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POST-MATCH THREAD: PORT VALE V CHARLTON ATHLETIC / SATURDAY 19th NOVEMBER 2022 3.00pm KO
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It started in August.RedPanda said:I can't wait for our World Cup break.5 -
I'm with you on that. Probably not this season but since relegation 3 seasons ago we are getting worse & worse. If something doesn't change soon then League 2 is a great possibility.bolloxbolder said:Said on here before but things are so bad I can see us in Div 2 in a couple of years.
So depressing.2 -
Jesus man, take some accountability yourself. From watching the stream I'd say there was only one team looking to score..... and it wasn't us.LouisMend said:
I said on the match thread that their midfielders actually looked like they wanted to run with the ball & make something happen. PV might not have created much more than us but they looked more threatening when they had the ball. There's no point us having 65% of the ball if all we are going to do with it is pass it around the back 5. We have got to be quicker with it & more direct. Need to use the pace of JRS & CBT & get decent balls into the box. Sess was our best player & he at least tried running at them & getting some crosses in.3 -
I don't get the Garner defence. The WHOLE team look absolutely shocking.2
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My theory is that McGrandles was added before the owner decided to stop spending. If this is true, then obviously Garner was told lies. Why is that my theory? Well we had enough midfielders at that time and we surely wouldn't be adding to them if we had to lose players to bring players in, in positions where we were very short, which is obviously what the situation was at the end of the window.1
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Are we any better off than this time 12 months ago? League position is exactly the same now as it was then as is the points total (Plus one extra this season)
I’ve lost track on how many comments Garner has made re budgets, recruitment etc. It won’t make the blindest bit of difference. You have had the wool
pulled over your eyes like the rest of us, so it’s either case of jacking it in or trying to make the best of what you have available to you.
Maybe he did Jackson a favour, the owner4 -
I think with two or three good additions we would be one of the best in the league. We will give Brighton a good game because they will try to beat us. I know Port Vale and Mk Dons tried a bit but not really that much, they merely stopped us as a priority and allowed us to beat ourselves. That isn't a criticism of them, it is absolutely the best way to play about us because despite us scoring some goals recently, we are rubbish at breaking through mildly competent packed defences. Accrington played very negatively for a home side against us too, but we fortunately managed to draw that.2
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With Jackson here now we would be worse off. Factshirty5 said:Are we any better off than this time 12 months ago? League position is exactly the same now as it was then as is the points total (Plus one extra this season)
I’ve lost track on how many comments Garner has made re budgets, recruitment etc. It won’t make the blindest bit of difference. You have had the wool
pulled over your eyes like the rest of us, so it’s either case of jacking it in or trying to make the best of what you have available to you.
Maybe he did Jackson a favour, the owner7 -
Woeful. Not one player came out of it with credit except maybe AMB.
We just watched PV. Didn’t lay a glove on them. You can be shit but lack of urgency and effort as a professional footballer is unforgivable. We were also cowardly. JRS constantly turning back to Clare who I thought had a total stinker.And as much as Stockley is a good guy, he’s playing the worse football of his career with us. Can’t hold it up, head it, pass or shoot. Should be rested but we can’t bank on Chuks.
This season is a cup run then. Bomb out of those three in the next rounds and it’s going to feel a very long year following this lot0 -
Possibly but stating it’s a fact, well who knows.king addick said:
With Jackson here now we would be worse off. Factshirty5 said:Are we any better off than this time 12 months ago? League position is exactly the same now as it was then as is the points total (Plus one extra this season)
I’ve lost track on how many comments Garner has made re budgets, recruitment etc. It won’t make the blindest bit of difference. You have had the wool
pulled over your eyes like the rest of us, so it’s either case of jacking it in or trying to make the best of what you have available to you.
Maybe he did Jackson a favour, the owner7 - Sponsored links:
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I don't blame Garner. I think he could be a good manager for us but he needs a bit of support. Basically we started the season offensively with Stockley and a hope that an unproven kid could support him alongside a decent striker who when fit cant play more than 30 minutes. Is that Garner's fault or Sandgaard's fault? To me it is obviously Sandgaard's fault.2
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Well, it looks things might come to a head sooner than we thought....in an unedifying shit-slinging competition involving people at the club scrambling to blame each other for the festering pile of toss that our once great club has become.
At least we have the upcoming festival of football humanity in the desert to restore some dignity to the beautiful game and take our minds off things....LOL2 -
Granted fact might be strong but looking where Afc are in L2 its a strong possibility.shirty5 said:
Possibly but stating it’s a fact, well who knows.king addick said:
With Jackson here now we would be worse off. Factshirty5 said:Are we any better off than this time 12 months ago? League position is exactly the same now as it was then as is the points total (Plus one extra this season)
I’ve lost track on how many comments Garner has made re budgets, recruitment etc. It won’t make the blindest bit of difference. You have had the wool
pulled over your eyes like the rest of us, so it’s either case of jacking it in or trying to make the best of what you have available to you.
Maybe he did Jackson a favour, the owner0 -
We needed to score first, which would have made them open up more, they just parked the bus from the off and waited for us to give them the ball, which we were only too pleased to do, we just had no idea how to break down the white wall in front of us, it was embarrassing and annoying to watch.
Why Ben didn't change things up at half time is beyond belief, but it was more of the same, with sadly the inevitable result of them taking another gift to score a well taken goal, once more against a non existent defence, January can't come soon enough and a time to hopefully clear out the shite and get some players in who want to play for the shirt...🤞🤞🤞
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Lets get Gunter, Matthews and Gilbey back!shirty5 said:Are we any better off than this time 12 months ago? League position is exactly the same now as it was then as is the points total (Plus one extra this season)
I’ve lost track on how many comments Garner has made re budgets, recruitment etc. It won’t make the blindest bit of difference. You have had the wool
pulled over your eyes like the rest of us, so it’s either case of jacking it in or trying to make the best of what you have available to you.
Maybe he did Jackson a favour, the owner
Jackson is currently in a midtable League Two side with the likes of Gunter and Davison.
We played pub football last season, no thank you to round two of that stuff.2 -
What Garner has done by making the comments he has post match is try to put pressure on Sandgaard to act in January. It is risky as it puts his job in jeopardy but it has to be done. I understand why it wasn't but it should have been done in the summer. The problem is what I have been saying as long as I can remember, Sandgaard knows nothing about football but thinks he knows everything. You don't have to know more than find a decent manager, which he has done I think with Garner with a great deal of fortune, and then support him as well as you can.
He has thrown money away recklessly and then not spent when it was essential to do so. If you add up the total he has put in since he has come in you probably can't complain but the fact is, he is a football idiot and I can't see how he will change.10 -
Wimbledon and Charlton are in similar positions in their divisions, but they're one of the form teams and rising up the table.king addick said:
Granted fact might be strong but looking where Afc are in L2 its a strong possibility.shirty5 said:
Possibly but stating it’s a fact, well who knows.king addick said:
With Jackson here now we would be worse off. Factshirty5 said:Are we any better off than this time 12 months ago? League position is exactly the same now as it was then as is the points total (Plus one extra this season)
I’ve lost track on how many comments Garner has made re budgets, recruitment etc. It won’t make the blindest bit of difference. You have had the wool
pulled over your eyes like the rest of us, so it’s either case of jacking it in or trying to make the best of what you have available to you.
Maybe he did Jackson a favour, the owner
Not saying I want Jacko back btw, but good to see things improving for him there.3 -
Another one who’s missed my point. I’ve not said get Jackson back., but the owner probably did him a favour by letting him go.SELR_addicks said:
Lets get Gunter, Matthews and Gilbey back!shirty5 said:Are we any better off than this time 12 months ago? League position is exactly the same now as it was then as is the points total (Plus one extra this season)
I’ve lost track on how many comments Garner has made re budgets, recruitment etc. It won’t make the blindest bit of difference. You have had the wool
pulled over your eyes like the rest of us, so it’s either case of jacking it in or trying to make the best of what you have available to you.
Maybe he did Jackson a favour, the owner
Jackson is currently in a midtable League Two side with the likes of Gunter and Davison.
We played pub football last season, no thank you to round two of that stuff.
Garner or whoever is always going to have difficulties with what they have to work with.7 -
Behave.Off_it said:Thing is Benny boy, WE expected different from YOU when you joined the club as well.
So just get on with doing your job and stop whining like a child.
He's been shafted by banjo boy.
The buck stops with Sandgaard21 - Sponsored links:
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Spot on mate. Back Garner properly and he’ll get us out of this division.SELR_addicks said:Yet again people pointing fingers at the wrong person.
It is not Garner's fault he is stuck with Stockley as his only striker.
It is not Garner's fault he is stuck with Lavelle as our defensive cover.
It is not Garner's fault that he only has 5/6 decent players in his entire squad and outside of that they're barely lower League one level.
Look at the scouting department and TS specifically for the reason why we have dross like Lavelle, Stockley, Jaiyesimi, Gilbey and a bunch of kids to run a side with.5 -
Didn’t watch today but based on previous games I’ve seen it would help if he actually appeared to be trying, stopped throwing his arms around in a strop all the time and stopped blaming his teammates for everything. And Captain? What a joke.MuttleyCAFC said:I have said many times, I saw this with Stockley at Preston. He is playing by numbers and needs a break. We know he is better than this but it isn't helping him playing in a system that doesn't suit him with zero confidence. But there are not any options but to start him!2 -
Is Simon Church available?2
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A few folk saying AMB had no chance with the goal.He dives too parallel to the goal, an angular dive to cover the far post properly and he would have got it.Basic goalkeeping stuff, but with 3 defenders in front of him letting a striker get a shot away - the problems are much deeper than ANB positioning.64% possession and only 1 shot on target tells the story - failing tactics by a group who are not that bothered. Another year in this poxy division looks a certainty unless Garner faces reality and starts CBT and Chucks instead of the under-achieving Kirk and hopeless Stockley.Harsh words but the facts and stats don’t lie.Mid table
Can’t beat low quality teams
One away win
Bad discipline
9 goals conceded in the last 3 games
etc etc etc.2 -
Shirley TempleSouthallAddick said:Is Simon Church available?0 -
Lavelle wasn't as bad today as he was last week but that's three games running that a forward has run at him, gotten a shot away and scored0
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AMB had a good game and should take no blame at all for the goal, totally let down by the disappearing defence in front of him..1
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Exactlyblackpool72 said:
Behave.Off_it said:Thing is Benny boy, WE expected different from YOU when you joined the club as well.
So just get on with doing your job and stop whining like a child.
He's been shafted by banjo boy.
The buck stops with Sandgaard2 -
We are shit but I really hope the fans don’t turn on Garner. A good man and a good manager. He’s just operating with both hands tied behind his back12
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So TS is right that we had a top six budget, a bigger budget than last season too just that he hasn’t let Ben have access to it. Time will tell if anything changes in January spending wise but I just can’t see it. TS will probably instead decide its Ben’s fault and the merry go round starts again. Nothing will essentially change until TS leaves. Ben is right in what he said above.Cafc43v3r said:
I am a massive fan of Garner but he is either going to talk himself into the sack or lose the dressing room if he isn't careful. The latter will obviously lead to the former.LouisMend said:0
