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God Save Our Queen - Funeral will be Mon 19th September (p26)
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I heard Nicholas Soams (the grandson of Winston Churchill) speaking on the radio. I Thought he added a great historical perspective to the Queen's reign.
Most of us - including himself - have only ever known one Monarch, but his grandfather was born during Queen Victoria's reign and lived through Edward VII, George V, Edward VIII and George VI's reigns before serving as Prime Minister under the young Queen Elizabeth II. To stress the passage of time he pointed out that his grandfather actually took part in a cavalry charge on horseback, carrying a sword, in the battle of Omdurman in 1898.
He then told a story that he'd never told before. Apparently, Churchill held a small informal dinner in number 10 the night before he was deposed in 1955. Queen Elizabeth was present and although it had been agreed there were to be no toasts, still stood up near the end, raised her glass and said, 'To my Prime Minister'. He returned the complement in full, the mutual respect between the two was absolute.
I guess the experience of Churchill must have been invaluable to Elizabeth in the early part of her reign. We'll never really know what the Queen thought of her subsequent Prime Ministers - such are the confines of the job. I personally doubt Elizabeth would have ever raised her glass to Boris though, especially after his 5 week prorogation of Parliament, which put her in such an invidious position.6 -
Raith_C_Chattonell said:I heard Nicholas Soams (the grandson of Winston Churchill) speaking on the radio. I Thought he added a great historical perspective to the Queen's reign.
Most of us - including himself - have only ever known one Monarch, but his grandfather was born during Queen Victoria's reign and lived through Edward VII, George V, Edward VIII and George VI's reigns before serving as Prime Minister under the young Queen Elizabeth II. To stress the passage of time he pointed out that his grandfather actually took part in a cavalry charge on horseback, carrying a sword, in the battle of Omdurman in 1898.
He then told a story that he'd never told before. Apparently, Churchill held a small informal dinner in number 10 the night before he was deposed in 1955. Queen Elizabeth was present and although it had been agreed there were to be no toasts, still stood up near the end, raised her glass and said, 'To my Prime Minister'. He returned the complement in full, the mutual respect between the two was absolute.
I guess the experience of Churchill must have been invaluable to Elizabeth in the early part of her reign. We'll never really know what the Queen thought of her subsequent Prime Ministers - such are the confines of the job. I personally doubt Elizabeth would have ever raised her glass to Boris though, especially after his 5 week prorogation of Parliament, which put her in such an invidious position.0 -
RIP HM Queen Elizabeth : mother , grandmother , great grandmother; a women of deep faith ; a monarch respected globally and a public servant with no equal
I am not a keen monarchist but feel the loss to the country is so great , not least because of the sorry state of public service in our national political life. The difference in attitude and application is stark5 -
It is hard to reflect on a moment in history in just a few hours.
We all hopefully have some constants in our lives which provides us with anchor points from which to grow. One such anchor has been lost.
To be such a huge mainstay of the stability of a nation through an extraordinary period in our history and in an ever changing world it is hard to imagine, for someone so dedicated to a life of service, a life could have possibly been better lived.None of us is perfect. We are all human and on occasion will find ourselves out of step with others. Her steadfastness in those difficult moments in life, no matter one’s wealth, shone through with a hugely engaging sense of humility and humanity.
With enormous respect for your dedicated and profoundly wise contribution to the lives of the people of the United Kingdom and many others in the world - thank you. May you rest in peace.
The world is a poorer place for your passing.25 -
A proper class act who’ll be missed RIP
Good luck King Charles lll .2 -
It feels incredibly strange not to have the Queen with us anymore. She barely put a foot wrong in her life and seems to have commanded respect from so many.
She had enormous dignity and a sense of duty which she kept to the end.
She deserves a good rest.
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Already posted on here soon after the announcement,now the morning after when the reality is setting in,I feel there is a gaping hole in my life left by this wonderful ladies passing.Her ability to always say the right things,treat everyone with respect ,and lift our country in the most testing of times was incredible.She was held in awe by fellow world leaders.I remember when she met Putin some years ago.it is the only time I have seen him look uncomfortable and a bit star struck.Charles has a hard act to follow,but with the help of most of his family he will be fine.4
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It feels a little odd to say RIP the Queen, like it doesn't look right on the screen. I feel kind of awkward even commenting as I'm against the idea of monarchy as an institution, but still respect the Queen for her role and for reminding us what service looks like. I think this will end up being quite a pivotal moment, for us as a country, because one of the things that has been constant has been the Queen. Reading people's personal tributes has made me quite emotional, and one thing to take from this is it doesn't matter how important she was to us individually, collectively she was important to a lot of us and that demands respect.
RIP the Queen5 -
RIP Your Majesty1
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Huskaris said:johnnybev1987 said:MuttleyCAFC said:She hasn't died yet. Of course we can take it she is seriously ill and at her age the day will come sooner rather than later but it doesn't mean it will be today, this month or this year.
*worst i told you so ever, sad day yesterday RIP HM The Queen2 -
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Our Queen of my life time. God bless you. Rest in Peace your Majesty.1
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I recall when I was young there were a fair number of coins with the king's head on them. And I was born in 1964, 12 years after the coronation. I don't recall any notes to be fair but they don't last as long. Of course what happened then and what happens now may not be the same but there needn't be a rush to change the currency, just newly produced ones. It will be nice to have her face around day to day life for some time to come yet.4
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North Lower Neil said:Wonder if there's ever been a new monarch and Prime Minister in the same week before?
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Swindon_Addick said:North Lower Neil said:Wonder if there's ever been a new monarch and Prime Minister in the same week before?
Seems so strange to start the week with a Queen and one PM, and end it with a King and a different one.
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RIP Ma’am1
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MuttleyCAFC said:I recall when I was young there were a fair number of coins with the king's head on them. And I was born in 1964, 12 years after the coronation. I don't recall any notes to be fair but they don't last as long. Of course what happened then and what happens now may not be the same but there needn't be a rush to change the currency, just newly produced ones. It will be nice to have her face around day to day life for some time to come yet.0
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That's right, going decimal would have been a reason we lost a lot, but it was the 10ps I remember and there were a fair number of those around when I was young.1
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RIP Your Majesty. Dutiful to the end.5 -
Plymouth Hoe this morningThe flagpoles usually each have a different countries flag.9
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RIP Your Majesty
very strange sadness to this i feel.
God save the King1 -
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Like a lot of people have said, I'm not a monarchist and have been a bit surprised at how strongly I've reacted to this. Whatever I may think of the concept of having monarchs with actual power, in practice there was a lot to admire about the actual person.
One thing I found very striking yesterday evening on Twitter was the sheer number of other countries that were marking her passing. Not just the Commonwealth, but places like France, the US and Ireland. Ireland in particular - so much bad history between the two countries, and that state visit she made was such a big step forward.5 -
Chris_from_Sidcup said:Just reading some of the things from her life which put into context just how long she reigned for.
Churchill was PM when she became Queen.
We had 15 PM's in her time.
She met 13 US Presidents, including JFK.
12 French Presidents.
Only reigning monarch to visit Australia.
She got a wedding present from Gandhi.
She met Marilyn Monroe and Charlie Chaplin.
The Beatles performed for her.1 -
Swindon_Addick said:MuttleyCAFC said:I recall when I was young there were a fair number of coins with the king's head on them. And I was born in 1964, 12 years after the coronation. I don't recall any notes to be fair but they don't last as long. Of course what happened then and what happens now may not be the same but there needn't be a rush to change the currency, just newly produced ones. It will be nice to have her face around day to day life for some time to come yet.
I was buying school dinners in 1989 with two shilling bits.2 -
SporadicAddick said:Swindon_Addick said:MuttleyCAFC said:I recall when I was young there were a fair number of coins with the king's head on them. And I was born in 1964, 12 years after the coronation. I don't recall any notes to be fair but they don't last as long. Of course what happened then and what happens now may not be the same but there needn't be a rush to change the currency, just newly produced ones. It will be nice to have her face around day to day life for some time to come yet.
I was buying school dinners in 1989 with two shilling bits.0 -
RIP Your Majesty.
Thank you for your dedication to us.
It was an honour to serve you.I heard the confirmation (already knew) whilst in a small pub. I was a little worried that some may make comments I wouldn’t be able to handle. I need not have worried. All were very respectful.
God save The King!5 -
A slightly trivial point, but is anyone else dreading the next time they need to sing the national anthem, due to the near-certainty of getting the words wrong? Or is that just me?6
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Swindon_Addick said:A slightly trivial point, but is anyone else dreading the next time they need to sing the national anthem, due to the near-certainty of getting the words wrong? Or is that just me?3
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cafctom said:Swindon_Addick said:A slightly trivial point, but is anyone else dreading the next time they need to sing the national anthem, due to the near-certainty of getting the words wrong? Or is that just me?5
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Swindon_Addick said:A slightly trivial point, but is anyone else dreading the next time they need to sing the national anthem, due to the near-certainty of getting the words wrong? Or is that just me?2
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cafctom said:Swindon_Addick said:A slightly trivial point, but is anyone else dreading the next time they need to sing the national anthem, due to the near-certainty of getting the words wrong? Or is that just me?22