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Rumours of Unpaid Rent
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thenewbie said:
I think he has good intentions and the principle of more communication is a good one. Problem is that between trolls and idiots on social media and blunders like Understandgate (and the whole Garner saga really) it becomes very clear why owners are NOT normally so open - it doesn't always end well.shirty5 said:
It’s him on LinkedIn talking to individuals via a private message board. He fuels the fire by doing soDave2l said:A question.
Does Thomas sandgaurd seek attention? Is he genuinely an attention seeker who cannot help himself? Or is that an unjustified insult.
Or, are there some right weird random pot stirring knobheads out there? Who have no life whatsoever?
Or, an unfortunate combination of two separate problems?
I don't know why sandgaurd would want to add fuel to an unnecessary drama or start some rumours.
He should get off Twitter. His fan communication has been appreciated, but it's probably now time to jump off it and minimise unnecessary conflict.
It is a shame in a way.
He may wanted to have been a rare breed type of football club owner. Someone who was outgoing, directly open to fans and more sociable.
Whatever is said, he does at least have some life about him and he wants to bring some optimism.
Problem is....not many people are trusted that much these days! There are always complaints and question marks. For understandable reasons.
It sounds like he is learning while on this job. He is learning as he is going along.
This could all end up going in a variety of different directions, and the long term resulting outcome of it is unpredictable.
I can only imagine a clear problem if he had a stubbornness alongside a natural argumentative nature. I can't see that being a clear characteristic of his. I think and hope he does listen to other people and he has the club's best interests at heart.0 -
Currently listening to the most ridiculous conversation on twitter9 -
I noticed Sean Clare dropped in for a bit2
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They’ve got a nice little echo chamber going on them lot. Clueless. At least we all don’t just agree with each other on here 😂
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Oh yes we do8
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Listened for about 20 seconds and turned it off, embarrassing comments from a few people trying to think they’re relevantPWADDICK said:1 -
I listened and there was actually some good points made. They do mean well.It’s getting trendy just to slate them now.5
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What were the good points?robroy said:I listened and there was actually some good points made. They do mean well.It’s getting trendy just to slate them now.
I read a tweet that some were banging on about the divide in the fan base but wouldn’t allow anyone to challenge their views!3 -
This.Fumbluff said:Oh yes we do0 -
Pointless having the discussion, everyone is hell bent on slating them regardless.Scoham said:
What were the good points?robroy said:I listened and there was actually some good points made. They do mean well.It’s getting trendy just to slate them now.
I read a tweet that some were banging on about the divide in the fan base but wouldn’t allow anyone to challenge their views!2 -
Everyone? I’m sure there will have been good points that most agree with, it’s not as if everyone is 100% pro TS on here.robroy said:
Pointless having the discussion, everyone is hell bent on slating them regardless.Scoham said:
What were the good points?robroy said:I listened and there was actually some good points made. They do mean well.It’s getting trendy just to slate them now.
I read a tweet that some were banging on about the divide in the fan base but wouldn’t allow anyone to challenge their views!2 -
It’s almost like some fans are willing us to fail. Or maybe they are so badly damaged and sceptical from the eras of Jimenez, Cash, Roland, Southall, Farnell etc that they now have trust issues and second guess every decision made.If Sandgaard has an agenda to exploit/destroy the club then he’s a genius because I can’t see it at all7
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I don't think he has such an agenda. The question is more around his competence to deliver what is required. When the evidence falls down firmly on the side that he has then everybody will get behind it i'm sure. Despite owning us for a while, we still need to see the evidence that proves it conclusively.
Personally and recently, I am not happy we have lost two Charlton greats. I don't think JJ had a chance to prove himself. Garner may well show that the right choice was made, but he is just as unproven and a gamble in my view. The difference is if we have a tough start, he will start to lose the fans more quickly than JJ or Euell would. I hope he hits the ground running. I really do.1 -
Nonsense. Absolute nonsense. Things like this are why there's a divide. 'Everyone just doesn't understand Dodger and what he's trying to say'. 'What's he trying to say?' 'Shut up, you'll just hate it anyway!' How is any divide going to be mended if people won't even discuss the situation? I don't do Twitter conversations, I don't know Dodger. He clearly means well but he has a very abrasive style based on what I've seen. Other than that I don't know what he's been saying. I'd like to know what good points he made as well, but if there's refusal to even talk about it and exchange opposite views then the people refusing to engage are the problem.robroy said:
Pointless having the discussion, everyone is hell bent on slating them regardless.Scoham said:
What were the good points?robroy said:I listened and there was actually some good points made. They do mean well.It’s getting trendy just to slate them now.
I read a tweet that some were banging on about the divide in the fan base but wouldn’t allow anyone to challenge their views!
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I am not on Twitter or Facebook and the like. The shorthand and those websites make no sense to me.
However I get the impression from the Sandgaard critics that there are several ‘better’ people and groups waiting to pour money into the club, but Sandgaard is stopping them.
Would it help the credibility of the critics to identify all those with money who are waiting?
As for Sandgaard getting some things wrong, of course he has, but is that supposed to mean that now all bets are off?0 -
I doubt there is a queue of people looking to buy a club that is seperated from its assets. Especially when the owner of the assets is delusional as to their value.3
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All I’m seeing on repeat is a group on Twitter quite literally hate this forum and vice versa.
It’s utterly childish and pathetic.I’m so grateful social media wasn’t around when we were at Sellout. We would never got back imho.12 -
This forum is not all sweetness and light mind you. However it is the Charlton fans site that is the most multifarious and has an internal richness for that reason.KBslittlesis said:All I’m seeing on repeat is a group on Twitter quite literally hate this forum and vice versa.
It’s utterly childish and pathetic.I’m so grateful social media wasn’t around when we were at Sellout. We would never got back imho.
The owner and moderators have their work cut out trying to be consistent and even handed.
I would certainly know that, being banned on the House of Commoners seemingly for all time, and having been banned on the main platform for a while.
The owner and moderators are not obliged to explain their decisions, nor are they obliged to be consistent.
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Yes, I saw that a credible consortium was looking at us but that doesn't fit with the narrative that TS is skint or he is trying to sell because I am sure he would snap their hands off if he could offload at reasonable price.seth plum said:I am not on Twitter or Facebook and the like. The shorthand and those websites make no sense to me.
However I get the impression from the Sandgaard critics that there are several ‘better’ people and groups waiting to pour money into the club, but Sandgaard is stopping them.
Would it help the credibility of the critics to identify all those with money who are waiting?
As for Sandgaard getting some things wrong, of course he has, but is that supposed to mean that now all bets are off?0 -
Slating the owners or the moaners ?robroy said:
Pointless having the discussion, everyone is hell bent on slating them regardless.Scoham said:
What were the good points?robroy said:I listened and there was actually some good points made. They do mean well.It’s getting trendy just to slate them now.
I read a tweet that some were banging on about the divide in the fan base but wouldn’t allow anyone to challenge their views!0 -
Self-appointed important people.PWADDICK said:Currently listening to the most ridiculous conversation on twitter
Fans trying to make themselves an authority for no reason is sad.14 -
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I wonder what the cross-section is between the people who used to abuse Airman for apparently wanting the spotlight when he was working - with stated and shared evidence - to expose Roland, and the people who now complain about every move Sandgaard makes and call him a charlatan after ESI left their lives.SELR_addicks said:
Self-appointed important people.PWADDICK said:Currently listening to the most ridiculous conversation on twitter
Fans trying to make themselves an authority for no reason is sad.
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There’s a group that are a living, breathing contradiction when it comes to Charlton.3
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Noticed that myself, some were very anti protest and CARD. They warned others of what might go wrong if they push RD too far. For whatever reason they see TS as a far bigger threat to the club’s future than RD.Garrymanilow said:
I wonder what the cross-section is between the people who used to abuse Airman for apparently wanting the spotlight when he was working - with stated and shared evidence - to expose Roland, and the people who now complain about every move Sandgaard makes and call him a charlatan after ESI left their lives.SELR_addicks said:
Self-appointed important people.PWADDICK said:Currently listening to the most ridiculous conversation on twitter
Fans trying to make themselves an authority for no reason is sad.3 -
and they can take your flags away without any explanation, Outrageous !!!!seth plum said:
This forum is not all sweetness and light mind you. However it is the Charlton fans site that is the most multifarious and has an internal richness for that reason.KBslittlesis said:All I’m seeing on repeat is a group on Twitter quite literally hate this forum and vice versa.
It’s utterly childish and pathetic.I’m so grateful social media wasn’t around when we were at Sellout. We would never got back imho.
The owner and moderators have their work cut out trying to be consistent and even handed.
I would certainly know that, being banned on the House of Commoners seemingly for all time, and having been banned on the main platform for a while.
The owner and moderators are not obliged to explain their decisions, nor are they obliged to be consistent.4
