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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,935
    I don’t like how our bowlers have adapted to this Bad Ball approach I keep hearing about. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,128
    Is there anyone else on the county circuit that hasn't made an England squad yet to be keeping an eye on in terms of genuine pace bowlers? Or is it more a case of hoping for Mahmood,Stone,Archer etc to eventually get fit? 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,938
    MarcusH26 said:
    Is there anyone else on the county circuit that hasn't made an England squad yet to be keeping an eye on in terms of genuine pace bowlers? Or is it more a case of hoping for Mahmood,Stone,Archer etc to eventually get fit? 
    I'm not sure that there is with genuine pace. Sam Cook isn't quick but, given that one or two of our seamers are nearing the end of their career, he has to be close to making his debut. He's taken 242 FC wickets at 20.04 with an ER of 2.60
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,285
    Addick Addict said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Is there anyone else on the county circuit that hasn't made an England squad yet to be keeping an eye on in terms of genuine pace bowlers? Or is it more a case of hoping for Mahmood,Stone,Archer etc to eventually get fit? 
    I'm not sure that there is with genuine pace. Sam Cook isn't quick but, given that one or two of our seamers are nearing the end of their career, he has to be close to making his debut. He's taken 242 FC wickets at 20.04 with an ER of 2.60
    A change is gonna come.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    great review
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Addick Addict said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Is there anyone else on the county circuit that hasn't made an England squad yet to be keeping an eye on in terms of genuine pace bowlers? Or is it more a case of hoping for Mahmood,Stone,Archer etc to eventually get fit? 
    I'm not sure that there is with genuine pace. Sam Cook isn't quick but, given that one or two of our seamers are nearing the end of their career, he has to be close to making his debut. He's taken 242 FC wickets at 20.04 with an ER of 2.60
    cook'll be our replacement for anderson i reckon. Agreed, his FC average + economy is too good to ignore. 
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    anderson looks in a bit of pain after colliding with the boundary... I'm worried this is his last summer.
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,184
    edited June 2023
    I see Kevin Peterson was less than complimentary on England’s behaviour and performance yesterday. Does he have a point?

    If England are trying to play to the type of person Stokes is, then is it like Charlton trying to play to a system where they don’t have the players to do so?
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    do we dare think about skittling the rest out under 380? 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,938
    sillav nitram said:
    I see Kevin Peterson was less than complimentary on England’s behaviour and performance yesterday. Does he have a point?

    If England are trying to play to the type of person Stokes is, then is it like Charlton trying to play to a system where they don’t have the players to do so?

    It's more, as Nasser said, the attitude like when they had the drizzle break - the Aussie batsmen were out before the England players had left their dressing rooms - and the lack of "let's get out and at 'em"

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  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,765
    Decent response from England after yesterday 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,014
    edited June 2023
    Smith looking to speed up a bit?
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,938
    North Lower Neil said:
    Smith looking ot speed up a bit?
    Like him or not, you don't average 60.05 in Test cricket from 174 innings without being one of the greats. That's his 32nd ton and his 12th against us, 8 of which have been scored in England.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,938
    The concern for me is that we actually get the Aussies out too early in the sense that it is still decent bowling conditions
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,014
    Addick Addict said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    Smith looking ot speed up a bit?
    Like him or not, you don't average 60.05 in Test cricket from 174 innings without being one of the greats. That's his 32nd ton and his 12th against us, 8 of which have been scored in England.
    Indeed, best batsman of this generation, annoyingly!!
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,438
    Addick Addict said:
    The concern for me is that we actually get the Aussies out too early in the sense that it is still decent bowling conditions
    Nice problem to have, just hold out if we get in and wait for good conditions and dont go full gung-ho
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    steve smith is unbelievably good. Made that century look like a walk in the park. Still a cheat, though.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,938
    johnnybev1987 said:
    Addick Addict said:
    The concern for me is that we actually get the Aussies out too early in the sense that it is still decent bowling conditions
    Nice problem to have, just hold out if we get in and wait for good conditions and dont go full gung-ho
    It's that bit that worries me!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,038
    North Lower Neil said:
    Addick Addict said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    Smith looking ot speed up a bit?
    Like him or not, you don't average 60.05 in Test cricket from 174 innings without being one of the greats. That's his 32nd ton and his 12th against us, 8 of which have been scored in England.
    Indeed, best batsman of this generation, annoyingly!!
    The best average for decades. 6th best of all time
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    tongue gets smith!

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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,014
    Impressive from Tongue this Test.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,038
    Australia all out or declare by 12:40. England to lose 1 wicket before lunch...
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,014
    killerandflash said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    Addick Addict said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    Smith looking ot speed up a bit?
    Like him or not, you don't average 60.05 in Test cricket from 174 innings without being one of the greats. That's his 32nd ton and his 12th against us, 8 of which have been scored in England.
    Indeed, best batsman of this generation, annoyingly!!
    The best average for decades. 6th best of all time
    Yeah I think there's a debate to be had on whether he's better than Tendulkar, Lara, but he's definitely the best since them.
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,184
    killerandflash said:
    Australia all out or declare by 12:40. England to lose 10 wickets before lunch...
    Fixed it for you.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    North Lower Neil said:
    Impressive from Tongue this Test.
    there's something to be said for the duncan fletcher mantra that if you want to be a pace bowler and succeed at test level, you need to be bowling close to 90mph.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,090
    Why are England wearing a different kit today yesterday the numbers and sponsor was dark blue today it's red
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,184
    BigRedEvil said:
    Why are England wearing a different kit today yesterday the numbers and sponsor was dark blue today it's red
    Been consulting Gok Wan?
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,938
    edited June 2023
    BigRedEvil said:
    Why are England wearing a different kit today yesterday the numbers and sponsor was dark blue today it's red

    The colour of the Ruth Strauss Foundation, which raises money to provide support for the families facing the death of a parent to cancer, is red
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,014
    BigRedEvil said:
    Why are England wearing a different kit today yesterday the numbers and sponsor was dark blue today it's red
    Red for Ruth day for the Ruth Strauss Foundation.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,090
    Addick Addict said:
    BigRedEvil said:
    Why are England wearing a different kit today yesterday the numbers and sponsor was dark blue today it's red

    The colour of the Ruth Strauss Foundation, which raises money to provide support for the families facing the death of a parent to cancer, is red
    Thanks, that's a nice gesture 

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