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Peter Varney asking for big crowd for Brighton match (Potential Buyers?)
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Perhaps you should read what I said rather than keep endlessly repeating yourself. I can't make it much simpler for you.DOUCHER said:
i'll give it one more go - they can do due dilligence and come to a live game!! its not one or the other - strewthhoof_it_up_to_benty said:
It hardly suggests they have any interest in football or our club if they're going to be swayed that much by a fixture against Brighton.DOUCHER said:
it wouldn't make him clueless - we're not trying to trick him, just give him a good first impression - not that difficult to understand really is it?hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
If the investor is really as clueless as you're suggesting then why on earth would you want them taking over?DOUCHER said:It’s really not about the money I’d say, it’s about the experience - if I was going to plough sone money in I’d want to know that I was gonna be sitting in a lively atmospheric stadium every other week, not an empty, soulless place - we know what it can be like but an investor from wherever may not - it’s worth a £15 gamble and getting off your arse for a few hours rather than impotently moaning on and on surely ???
Maybe they could try attending a few league games instead?
We don't need another clown in charge.
It's not hard to do a bit of due diligence if you're serious. They could watch the Stockport game on ITV4 and come to a league match.
I don't want another owner in charge who is clueless about L1 football.
It would suggest they were serious if PV was bigging up their attendance at a league fixture rather than a fairly pointless fixture against Brighton.
The whole thing sounds a bit tinpot in my opinion.
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That can be pointed out to them without us attending.MuttleyCAFC said:
If I was Peter Varney sitting next to him I would explain that the owner is a complete, incompetent basket case and that a new owner would quickly get a strong grateful fanbase behind him, pointing to the 2019 play offs as an example of what is possible.clb74 said:
If I was the prospective buyer and there was 14000 home fans I'd want to know why they didn't bother for the Stockport home gameCovered End said:
If a potential new owner is at the Brighton game, is he more likely to be interested in buying Charlton if -SELR_addicks said:
Not really, I just think it's a pretty meaningless gesture that only really benefits Sandgaard who will pocket the extra income.Croydon said:
I feel like you're just using any excuse you can not to go at this pointSELR_addicks said:More important than ever to line the pockets of an owner taking us into the ground?
I would hope any potential owner would just watch a video of the play off final if they want to see our potential.
Any intelligent potential owner doesn't make a decision based from a few extra thousand in a ground during a game while the club is at their lowest point in years.
1 There are 14,000 Charlton fans & 6,000 Brighton fans, making a 20,000 crowd and great atmosphere.
2 There are 6,000 Charlton fans & 6,000 Brighton fans.
The Brighton fans out sing Charlton all match & it is largely a great embarrassment to Charlton.
Edit - obviously I don't mean a potential owner is so thick they would buy us solely because of this.
I mean if they have done plenty of research and are keen, but have nagging doubts whether the support has been totally lost or can return very quickly, from let's be honest the @6,000 or so of us that turn up every game.0 -
their not going to a league fixture, their going to the brighton game and varney wants it to be a decent atmosphere - they can read all the stats in the world about our league attendances and the revenue etc etc - this isn't about that - its about sitting in a stadium and experiencing the atmosphere - that is not difficult to understand- i understand completely what you are saying but you are completely missing the point - hopefully you will understand in the morning - goodnighthoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Perhaps you should read what I said rather than keep endlessly repeating yourself. I can't make it much simpler for you.DOUCHER said:
i'll give it one more go - they can do due dilligence and come to a live game!! its not one or the other - strewthhoof_it_up_to_benty said:
It hardly suggests they have any interest in football or our club if they're going to be swayed that much by a fixture against Brighton.DOUCHER said:
it wouldn't make him clueless - we're not trying to trick him, just give him a good first impression - not that difficult to understand really is it?hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
If the investor is really as clueless as you're suggesting then why on earth would you want them taking over?DOUCHER said:It’s really not about the money I’d say, it’s about the experience - if I was going to plough sone money in I’d want to know that I was gonna be sitting in a lively atmospheric stadium every other week, not an empty, soulless place - we know what it can be like but an investor from wherever may not - it’s worth a £15 gamble and getting off your arse for a few hours rather than impotently moaning on and on surely ???
Maybe they could try attending a few league games instead?
We don't need another clown in charge.
It's not hard to do a bit of due diligence if you're serious. They could watch the Stockport game on ITV4 and come to a league match.
I don't want another owner in charge who is clueless about L1 football.
It would suggest they were serious if PV was bigging up their attendance at a league fixture rather than a fairly pointless fixture against Brighton.
The whole thing sounds a bit tinpot in my opinion.8 -
If there is a potential buyer/investor (it can only be Middle Eastern or USA) who could make a difference at this club would need to be backed by a load of money…This club needs a completely new outfit including a hat. TS must know about this person(?) with initial discussions already taken place and agreed for PV to make his announcement. Otherwise TS will look rather stupid should the new messiah arrive and steals his ego.1
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If this was the case why bother sacking garner and having to pay him offSolidgone said:If there is a potential buyer/investor (it can only be Middle Eastern or USA) who could make a difference at this club would need to be backed by a load of money…This club needs a completely new outfit including a hat. TS must know about this person(?) with initial discussions already taken place and agreed for PV to make his announcement. Otherwise TS will look rather stupid should the new messiah arrive and steals his ego.
surely he wld rather sit and wait it out till completed2 -
It can but a big attendance could show the malaise can be turned round quickly. of course it won't do it on its own, but if it is a feather that tips the scales, it is something at least we can do for our club. Any new owner would surely be weighing up pros and cons so adding to the pros can't hurt.clb74 said:
That can be pointed out to them without us attending.MuttleyCAFC said:
If I was Peter Varney sitting next to him I would explain that the owner is a complete, incompetent basket case and that a new owner would quickly get a strong grateful fanbase behind him, pointing to the 2019 play offs as an example of what is possible.clb74 said:
If I was the prospective buyer and there was 14000 home fans I'd want to know why they didn't bother for the Stockport home gameCovered End said:
If a potential new owner is at the Brighton game, is he more likely to be interested in buying Charlton if -SELR_addicks said:
Not really, I just think it's a pretty meaningless gesture that only really benefits Sandgaard who will pocket the extra income.Croydon said:
I feel like you're just using any excuse you can not to go at this pointSELR_addicks said:More important than ever to line the pockets of an owner taking us into the ground?
I would hope any potential owner would just watch a video of the play off final if they want to see our potential.
Any intelligent potential owner doesn't make a decision based from a few extra thousand in a ground during a game while the club is at their lowest point in years.
1 There are 14,000 Charlton fans & 6,000 Brighton fans, making a 20,000 crowd and great atmosphere.
2 There are 6,000 Charlton fans & 6,000 Brighton fans.
The Brighton fans out sing Charlton all match & it is largely a great embarrassment to Charlton.
Edit - obviously I don't mean a potential owner is so thick they would buy us solely because of this.
I mean if they have done plenty of research and are keen, but have nagging doubts whether the support has been totally lost or can return very quickly, from let's be honest the @6,000 or so of us that turn up every game.2 -
Perhaps Charlton are the football equivalent of wondering if you can buy a 3-bedroom semi-detached house in Plymouth for less than £100k ..... ?clb74 said:
A bit like buying a house really.se9addick said:
The prospective owners due diligence, because they are a credible individual who has a competent team advising them, will tell them what they need to know. Mad if people think anyone sensible is going to be influenced into buying a football club due to the attendance at a one off cup game against top league opposition when they will have all of the data on our regular attendances easily available to them. Still, I suppose it’s nice for people to feel liken they can do something positive to help their club.Covered End said:
Bloody hell, this is hard work.se9addick said:
3. Neither, because we want an owner that has a brain in their head and isn’t basing any of their interest in buying us on whether we get a decent crowd for a one off cup match.Covered End said:
If a potential new owner is at the Brighton game, is he more likely to be interested in buying Charlton if -SELR_addicks said:
Not really, I just think it's a pretty meaningless gesture that only really benefits Sandgaard who will pocket the extra income.Croydon said:
I feel like you're just using any excuse you can not to go at this pointSELR_addicks said:More important than ever to line the pockets of an owner taking us into the ground?
I would hope any potential owner would just watch a video of the play off final if they want to see our potential.
Any intelligent potential owner doesn't make a decision based from a few extra thousand in a ground during a game while the club is at their lowest point in years.
1 There are 14,000 Charlton fans & 6,000 Brighton fans, making a 20,000 crowd and great atmosphere.
2 There are 6,000 Charlton fans & 6,000 Brighton fans.
The Brighton fans out sing Charlton all match & it is largely a great embarrassment to Charlton.
It is to demonstrate that right now, Charlton are still a "biggish" club and can still attract @15,000 home fans in L1. Even though we are 17th and in one of the lowest positions for 100 years.
It is an up to date "show" that we still have good potential if there is a decent game to watch.
You go round there a few times at different times
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Of course this is all speculation but it could be they had an input in the sacking?CharltontillidieCOYR said:
If this was the case why bother sacking garner and having to pay him offSolidgone said:If there is a potential buyer/investor (it can only be Middle Eastern or USA) who could make a difference at this club would need to be backed by a load of money…This club needs a completely new outfit including a hat. TS must know about this person(?) with initial discussions already taken place and agreed for PV to make his announcement. Otherwise TS will look rather stupid should the new messiah arrive and steals his ego.
surely he wld rather sit and wait it out till completed0 -
This isn’t complicated. It’s easier for a potential owner to understand what things could be like by experiencing a packed Valley than looking at old videos or spreadsheets.
If you think the experience plays no part in such decisions you are misunderstanding why most people get involved in football.I don’t see what the downside is. Most of us would prefer to be in a bigger crowd with a better atmosphere.81 -
I get what your saying mate but think thats wishful thinking plus would the egomaniac even listen to anyone other than his close family to make any kind of big decisions …Solidgone said:
Of course this is all speculation but it could be they had an input in the sacking?CharltontillidieCOYR said:
If this was the case why bother sacking garner and having to pay him offSolidgone said:If there is a potential buyer/investor (it can only be Middle Eastern or USA) who could make a difference at this club would need to be backed by a load of money…This club needs a completely new outfit including a hat. TS must know about this person(?) with initial discussions already taken place and agreed for PV to make his announcement. Otherwise TS will look rather stupid should the new messiah arrive and steals his ego.
surely he wld rather sit and wait it out till completed
bloke is just as bad as RD!!0 -
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The last place I want to be, just before Christmas, is at a non-season ticket game at The Valley in the current TS inflicted environment. But Varney’s tweets were enough to make me buy a ticket for the cup game. If it helps make a change in ownership happen, with bums on seats from thousands of us. it’s money and time well-spent in my eyes.Airman Brown said:This isn’t complicated. It’s easier for a potential owner to understand what things could be like by experiencing a packed Valley than looking at old videos or spreadsheets.I don’t see what the downside is. Most of us would prefer to be in a bigger crowd with a better atmosphere.20 -
This is still a site for Charlton supporters isn't it?7
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I'm sensing abject humiliation in a valley full of BHAFC fans on a jolly, followed by a load of toxic anger, but I'm looking forward to having pre and post match drink with fellow Addicks.0
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your probably right but all we can do to make it go as well as possible is turn up - its all we can ever do reallyboggzy said:I'm sensing abject humiliation in a valley full of BHAFC fans on a jolly, followed by a load of toxic anger, but I'm looking forward to having pre and post match drink with fellow Addicks.2 -
If Thomas is here much longer it will be a site for AFKACharltonFans.Covered End said:This is still a site for Charlton supporters isn't it?0 -
Disillusioned, or apathetic or Ex supporters, yes!Covered End said:This is still a site for Charlton supporters isn't it?1 -
I have a bit of an issue with it and that's because I think Sandgaard wanted to see the same thing.Airman Brown said:This isn’t complicated. It’s easier for a potential owner to understand what things could be like by experiencing a packed Valley than looking at old videos or spreadsheets.
If you think the experience plays no part in such decisions you are misunderstanding why most people get involved in football.I don’t see what the downside is. Most of us would prefer to be in a bigger crowd with a better atmosphere.
He thought we were staying away purely because we had a distant owner that had been neglecting us for years. I believe he thought if he showed up more than Roland and appeared to do and say the right things we'd all come flooding back.But that wasn't the case. And it's far more deep rooted than that.
Our league status is a huge factor amongst other things. Years of erosion and missed opportunity have been slowly nailing the coffin lid
I fear that we are sending this potential suitor down the same path. If they think circa 20,000 are going to turn up week after week once they've unrooted Sandgaard then they will be in for a shock.
Getting those sorts of numbers week after week is going to take a lot of time, graft and even more cash. I just hope they are fully aware of that?
I'd much rather someone take us on for what we currently are and harness it and propel us forward.3 -
Bought my tickets for the match before I saw Varney’s tweet! Look, I really hope there’s a massive turnout and it pushes the potential buyers interest over the line, I just don’t believe it works like that in the real world.Covered End said:
This is a daft conversation, but if Peter Varney is calling for Charlton supporters to turn up for the possible good of Charlton's future, then I'll back him whether you think it's mad or not.se9addick said:
The prospective owners due diligence, because they are a credible individual who has a competent team advising them, will tell them what they need to know. Mad if people think anyone sensible is going to be influenced into buying a football club due to the attendance at a one off cup game against top league opposition when they will have all of the data on our regular attendances easily available to them. Still, I suppose it’s nice for people to feel liken they can do something positive to help their club.Covered End said:
Bloody hell, this is hard work.se9addick said:
3. Neither, because we want an owner that has a brain in their head and isn’t basing any of their interest in buying us on whether we get a decent crowd for a one off cup match.Covered End said:
If a potential new owner is at the Brighton game, is he more likely to be interested in buying Charlton if -SELR_addicks said:
Not really, I just think it's a pretty meaningless gesture that only really benefits Sandgaard who will pocket the extra income.Croydon said:
I feel like you're just using any excuse you can not to go at this pointSELR_addicks said:More important than ever to line the pockets of an owner taking us into the ground?
I would hope any potential owner would just watch a video of the play off final if they want to see our potential.
Any intelligent potential owner doesn't make a decision based from a few extra thousand in a ground during a game while the club is at their lowest point in years.
1 There are 14,000 Charlton fans & 6,000 Brighton fans, making a 20,000 crowd and great atmosphere.
2 There are 6,000 Charlton fans & 6,000 Brighton fans.
The Brighton fans out sing Charlton all match & it is largely a great embarrassment to Charlton.
It is to demonstrate that right now, Charlton are still a "biggish" club and can still attract @15,000 home fans in L1. Even though we are 17th and in one of the lowest positions for 100 years.
It is an up to date "show" that we still have good potential if there is a decent game to watch.3 -
Who is going to do that though ? Lose 8 million a year fork out £30 mill plus for the Valley and SL and only expect 10,000 to turn up each week ?carly burn said:
I have a bit of an issue with it and that's because I think Sandgaard wanted to see the same thing.Airman Brown said:This isn’t complicated. It’s easier for a potential owner to understand what things could be like by experiencing a packed Valley than looking at old videos or spreadsheets.
If you think the experience plays no part in such decisions you are misunderstanding why most people get involved in football.I don’t see what the downside is. Most of us would prefer to be in a bigger crowd with a better atmosphere.
He thought we were staying away purely because we had a distant owner that had been neglecting us for years. I believe he thought if he showed up more than Roland and appeared to do and say the right things we'd all come flooding back.But that wasn't the case. And it's far more deep rooted than that.
Our league status is a huge factor amongst other things. Years of erosion and missed opportunity have been slowly nailing the coffin lid
I fear that we are sending this potential suitor down the same path. If they think circa 20,000 are going to turn up week after week once they've unrooted Sandgaard then they will be in for a shock.
Getting those sorts of numbers week after week is going to take a lot of time, graft and even more cash. I just hope they are fully aware of that?
I'd much rather someone take us on for what we currently are and harness it and propel us forward.
Anyone who takes us on is only going to be doing so on potential. Ok it is a big job and will cost some money , but we need someone who is to turn dreams into reality.3 -
What potential buyers? There is nothing to suggest as such. I don't get it. Maybe Varney is just a Charlton fan wishing to see a good crowd at The Valley for a change. There has been no rumour of new buyers at all that I've seen. Fans desperation I'm guessing.6
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What’s wrong with a cold Friday night vs Cheltenham could have done it then. Too late in two weeks!Airman Brown said:This isn’t complicated. It’s easier for a potential owner to understand what things could be like by experiencing a packed Valley than looking at old videos or spreadsheets.
If you think the experience plays no part in such decisions you are misunderstanding why most people get involved in football.I don’t see what the downside is. Most of us would prefer to be in a bigger crowd with a better atmosphere.1 -
and hopefully steal a tape measureclb74 said:
A bit like buying a house really.se9addick said:
The prospective owners due diligence, because they are a credible individual who has a competent team advising them, will tell them what they need to know. Mad if people think anyone sensible is going to be influenced into buying a football club due to the attendance at a one off cup game against top league opposition when they will have all of the data on our regular attendances easily available to them. Still, I suppose it’s nice for people to feel liken they can do something positive to help their club.Covered End said:
Bloody hell, this is hard work.se9addick said:
3. Neither, because we want an owner that has a brain in their head and isn’t basing any of their interest in buying us on whether we get a decent crowd for a one off cup match.Covered End said:
If a potential new owner is at the Brighton game, is he more likely to be interested in buying Charlton if -SELR_addicks said:
Not really, I just think it's a pretty meaningless gesture that only really benefits Sandgaard who will pocket the extra income.Croydon said:
I feel like you're just using any excuse you can not to go at this pointSELR_addicks said:More important than ever to line the pockets of an owner taking us into the ground?
I would hope any potential owner would just watch a video of the play off final if they want to see our potential.
Any intelligent potential owner doesn't make a decision based from a few extra thousand in a ground during a game while the club is at their lowest point in years.
1 There are 14,000 Charlton fans & 6,000 Brighton fans, making a 20,000 crowd and great atmosphere.
2 There are 6,000 Charlton fans & 6,000 Brighton fans.
The Brighton fans out sing Charlton all match & it is largely a great embarrassment to Charlton.
It is to demonstrate that right now, Charlton are still a "biggish" club and can still attract @15,000 home fans in L1. Even though we are 17th and in one of the lowest positions for 100 years.
It is an up to date "show" that we still have good potential if there is a decent game to watch.
You go round there a few times at different times2 -
I’m assuming those either questioning Peter Varney himself or his intentions are either unaware of his previous achievements at our great Club, have for some reason a dislike of Peter or are just plain stupid.Covered End said:
This is a daft conversation, but if Peter Varney is calling for Charlton supporters to turn up for the possible good of Charlton's future, then I'll back him whether you think it's mad or not.se9addick said:
The prospective owners due diligence, because they are a credible individual who has a competent team advising them, will tell them what they need to know. Mad if people think anyone sensible is going to be influenced into buying a football club due to the attendance at a one off cup game against top league opposition when they will have all of the data on our regular attendances easily available to them. Still, I suppose it’s nice for people to feel liken they can do something positive to help their club.Covered End said:
Bloody hell, this is hard work.se9addick said:
3. Neither, because we want an owner that has a brain in their head and isn’t basing any of their interest in buying us on whether we get a decent crowd for a one off cup match.Covered End said:
If a potential new owner is at the Brighton game, is he more likely to be interested in buying Charlton if -SELR_addicks said:
Not really, I just think it's a pretty meaningless gesture that only really benefits Sandgaard who will pocket the extra income.Croydon said:
I feel like you're just using any excuse you can not to go at this pointSELR_addicks said:More important than ever to line the pockets of an owner taking us into the ground?
I would hope any potential owner would just watch a video of the play off final if they want to see our potential.
Any intelligent potential owner doesn't make a decision based from a few extra thousand in a ground during a game while the club is at their lowest point in years.
1 There are 14,000 Charlton fans & 6,000 Brighton fans, making a 20,000 crowd and great atmosphere.
2 There are 6,000 Charlton fans & 6,000 Brighton fans.
The Brighton fans out sing Charlton all match & it is largely a great embarrassment to Charlton.
It is to demonstrate that right now, Charlton are still a "biggish" club and can still attract @15,000 home fans in L1. Even though we are 17th and in one of the lowest positions for 100 years.
It is an up to date "show" that we still have good potential if there is a decent game to watch.
I’m not saying follow Peter like sheep but just think of the success we had whilst he was at the helm and his love for the Club and realise that anything he says or does will be to help the Club move forward positively. If he thinks a big crowd against Brighton will somehow help then I’m happy to embrace that in turn hope that helps move the Club forward.27 -
Rearrange these words - against head are brick your banging a wall youDOUCHER said:
their not going to a league fixture, their going to the brighton game and varney wants it to be a decent atmosphere - they can read all the stats in the world about our league attendances and the revenue etc etc - this isn't about that - its about sitting in a stadium and experiencing the atmosphere - that is not difficult to understand- i understand completely what you are saying but you are completely missing the point - hopefully you will understand in the morning - goodnighthoof_it_up_to_benty said:
Perhaps you should read what I said rather than keep endlessly repeating yourself. I can't make it much simpler for you.DOUCHER said:
i'll give it one more go - they can do due dilligence and come to a live game!! its not one or the other - strewthhoof_it_up_to_benty said:
It hardly suggests they have any interest in football or our club if they're going to be swayed that much by a fixture against Brighton.DOUCHER said:
it wouldn't make him clueless - we're not trying to trick him, just give him a good first impression - not that difficult to understand really is it?hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
If the investor is really as clueless as you're suggesting then why on earth would you want them taking over?DOUCHER said:It’s really not about the money I’d say, it’s about the experience - if I was going to plough sone money in I’d want to know that I was gonna be sitting in a lively atmospheric stadium every other week, not an empty, soulless place - we know what it can be like but an investor from wherever may not - it’s worth a £15 gamble and getting off your arse for a few hours rather than impotently moaning on and on surely ???
Maybe they could try attending a few league games instead?
We don't need another clown in charge.
It's not hard to do a bit of due diligence if you're serious. They could watch the Stockport game on ITV4 and come to a league match.
I don't want another owner in charge who is clueless about L1 football.
It would suggest they were serious if PV was bigging up their attendance at a league fixture rather than a fairly pointless fixture against Brighton.
The whole thing sounds a bit tinpot in my opinion.2 -
So did I and no one knows, whether it will make a difference or not, but we're going nowhere under TS, so if there's a chance ....se9addick said:
Bought my tickets for the match before I saw Varney’s tweet! Look, I really hope there’s a massive turnout and it pushes the potential buyers interest over the line, I just don’t believe it works like that in the real world.Covered End said:
This is a daft conversation, but if Peter Varney is calling for Charlton supporters to turn up for the possible good of Charlton's future, then I'll back him whether you think it's mad or not.se9addick said:
The prospective owners due diligence, because they are a credible individual who has a competent team advising them, will tell them what they need to know. Mad if people think anyone sensible is going to be influenced into buying a football club due to the attendance at a one off cup game against top league opposition when they will have all of the data on our regular attendances easily available to them. Still, I suppose it’s nice for people to feel liken they can do something positive to help their club.Covered End said:
Bloody hell, this is hard work.se9addick said:
3. Neither, because we want an owner that has a brain in their head and isn’t basing any of their interest in buying us on whether we get a decent crowd for a one off cup match.Covered End said:
If a potential new owner is at the Brighton game, is he more likely to be interested in buying Charlton if -SELR_addicks said:
Not really, I just think it's a pretty meaningless gesture that only really benefits Sandgaard who will pocket the extra income.Croydon said:
I feel like you're just using any excuse you can not to go at this pointSELR_addicks said:More important than ever to line the pockets of an owner taking us into the ground?
I would hope any potential owner would just watch a video of the play off final if they want to see our potential.
Any intelligent potential owner doesn't make a decision based from a few extra thousand in a ground during a game while the club is at their lowest point in years.
1 There are 14,000 Charlton fans & 6,000 Brighton fans, making a 20,000 crowd and great atmosphere.
2 There are 6,000 Charlton fans & 6,000 Brighton fans.
The Brighton fans out sing Charlton all match & it is largely a great embarrassment to Charlton.
It is to demonstrate that right now, Charlton are still a "biggish" club and can still attract @15,000 home fans in L1. Even though we are 17th and in one of the lowest positions for 100 years.
It is an up to date "show" that we still have good potential if there is a decent game to watch.2 -
Gives upup_the_valley said:What potential buyers? There is nothing to suggest as such. I don't get it. Maybe Varney is just a Charlton fan wishing to see a good crowd at The Valley for a change. There has been no rumour of new buyers at all that I've seen. Fans desperation I'm guessing.
You do know that Varney was the CEO, when we were that well run Premier League club that many like Leicester wanted to emulate?3 -
Praise the lord (not that I'm religious).LargeAddick said:
I’m assuming those either questioning Peter Varney himself or his intentions are either unaware of his previous achievements at our great Club, have for some reason a dislike of Peter or are just plain stupid.Covered End said:
This is a daft conversation, but if Peter Varney is calling for Charlton supporters to turn up for the possible good of Charlton's future, then I'll back him whether you think it's mad or not.se9addick said:
The prospective owners due diligence, because they are a credible individual who has a competent team advising them, will tell them what they need to know. Mad if people think anyone sensible is going to be influenced into buying a football club due to the attendance at a one off cup game against top league opposition when they will have all of the data on our regular attendances easily available to them. Still, I suppose it’s nice for people to feel liken they can do something positive to help their club.Covered End said:
Bloody hell, this is hard work.se9addick said:
3. Neither, because we want an owner that has a brain in their head and isn’t basing any of their interest in buying us on whether we get a decent crowd for a one off cup match.Covered End said:
If a potential new owner is at the Brighton game, is he more likely to be interested in buying Charlton if -SELR_addicks said:
Not really, I just think it's a pretty meaningless gesture that only really benefits Sandgaard who will pocket the extra income.Croydon said:
I feel like you're just using any excuse you can not to go at this pointSELR_addicks said:More important than ever to line the pockets of an owner taking us into the ground?
I would hope any potential owner would just watch a video of the play off final if they want to see our potential.
Any intelligent potential owner doesn't make a decision based from a few extra thousand in a ground during a game while the club is at their lowest point in years.
1 There are 14,000 Charlton fans & 6,000 Brighton fans, making a 20,000 crowd and great atmosphere.
2 There are 6,000 Charlton fans & 6,000 Brighton fans.
The Brighton fans out sing Charlton all match & it is largely a great embarrassment to Charlton.
It is to demonstrate that right now, Charlton are still a "biggish" club and can still attract @15,000 home fans in L1. Even though we are 17th and in one of the lowest positions for 100 years.
It is an up to date "show" that we still have good potential if there is a decent game to watch.
I’m not saying follow Peter like sheep but just think of the success we had whilst he was at the helm and his love for the Club and realise that anything he says or does will be to help the Club move forward positively. If he thinks a big crowd against Brighton will somehow help then I’m happy to embrace that in turn hope that helps move the Club forward.
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Covered End said:up_the_valley said:What potential buyers? There is nothing to suggest as such. I don't get it. Maybe Varney is just a Charlton fan wishing to see a good crowd at The Valley for a change. There has been no rumour of new buyers at all that I've seen. Fans desperation I'm guessing.Gives upYou do know that Varney was the CEO, when we were that well run Premier League club that many like Leicester wanted to emulate?Yes I do know. Very well.....1
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If we’re looking to push a sale over the line with the atmosphere we create that may explain the wanky owners we’ve had over the last dozen or so years8
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Fans haven't come flooding back, as his deeds have not matched his words. He promised much but very quickly those words were shown up as empty promises.carly burn said:
I have a bit of an issue with it and that's because I think Sandgaard wanted to see the same thing.Airman Brown said:This isn’t complicated. It’s easier for a potential owner to understand what things could be like by experiencing a packed Valley than looking at old videos or spreadsheets.
If you think the experience plays no part in such decisions you are misunderstanding why most people get involved in football.I don’t see what the downside is. Most of us would prefer to be in a bigger crowd with a better atmosphere.
He thought we were staying away purely because we had a distant owner that had been neglecting us for years. I believe he thought if he showed up more than Roland and appeared to do and say the right things we'd all come flooding back.But that wasn't the case. And it's far more deep rooted than that.
Our league status is a huge factor amongst other things. Years of erosion and missed opportunity have been slowly nailing the coffin lid
I fear that we are sending this potential suitor down the same path. If they think circa 20,000 are going to turn up week after week once they've unrooted Sandgaard then they will be in for a shock.
Getting those sorts of numbers week after week is going to take a lot of time, graft and even more cash. I just hope they are fully aware of that?
I'd much rather someone take us on for what we currently are and harness it and propel us forward.
I boycotted and protested against Roland, including going over to Belgium.
When Roland agreed to sell I returned for the game after ESI (version 1) took over. I remember those chants of "We're f***ing rich".
It soon became clear that things weren't so rosy and as they quickly unravelled I again refused to go.
The shenanigans that followed looked to be destined to run the club into the ground and I was grateful when TS managed to buy the club. He talked big -Asked what his objectives for Charlton were, he replied: “Three to five years, Premier League, then less than ten years that we are solid, at least mid table.
“And in 15 years I want to make sure this club is one of the best clubs and always playing European football. That is my goal.”
Like most fans I took what he said with a pinch of salt, but I did at least expect him to move us forward, get us out of the 3rd division and try to push for promotion to the Premier League. Covid didn't help the situation but, in the great scheme of things, didn't stop TS from pushing for the goals that he had set. What got in his way was his ego and his decision making.
I have not returned to The Valley since covid because of TS. His treatment of non-playing staff has confirmed to me that my reasons for boycotting again were valid.
I had absolutely no intention of going to some "meaningless" cup tie against Brighton just before Xmas but, if Peter Varney suggests that it might be a good idea to turn up then that's a good enough reason for me to go. All I've got to do now is convince my son that going is a good idea, as it just happens to be on his 19th birthday and he'll just be back from uni!
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