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  • cafctom said:
    Christ. If the demand is that high, then I’m surprised they didn’t go for an outdoor stadium. 

    Then again the unpredictable British weather might have been a concern. Probably why the only big show they’ve done over here since 1992 was in Cardiff which has the retractable roof. 
    Most clubs dig up their pitches by start of July. I know first hand how difficult it was for England (Played at wolves ground) to find a venue for last years nations league match with Italy & Hungary.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited February 2023
    cafctom said:
    Christ. If the demand is that high, then I’m surprised they didn’t go for an outdoor stadium. 

    Then again the unpredictable British weather might have been a concern. Probably why the only big show they’ve done over here since 1992 was in Cardiff which has the retractable roof. 
    Most clubs dig up their pitches by start of July. I know first hand how difficult it was for England (Played at wolves ground) to find a venue for last years nations league match with Italy & Hungary.
    There are other stadiums like Twickenham, don't they have a removable pitch at Spurs.  I know it clashes with the season but you could get a half decent crowd in a cricket ground, they have concerts there during the peak cricket season.  I don't know even somewhere like York race course.  If you really wanted to.

    You obviously can't play football matches there.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,250
    I hope they realise there is a humongous demand and bring Summerslam or something over here in a couple of years time and hold it in Wembley, and sell near 100k tickets
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,250
    9 years ago... Wow some of the faces in there!
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    sam3110 said:
    9 years ago... Wow some of the faces in there!
    3 of the 4 best creative minds in the history of the business in that picture.
  • I can't wait to see Lesnar Vs Omos at WrestleMania..........said nobody ever!!!!!
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    I can't wait to see Lesnar Vs Omos at WrestleMania..........said nobody ever!!!!!
    Has Vince’s fingerprints all over it, doesn’t it. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,250
    I can't wait to see Lesnar Vs Omos at WrestleMania..........said nobody ever!!!!!
    Came about because they pitched the Bray Vs Brock to Lesnar, and he said "fuck that" essentially.

    Will be a good piss break in one of the nights though
  • fmaddick
    fmaddick Posts: 182
    Saw a tweet that was glad to have Omos v Lesnar not Bray v Lesnar. After the initial shock, I realised I agree. Not at all into the Wyatt character, and him against Lesnar wouldn’t be something I want to see!
  • Apparently reigns turned down a programme with Wyatt after mania. Appears to be a common pattern emerging. 
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  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    The Wyatt character felt quite interesting when he first returned, but it’s reverted back to the same old funhouse shite which is largely cringeworthy. 
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,076
    I think I've seen enough Lesnar V big man matches now. Would be good to see him against a worker like Rollins, Styles, Ballor etc. in a proper match. At least Goldberg isn't on the card I guess.

    cafctom said:
    The Wyatt character felt quite interesting when he first returned, but it’s reverted back to the same old funhouse shite which is largely cringeworthy. 
    It was, there seemed to be a story where he was getting blamed for things that weren't his fault that the mysterious Uncle Howdy was carrying out. Pretty sure they ended up teaming together and it died a death. I don't mind the funhouse stuff that much, but the fiend is a good 25 years past being a decent character. I can't stand no selling expect for the likes of Heyman hitting Owens at Elimination chamber. Fiend V Rollins deserved it's worst match of the year award. Perhaps they will reveal Uncle Howdy at 'mania but I don't think many people are interested anymore.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    edited March 2023
    See I actually liked The Fiend to begin with. It felt different and had a novelty element to it. Wyatt definitely needed a shake up, and to his credit - the character did get over very well at first. 

    The challenge with The Fiend as time went on was that it became quite limited as to what you could do with him. I think Rollins actually commented publicly about it. How can you book creatively around a character that is seemingly invincible? 

    And to then have him lose to Goldberg in Saudi killed it completely. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    cafctom said:
    See I actually liked The Fiend to begin with. It felt different and had a novelty element to it. Wyatt definitely needed a shake up, and to his credit - the character did get over very well at first. 

    The challenge with The Fiend as time went on was that it became quite limited as to what you could do with him. I think Rollins actually commented publicly about it. How can you book creatively around a character that is seemingly invincible? 

    And to then have him lose to Goldberg in Saudi killed it completely. 
    Yep, it shows how well, despite more than a few hiccups along the way, the WWF booked the Undertaker for so long.

    I am not surprised that Lesnar and Reigns don't want to work with him, I am more surprised that the E want them to.  If you can't book the finish, don't book the match.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    Cafc43v3r said:
    cafctom said:
    See I actually liked The Fiend to begin with. It felt different and had a novelty element to it. Wyatt definitely needed a shake up, and to his credit - the character did get over very well at first. 

    The challenge with The Fiend as time went on was that it became quite limited as to what you could do with him. I think Rollins actually commented publicly about it. How can you book creatively around a character that is seemingly invincible? 

    And to then have him lose to Goldberg in Saudi killed it completely. 
    Yep, it shows how well, despite more than a few hiccups along the way, the WWF booked the Undertaker for so long.

    I am not surprised that Lesnar and Reigns don't want to work with him, I am more surprised that the E want them to.  If you can't book the finish, don't book the match.
    Well, he’s still very popular among a lot of the fanbase and does offer something different. Whether they get the full potential out of him or not has really been their downfall instead of his. They had something interesting going on with him but have tanked it completely. 

    And it’s not as if most people who watch WWE are thinking that hard about the booking element to it. Many will just enjoy him for offering something a bit spooky to watch in the middle of a 2 hour show.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    The Jon Moxley backstage promo on Dynamite this week was outstanding. 

    He’ll have detractors from those in line with Jim Cornette’s school of thought, but when Moxley is on top form then he hits hard.
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,076
    There's something I don't like about Moxley that I can't put my finger on, he comes off pretty cheesey. If he was an upper midcarder I won't mind him, but being a main eventer is different. I would say he's was the worst WWE Champion for a long time, I personally preferred Jinder.

  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,076
    Catching up with Smackdown. Rey V Dominic will be a decent 'mania match. They've built the storyline up well. Have WWE hired new writers?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    edited March 2023
    I haven’t watched wrestling for about 20ish years now (I’m 36) but used to absolutely love it. Attitude era my absolute favourite and more and more recently I find myself watching old clips on Twitter and YouTube of that era and the two before it, so WWF Raw early years + Jake the Snake etc. Tempting to start watching a bit more these days. 
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    edited March 2023
    There's something I don't like about Moxley that I can't put my finger on, he comes off pretty cheesey. If he was an upper midcarder I won't mind him, but being a main eventer is different. I would say he's was the worst WWE Champion for a long time, I personally preferred Jinder.

    Goldberg, The Miz and even some of the early Roman Reigns stints with the belt were worse. 

    At least Dean Ambrose was over when he won the belt.

    Personally felt they should have pulled the trigger with him a year or two earlier, but Vince was stubbornly insisting on a face Reigns who was getting booed each week.

    One thing about Moxley which I think grates on a few people is that every single promo tends to be 100%, full throttle, blood and guts. He’s very good at it, but it can lose its impact if it’s the same one every week. 
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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    There's something I don't like about Moxley that I can't put my finger on, he comes off pretty cheesey. If he was an upper midcarder I won't mind him, but being a main eventer is different. I would say he's was the worst WWE Champion for a long time, I personally preferred Jinder.

    I think it's because it feels so fake and forced.  I don't believe the character at all, to me it fells like he is playing the character he wants to be, as opposed to an amplification of himself.
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,076
    Cafc43v3r said:
    There's something I don't like about Moxley that I can't put my finger on, he comes off pretty cheesey. If he was an upper midcarder I won't mind him, but being a main eventer is different. I would say he's was the worst WWE Champion for a long time, I personally preferred Jinder.

    I think it's because it feels so fake and forced.  I don't believe the character at all, to me it fells like he is playing the character he wants to be, as opposed to an amplification of himself.
    That's probably it. His walk through the crowd is so over the top and doesn't seem natural.

    Goldberg was far worse, mind was doing a good job blocking that out! I feel The Miz got it a couple of years too early which may have negatively affected his career. He has everything to be a main eventer. 
  • Don't watch much AEW to be honest, but I've just watched Revolution.

    A couple of absolutely brutal matches
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,250
    Don't watch much AEW to be honest, but I've just watched Revolution.

    A couple of absolutely brutal matches
    Moxley overdoes the blood though... The guy bleeds in a 5 min semi squash on Rampage ffs
  • Yeah I'm not a big Moxley fan generally.  I think he's very limited
  • fmaddick
    fmaddick Posts: 182
    Moxley bleeding has become a joke now - hope for his sake he’s able to restrict it to big matches that need it

    great PPV overall though
  • Bought the Revolution PPV on DAZN to find out it was only available live & can’t be watched on-demand 🙄

    Used to watch AEW religiously, subscribed to Fite TV & everything but drifted back to WWE as it’s more accessible via BT & the WWE Network 
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,076
    fmaddick said:
    Moxley bleeding has become a joke now - hope for his sake he’s able to restrict it to big matches that need it

    great PPV overall though
    No one within AEW will tell him to stop it.

    Great finish with the tough guy tapping to a choke. 👍🏼
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    Strong PPV on the whole. Brilliant main event. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    The media scrum was excellent as well.