 31%
NZ 30%
Draw 39%
Bit generous to us I think to be honest, but nice to have all 3 results about level likelihood (and all 4 still possible) on half 3 on the last day.1 -
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Draw still very much possible. One of these two out within the first five overs, the other out about 10 overs later. Foakes and the tail see 110 required from 20, go defensive and see out the last 20 overs for a draw.
If Bairstow and Stokes can last 20+ overs, it's in our hands. If the Kiwis have them both early, it's going to be a difficult 30+ overs for the tail.1 -
England snatching defeat from the jaws of victory?0
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You might be right. But, to win, New Zealand need six wickets in a session; England need 160 runs in a session. I don't know if either of those has happened in any of the previous fourteen sessions, but you are suggesting that their both more likely than not.kentaddick said:
again, ridiculous to have this so high. Sure as @callumCAFC says, it takes statistics, but it doesn't take on the psychology of it at all. I'd go so far as to say draw is by far the least likely conclusion to this game.North Lower Neil said:Now:
Eng 31%
NZ 30%
Draw 39%
Bit generous to us I think to be honest, but nice to have all 3 results about level likelihood (and all 4 still possible) on half 3 on the last day.0 -
yes still possible, but most likely? No way.Callumcafc said:Draw still very much possible. One of these two out within the first five overs, the other out about 10 overs later. Foakes and the tail see 110 required from 20, go defensive and see out the last 20 overs for a draw.
If Bairstow and Stokes can last 20+ overs, it's in our hands. If the Kiwis have them both early, it's going to be a difficult 30+ overs for the tail.0 -
But the management have said that's not their way.Callumcafc said:Foakes and the tail see 110 required from 20, go defensive and see out the last 20 overs for a draw.
I would say it's still NZ's to lose.
NZ 50%
England 40%
Draw 10%0 -
This could all end in tears.
Stokes was doing this in the first innings & tried one big hit too many.
BUT
If we can get quick runs then the lower order might only need to go at 2.5 - 3 an over.0 -
Well they’re having fun at least!0
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So am I! Enjoying this.Callumcafc said:Well they’re having fun at least!0 -
Run rate down to 3.40
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This is the England I'd hope we'd see under Brendon McCullum.
I'd much rather see us go for a win & lose than play for a draw & still lose anyway!!5
