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Managerial sackings, comings and goings

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  • Michael O'Neill has been sacked as Stoke City manager.
    They've had a poor start following 2 very average couple of years in charge, so he can't have too many complaints
  • Sunderland boss Alex Neil has held talks with fellow Championship side Stoke City over their vacant managerial position.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62689409
  • clive said:
    Sunderland boss Alex Neil has held talks with fellow Championship side Stoke City over their vacant managerial position.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62689409
    they must be offering a shedload of Free Sex Foive cash to think they can entice him away .. Surely Sunderland is the bigger more progressive club even though Stoke has a great history, stadium etc ?
  • Strange one. Must be financially driven as swapping probably one mid table club to another. More likely for Stoke to go down than back to top flight any time soon.
  • Didn't see that coming. Reporters are saying Alex Neil felt he wasn't backed financially by the Sunderland owners during the transfer window.
  • I suppose he could be using Stoke to get what he wants from Sunderland.
  • I suppose he could be using Stoke to get what he wants from Sunderland.
    Alex Neil always comes across as a pretty smart guy and I'm pretty sure this must be his motivation. No disrespect to Stoke but as a neutral Sunderland are surely a much bigger club in almost every aspect. 

    Wouldn't be surprised at all if he's just leveraging the offer from Stoke to get a better contract and/or some more backing in the transfer market.
  • Makes no sense to jump from Sunderland atm imo ( sorry @bobmunro )
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  • Is Sunderland's ownership situation all sorted out now? Because there was a point where Kyril Louis-Dreyfus only had about 29% of the club and wasn't going to invest heavily until he got more of the club from Stewart Donald. 

    Stoke seem to always back their managers well with signings - be interesting to see how Liam Delap does there on loan from Man City. 

    I can see why Alex Neil has gone there but it's very odd timing. 
  • bobmunro said:
    I suppose he could be using Stoke to get what he wants from Sunderland.
    Alex Neil always comes across as a pretty smart guy and I'm pretty sure this must be his motivation. No disrespect to Stoke but as a neutral Sunderland are surely a much bigger club in almost every aspect. 

    Wouldn't be surprised at all if he's just leveraging the offer from Stoke to get a better contract and/or some more backing in the transfer market.
    I say the following with the caveat that I have absolutely no idea at the moment who the next manager is likely to be (and I wouldn't say if I did, for obvious reasons!).

    Yes and no. Sunderland have a richer history of success but the last of their six top division titles was in 1936! They do still of course have a passionate and very large local fan base.

    Financial stability, very wealthy long-term owners who are fans and who have no plans whatsoever to desert the club, and who back every manager financially within FFP limits. A top tier stadium and training ground thrown in as well. All things being considered and in the current football climate I would say Stoke City are a much better placed club.  
    Except it's in Stoke  :D
  • bobmunro said:
    I suppose he could be using Stoke to get what he wants from Sunderland.
    Alex Neil always comes across as a pretty smart guy and I'm pretty sure this must be his motivation. No disrespect to Stoke but as a neutral Sunderland are surely a much bigger club in almost every aspect. 

    Wouldn't be surprised at all if he's just leveraging the offer from Stoke to get a better contract and/or some more backing in the transfer market.
    I say the following with the caveat that I have absolutely no idea at the moment who the next manager is likely to be (and I wouldn't say if I did, for obvious reasons!).

    Yes and no. Sunderland have a richer history of success but the last of their six top division titles was in 1936! They do still of course have a passionate and very large local fan base.

    Financial stability, very wealthy long-term owners who are fans and who have no plans whatsoever to desert the club, and who back every manager financially within FFP limits. A top tier stadium and training ground thrown in as well. All things being considered and in the current football climate I would say Stoke City are a much better placed club.  
    Except it's in Stoke  :D

    There are downsides, of course.
  • Jack Ross could be in trouble. Thrashed 9-0 at home to Celtic today & last 4 games have let in 23 goals.  
  • AndyG said:
    Makes no sense to jump from Sunderland atm imo ( sorry @bobmunro )
    He was on a rolling one year contract at Sunderland. Stoke have given him a 3 year deal and i'm sure he will be on more money than he was on at Sunderland as well.

    Beyond the fact that Sunderland have a big fanbase, do they have much else going for them over Stoke? 
  • As laughable as when Charlton fans thought we could lure Eddie Howe

    Where is this sudden entitlement coming from in Fans
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  • As laughable as when Charlton fans thought we could lure Eddie Howe

    Where is this sudden entitlement coming from in Fans
    In this case I think it's just social media highlighting a more extreme view.
  • Tony Mowbray seems to be the favourite for the Sunderland job. Did a decent job at Blackburn, and from the northeast, though being a Smoggie might be an issue!
  • Has Mendonca got his coaching badge....?
  • Rochdale have appointed former Morecambe boss Jim Bentley as manager on a two-year deal.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62713373
  • Quite disrespectful. He went to the Stoke v Blackburn game while still contracted by Sunderland.
  • Is he not allowed a social life then?

    Maybe he also played golf or went to the pictures or watched some cricket.
  • iaitch said:
    Is he not allowed a social life then?

    Maybe he also played golf or went to the pictures or watched some cricket.
    There's a big difference in having a social
    life than going to watch a game of football where one of the teams playing are in talks with you regarding the vacancy when you are still under contract with another team, a team that are also playing that day versus going to the cinema.

    but I think you know that and are just deliberately being awkward.
  • edited August 2022
    Ok Sunderland played on Saturday lunchtime, according to the BBC website 'The Black Cats were without manager Alex Neil, with the Scot on the verge of taking the vacant job at Stoke City'.

    So Sunderland knew he was going so why should that stop him looking at his new team?
     
  • Scotty boy,  you OK hun?  
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