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It was umpires call, so it wouldn't have been a terrible review, but Crawley marched off0
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So instead of destroying the confidence of our young spinners we’ve decided to destroy the confidence of our young openers instead. Must be time to drop Crawley now. A real shame as I’m a big fan of his, I just think his England call up came a couple of years too early.0
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It’s almost as bad as Jonny bairstow attempting to sweep off the second ball of a test match, surviving an appeal, and then getting bowled playing a sweep the next ball when we were touring IndiaAddick Addict said:That was really muddled thinking from Crawley. You put pressure on the spinner by being aggressive in order to get him out of the attack. The sweep is, in itself, a risk/reward shot, but even if he had been successful in forcing Maharaj off, what would happen next? The seamers would be back with a relatively new ball too.0 -
The difference with Lees sweeping is that he is getting himself outside the line of the ball so can't be out LBW if he misses it. Crawley tried to sweep stump to stump.1
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Can't disagree with that and in a former era neither would be anywhere near the Test side. In defence of Lees I would, perhaps, argue that this is his 16th innings whereas Crawley has has 48 and as they share the same poor average of 26, the latter really has to go first.killerandflash said:Yes it was a decent opening partnership, but some massively OTT praise by the England management for Crawley's 46. England won that India game because Root and Bairstow put on an unbeaten 269!
Lees gets a life. He's lucky that Crawley is getting all the media attention as his England record is uninspiring also.0 -
Agreed, but the pressure will move to him once Zak gets droppedAddick Addict said:
Can't disagree with that and in a former era neither would be anywhere near the Test side. In defence of Lees I would, perhaps, argue that this is his 16th innings whereas Crawley has has 48 and as they share the same poor average of 26, the latter really has to go first.killerandflash said:Yes it was a decent opening partnership, but some massively OTT praise by the England management for Crawley's 46. England won that India game because Root and Bairstow put on an unbeaten 269!
Lees gets a life. He's lucky that Crawley is getting all the media attention as his England record is uninspiring also.0 -
That was a proper 3rd XI teammate-is-the-umpire original decision0
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38-2 so England ahead of my prediction...killerandflash said:And the cloud cover has come back, just in time for England to collapse to 30-3
Except that S Africa got both wickets from their spinner. Surely they should be banging it in short?2 -
So who are the next two cabs off the rank in the Opening Positions ?0
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Keaton Jennings and Rory Burns to return?billysboots said:So who are the next two cabs off the rank in the Opening Positions ?0 -
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Burns, not Jennings .. and Maharaj is a very good bowler as he showed in the one dayerskillerandflash said:
Keaton Jennings and Rory Burns to return?billysboots said:So who are the next two cabs off the rank in the Opening Positions ?0 -
Good god, no.killerandflash said:
Keaton Jennings and Rory Burns to return?billysboots said:So who are the next two cabs off the rank in the Opening Positions ?1 -
Time for Crawley to go..0
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Zak Crawley is only the third male player in Test history - and only specialist batter - to have a high score that is more than 10x his batting average. Out of 3,093 men to play test crocket since 1877, only Crawley, Wasim Akram and Jason Gillespie are in this club. Two other players in this match - Jimmy Anderson and Stuart Broad just miss out.2
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You can't expect CC matches in the middle of August. We can't even have Ashes Tests during that period under the current regime.blackpool72 said:2 -
Bowling full length balls is cheating imho which is why we don't do it. It's worse than using sandpaper on the ball.2
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That was a truly awful shot from Foakes0
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a nothing, pointless shot that from foakes. Another who might be starting to feel the pressure.0
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I mean, there's an argument for dropping Crawley, Lees, Foakes, or whoever. But unless there are other, better players to bring in, wouldn't we be better off going with a full eleven?blackpool72 said:0 -
we have lost 16 wickets in 72 overs during this game. That is 27 balls per wicket - utterly pathetic.0
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All over by tonight. Might even be all over by tea (4.10pm).
Cant be many Test matches all over inside 3 days when 2 sessions were completely wiped out by rain.0 -
I've never known a Test match where we haven't gone in with a full eleven.Chizz said:
I mean, there's an argument for dropping Crawley, Lees, Foakes, or whoever. But unless there are other, better players to bring in, wouldn't we be better off going with a full eleven?blackpool72 said:
You don't know if there are better until you've tried them and it didn't stop us from playing Crawley when he has a First Class average of less than 30. There also comes a point where, mentally, you are doing more harm than good to the player to keep playing him.0 -
If you bowl straight and with a bit of pace oh and maybe bowl at the wooden things the BATSMAN is prorecting you might get lucky and get a wicket or 2...And not bouncers at a bowler who averages 6 in test cricket.Absolute pathetic by England this morning.We seriously need some pace in the team.How long before Archer is fit and maybe to early for Ollie Robinson although he has played some form of cricket since the last test more than what Anderson and Broad have.Hopetully a little blip but we have been outclassed by a bang average south Africa team.0
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We have been outclassed but I wouldn't call this South African side "bang average". Only India and Australia are ranked above them.greenwichred68 said:If you bowl straight and with a bit of pace oh and maybe bowl at the wooden things the BATSMAN is prorecting you might get lucky and get a wicket or 2...And not bouncers at a bowler who averages 6 in test cricket.Absolute pathetic by England this morning.We seriously need some pace in the team.How long before Archer is fit and maybe to early for Ollie Robinson although he has played some form of cricket since the last test more than what Anderson and Broad have.Hopetully a little blip but we have been outclassed by a bang average south Africa team.0 -
i mean, this was literally the england selector's thinking in the 90s and it led to some utter car crashes, with individuals that should've been nowhere near the test team got caps. It's easy to see why crawley got called up when you watch him bat and his age. But there gets a point where his confidence is shot.Addick Addict said:
I've never known a Test match where we haven't gone in with a full eleven.Chizz said:
I mean, there's an argument for dropping Crawley, Lees, Foakes, or whoever. But unless there are other, better players to bring in, wouldn't we be better off going with a full eleven?blackpool72 said:
You don't know if there are better until you've tried them and it didn't stop us from playing Crawley when he has a First Class average of less than 30. There also comes a point where, mentally, you are doing more harm than good to the player to keep playing him.0 -
I agree with you. So, which player improves the team and squad?Addick Addict said:
I've never known a Test match where we haven't gone in with a full eleven.Chizz said:
I mean, there's an argument for dropping Crawley, Lees, Foakes, or whoever. But unless there are other, better players to bring in, wouldn't we be better off going with a full eleven?blackpool72 said:
You don't know if there are better until you've tried them and it didn't stop us from playing Crawley when he has a First Class average of less than 30. There also comes a point where, mentally, you are doing more harm than good to the player to keep playing him.0 -
So you agree that after 48 innings we should drop Crawley? I don't believe I recommended wholesale changes.kentaddick said:
i mean, this was literally the england selector's thinking in the 90s and it led to some utter car crashes, with individuals that should've been nowhere near the test team got caps. It's easy to see why crawley got called up when you watch him bat and his age. But there gets a point where his confidence is shot.Addick Addict said:
I've never known a Test match where we haven't gone in with a full eleven.Chizz said:
I mean, there's an argument for dropping Crawley, Lees, Foakes, or whoever. But unless there are other, better players to bring in, wouldn't we be better off going with a full eleven?blackpool72 said:
You don't know if there are better until you've tried them and it didn't stop us from playing Crawley when he has a First Class average of less than 30. There also comes a point where, mentally, you are doing more harm than good to the player to keep playing him.0 -
Good to see England are considering those travelling by some sort of train service tomorrow.2
