Will we make the playoffs?

seth plum said:

Take one game at a time and win it.

Absolutely spot on.

IanJRO said:

I think playoffs is overly optimistic. I just hope we can continue playing with this new found spirit and finish as strong as possible. Will put us in good stead for next season and it's much more enjoyable to watch in the interim.

I fear Leaburn will be gone in the summer (if not sooner) and I doubt Rak-Sakyi will be back so hopefully ownership is sorted soon and there are some funds available to replace them with suitable alternatives in the summer.

Reasons to be cautiously optimistic for 23/24 but too much to do this year and still too much uncertainty on ownership to be launching HMS Piss the League for the foreseeable!

That's the problem, it will be half the squad that needs replacing.

Leaburn will probably go, then JRS, Sess and Kane will go back. A lot of the players (DJ, Kirk, Stockley, Morgan, Lavelle etc) are not good enough plus of course there's the Aneke issue and then suddenly we have a whole new rebuild required again.

In some ways I'd prefer it if we didnt.

I mean seriously lets look at the bigger picture - If this squad goes up, its going to require a miracle to survive, and that'll be combined with the need to overhaul the squad (We'll be the last team doing it), and hope we have a takeover (As Sandgaard cant be trusted with another squad overhaul).

Yes I'm bored of being in League One... But I'll be even more bored of going up to the Championship for a single season, before coming back down again because we didnt have the time or funds to take it seriously... and end up coming back down even weaker again because we lose our standout players.

In an ideal world, I'd prefer it if we stayed down one more year, its also a world where fairies and dragons exist.

Firstly need to grow some balls with the likes of Leaburn | Ness | Maynard-Brewer by refusing all interest, and making sure that the latter two are on longer Contracts beyond 2024, ensuring we dont have a repeat scenario of Grant | Aribo, as we wouldn't have been relegated in 19/20 with those two in the team.

We've got a small squad of players that we can rely on, but its the depth when there are injuries that is once again hurting us - Thats the issue that needs resolving in the summer... Build an actual squad, not a first eleven... Investigate why injuries are happening, and try to counter them with infrastructure / staff, and then give it a real good go. So we win promotion with a team that doesnt need much strengthening in the Championship, can carry confidence and momentum into that league, and be challengers rather than making up the numbers.

ForeverAddickted said:

In some ways I'd prefer it if we didnt.

I mean seriously lets look at the bigger picture - If this squad goes up, its going to require a miracle to survive, and that'll be combined with the need to overhaul the squad (We'll be the last team doing it), and hope we have a takeover (As Sandgaard cant be trusted with another squad overhaul).

Yes I'm bored of being in League One... But I'll be even more bored of going up to the Championship for a single season, before coming back down again because we didnt have the time or funds to take it seriously... and end up coming back down even weaker again because we lose our standout players.

In an ideal world, I'd prefer it if we stayed down one more year, its also a world where fairies and dragons exist.

Firstly need to grow some balls with the likes of Leaburn | Ness | Maynard-Brewer by refusing all interest, and making sure that the latter two are on longer Contracts beyond 2024, ensuring we dont have a repeat scenario of Grant | Aribo, as we wouldn't have been relegated in 19/20 with those two in the team.

We've got a small squad of players that we can rely on, but its the depth when there are injuries that is once again hurting us - Thats the issue that needs resolving in the summer... Build an actual squad, not a first eleven... Investigate why injuries are happening, and try to counter them with infrastructure / staff, and then give it a real good go. So we win promotion with a team that doesnt need much strengthening in the Championship, can carry confidence and momentum into that league, and be challengers rather than making up the numbers.

I'd rather rebuild in the championship than rebuild in league one. For a start we could probably keep Sess and JRS again and would have an outside chance of keeping Leaburn for another 6-12 months. Would also get other better PL youngsters offered to us as well.

In league one we'd be practically ripping it up and starting again. As we seem to do every summer.

No. Six points behind sixth (Barnsley) who have two games in hand. 10 points behind fifth (Bolton). Five other teams between us and Barnsley, two of whom also have two games in hand.

We would need to have an unbelievable run from now until the end of the season to haul back that lot.

I think we will have a good second half of the season and win more than we lose, and probably end up 8th to 12th.

We were 6/5 to finish in the top half before Saturday's game. It's reduced down to 5/6 but I'm still not confident enough that we will even finish above half way to lump on at what might seem to be generous odds to those thinking we may well make the top 6!?

ForeverAddickted said:

In some ways I'd prefer it if we didnt.

I mean seriously lets look at the bigger picture - If this squad goes up, its going to require a miracle to survive, and that'll be combined with the need to overhaul the squad (We'll be the last team doing it), and hope we have a takeover (As Sandgaard cant be trusted with another squad overhaul).

Yes I'm bored of being in League One... But I'll be even more bored of going up to the Championship for a single season, before coming back down again because we didnt have the time or funds to take it seriously... and end up coming back down even weaker again because we lose our standout players.

In an ideal world, I'd prefer it if we stayed down one more year, its also a world where fairies and dragons exist.

Firstly need to grow some balls with the likes of Leaburn | Ness | Maynard-Brewer by refusing all interest, and making sure that the latter two are on longer Contracts beyond 2024, ensuring we dont have a repeat scenario of Grant | Aribo, as we wouldn't have been relegated in 19/20 with those two in the team.

We've got a small squad of players that we can rely on, but its the depth when there are injuries that is once again hurting us - Thats the issue that needs resolving in the summer... Build an actual squad, not a first eleven... Investigate why injuries are happening, and try to counter them with infrastructure / staff, and then give it a real good go. So we win promotion with a team that doesnt need much strengthening in the Championship, can carry confidence and momentum into that league, and be challengers rather than making up the numbers.

I take your point that you would like to prepare proper squad for a promotion to the Championship. But on the other side is that with the number of loanees returning and out -of -contract players we will have to have rebuild anyway. Whichever division we are in . I'd rather do that in the light of a promotion and in the Championship. Anyway its highly unlikely. Most likely is 60-70 points mid table. And a total rebuild (thats a certainty). Worst scenario is we miss out on playoffs by point/ goal difference like under Adkins.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/table

Last 5 games form of the teams above us from 6th down:

Barnsley 7 from 15
Wycombe 9 from 15
Bristol Rovers 6 from 15
Posh 4 from 15
Exeter 8 from 15
Vale 9 from 15

We've taken 10 from 15

It aint over until the rotund female starts belting out Red Red Robin.

Take each game as it comes.

If anyone within the clubs starts getting hopes up at any point too early...it won't help.

My biggest fear is, we will finish 7th or 8th...we feel optimistic about next season and then GUESS WHAT

Charlton have no useful budget for the summer transfer window, Holden and TS have a falling out  the club doesn't get sold, holden can't bring in the players he wants. The squad doesn't have enough depth

He either moves to another club or hits a sack worthy bad form

And then Charlton normal services resumed...

Two points per game over the next 20 games is being made to seem a lot harder than it is.

When you compare it to the 46 game season and see that every year, only one or two teams at the very top make it, it looks impossible.

But how many teams over the course of a 46 game season have a 20-game streak of 40 points? It’s a lot easier to put that run together over a shorter period of time.

Take it to extremes, we’ve won three games in a row. That’s 3 points per game achieved over a short period. But no team has ever managed 3 points per game over 46 games.


Doesn’t mean it’s easy but it is attainable.

Callumcafc said:

Forget where we are in relation to other teams, with 2 games left to play (including games against those teams), doing that is almost pointless at this stage.

Two points per game over the next 20 games is being made to seem a lot harder than it is.

When you compare it to the 46 game season and see that every year, only one or two teams at the very top make it, it looks impossible.

But how many teams over the course of a 46 game season have a 20-game streak of 40 points? It’s a lot easier to put that run together over a shorter period of time.

Take it to extremes, we’ve won three games in a row. That’s 3 points per game achieved over a short period. But no team has ever managed 3 points per game over 46 games.


Doesn’t mean it’s easy but it is attainable.

It’s also attainable for the teams above us. That’s why it actually does matter how many teams are above us imho. 

Dazzler21 said:

We'll finish 7th by a point after a brilliant second half of the season and people will tell us how shite we are. 

Doing that relies on either Leaburn or Bonne going on a hot streak, guaranteeing they won't be here next season.  Probably Dobson, one of the keepers, Innis or Ness and CBT or Campbell or Fraser being some of the best players in the division for 4 or 5 months.  Good luck keeping them all...

Not getting the contracts of the out of contract sorted, one way or another, until its too late because "we don't know what division we will be in".

We are actually better off missing out by miles than even losing the play off final.

About as likely as us winning every remaining game. So no. 
The problems we had with the club 4 matches ago are still largely there. 

JamesSeed said:

Callumcafc said:

Forget where we are in relation to other teams, with 2 games left to play (including games against those teams), doing that is almost pointless at this stage.

Two points per game over the next 20 games is being made to seem a lot harder than it is.

When you compare it to the 46 game season and see that every year, only one or two teams at the very top make it, it looks impossible.

But how many teams over the course of a 46 game season have a 20-game streak of 40 points? It’s a lot easier to put that run together over a shorter period of time.

Take it to extremes, we’ve won three games in a row. That’s 3 points per game achieved over a short period. But no team has ever managed 3 points per game over 46 games.


Doesn’t mean it’s easy but it is attainable.

It’s also attainable for the teams above us. That’s why it actually does matter how many teams are above us imho. 

Obviously but not everyone can do it. That’s why IMO you focus on points targets instead, take care of your own business. Last season was a freak season and 7th not getting in with 80 is absolutely bizarre.