January Transfer Window - Jan 2023 (Deadline Day starts page 112)

FishCostaFortune said:

To be honest if someone told me that in this window by the third game we would have got:

- a full back who can play both sides and had been playing in the championship this season.

- a striker who has scored double figure goals in the championship and league one in recent seasons.

- a left footed left back who has been playing in the Scottish premiership.

I’d say on paper that’s probably pretty solid for what you can get in January, whilst addressing the holes in our squad.

Manage to bring in one or two more of similar or better quality before the deadline, and overall it would have been a positive window in my opinion.

This. IMO -the reason why we are quite far off the top 6 is not having sufficient cover at LB and having to use Stockley in a lone striker role. 

Redhenry said:

Leuth said:

I'm not unhappy Purrington isn't still with us. He offered little going forward (except when he decided to literally play striker) and defensively I felt he stood off his man a bit too much. He, Washington and Gilbey also gave me a certain self-pitying vibe which I can't quite fully explain. He'd have been preferable to Clayden, Clare or Chin in the position, for sure, but then we should never have had to play any of those at left-back

Purrington was league 2 at best!

Did you think that when he was steady Eddie in the Championship?

Or under JJ as Caretaker when he spent more time in the opposition box and scored a few goals in League 1 and our form was excellent.

My opinion is, in the modern game your full backs need pace and Ben could get forward and be dangerous (Wembley legend) BUT it took him too long to get back ! 

No problem with letting Purrington or Washington go but replace them with more quality; as opposed to not replacing them !

The curse of injured cafc full backs happens at Charlton or when they leave. Purrington joins the long list.

Bailey said:

Redmidland said:

A left footed left back, in Penney, for me is a much welcome addition. We now have an opportunity to see Sess in his natural RB position. I would also use Clare as a replacement for Morgan in midfield, alongside Dobbo and Fraser.
The one thing I don't get is why some fans are moaning we didn't know about Penney, well why should we, we have no divine right to know everything immediately! Holden wanted to keep him under wraps until the team was announced...so what, if its allowed, I think that was a good idea!.
I also agree that if we were under an embargo we would know, as the EFL publish the names of clubs who are nowadays.

Good post Red, what the signing of Penney and Bonne give us is firstly balance and secondly options in team selection and shape.

Worth including Kane in that if we don't RTS him. 

Allows Sess to go RB and Clare potentially to try to prove he can be a CM.

Dazzler21 said:

Bailey said:

Redmidland said:

A left footed left back, in Penney, for me is a much welcome addition. We now have an opportunity to see Sess in his natural RB position. I would also use Clare as a replacement for Morgan in midfield, alongside Dobbo and Fraser.
The one thing I don't get is why some fans are moaning we didn't know about Penney, well why should we, we have no divine right to know everything immediately! Holden wanted to keep him under wraps until the team was announced...so what, if its allowed, I think that was a good idea!.
I also agree that if we were under an embargo we would know, as the EFL publish the names of clubs who are nowadays.

Good post Red, what the signing of Penney and Bonne give us is firstly balance and secondly options in team selection and shape.

Worth including Kane in that if we don't RTS him. 

Allows Sess to go RB and Clare potentially to try to prove he can be a CM.

The way things are going, I can see Clare still playing lots of games at RB, with Egbo and Kane injured, and Sess having his knee problems. 

Swisdom said:

the figures in Salary Soort are only a guide and are definitely not gospel.  

I know of a player who was showing as earning £5000 a week last season and was actually on £600 a week.  Apply a pinch of salt

With your football network you will hear all the stories and will be ITK BUT that comes with responsibility  @Swisdom which you abide by and 👏for your Penney clue as it was obviously Done (unlike Edun) which another poster implied was done !


Last season I went to many matches at Youth, Kent league and just a dozen Cafc matches (as I'm Charlton till I die) and spoke to many scouts, coaches, agents, players, and Dad's of young players and wages vary so much.  A Kent league striker part timer on £500/600 a week while young professional 18 year olds in League 2 on much less while they are trying to prove their selves. 

I Know two 18 year olds who got moves to the Premier last season, one was low down in the football pyramid and goes from £150 a week plus his Dad is subsidising him, to 10k just weeks after nearly taking up an offer to go to an American university for a sports degree. Stronger since Premier sport science and coaches make sure he followers a bespoke program to step up.

Another kid gets a move to a Premier club, plays regular for the Premier Under 21's, starts on 12k with increases due if plays so many 1st team games BUT get taken out in training by an ex England International who doesn't like being skilled up by a young player and the lad is out for 4 months !

So from being one week away from making his debut in Premier, he is injured, the manager gets sacked and then the player is loaned abroad when he eventually gets fit.
Premier debut remains just a dream.

I have actually meet agents who are good guys, hardly taking any money off 17 + 18 year olds on modest contracts; getting their payday further down the line. (Or not for the lads who don't make it)

Snakes and ladders being a pro footballer.
Joe Aribo goes from playing more games for club and Countries than any other player in Europe when at Rangers to being on the bench mainly for Southampton.
Affects Joe's love of playing football, not his bank balance. 


* Some agents are quintessential leeches but the rewards are so high if you get one 'star' 

We keep getting random rumours that we are looking at defensive midfielders, which some worry about.  Maybe we are looking at carrying on playing 433, but with two solid blockers in central midfield.  This would free up the fullbacks to bomb on and allow the attacking players a bit more freedom.  Brazil used to play two defensive midfielders in the 90s, but they did have Cafu and Roberto Carlos as the attacking fullbacks.

PWADDICK said:

Matt Penney Highlights 
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5y2uZKh1l0w

I bet we sign the striker that gets on the end of his cross in clip 3. 

Weegie Addick said:

LargeAddick said:

JamesSeed said:

LargeAddick said:

have to admit I'm not really that bothered about this transfer window. Relegation very unlikely as is promotion. Just want to hang on to Leaburn, Ness, Fraser & Dobbo and if we can bring in a couple like Todd (point to prove, out of contract in the summer, take a good look at them now) then great. The summer will be a big rebuilding exercise.

Of greater importance now is who will be owning us and what their ambition is.

Might need to give the first two a pay rise, as Fraser is paid 15x what they are. 

I’ll bite. So if Miles is on £500 a week Fraser is on £7,500 a week? If Miles is on less than that we have no chance if a big club comes calling.

True according to this. Apologies if already posted on here but I haven’t come across it. 

https://salarysport.com/football/sky-bet-league-one/charlton-athletic/

Though I reckon it is not fully up to date. 

Imagine the issues that could cause in a dressing room if it’s anything remotely close to being accurate. 

Are these accurate figures. Just shows how expensive to run this club

jacob_CAFC said:

I don't believe it, has a player being announced on the team sheet ever happened before? It's one of those things like a "pay as you play" contract that doesn't really exist. 

Slightly different but if you remember the start of the 18/19 season stories of JFC doing his ACL started on the Thursday and it was embargoed until the team was announced. 

Are we done on incomings?

Covered_End_Lad said:

We are looking at Owen Dale. Currently on loan at Portsmouth but hasn't suited their pump it long style. Could do well in Holden's 433.

I've heard of him, there was a few on here , rating him a couple of seasons ago?

Covered_End_Lad said:

We are looking at Owen Dale. Currently on loan at Portsmouth but hasn't suited their pump it long style. Could do well in Holden's 433.

Good player, thought he stood out more than Kirk when we played against Crewe.

Yep - he's already scored for us this season :-)