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Tour de France (2023 from p54)

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  • Gary Poole
    Gary Poole Posts: 1,874
    Great start to the tour first time brothers have finished 1st and 2nd since 1919
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,889
    Gary Poole said:
    Great start to the tour first time brothers have finished 1st and 2nd since 1919
    Oh thats rubbish... there was me hoping, and thinking it was a first
  • Gary Poole
    Gary Poole Posts: 1,874
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Gary Poole said:
    Great start to the tour first time brothers have finished 1st and 2nd since 1919
    Oh thats rubbish... there was me hoping, and thinking it was a first
    Probably the first twins
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,076
    Gary Poole said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Gary Poole said:
    Great start to the tour first time brothers have finished 1st and 2nd since 1919
    Oh thats rubbish... there was me hoping, and thinking it was a first
    Probably the first twins
    And first for the opening stage and yellow jersey?
  • rina
    rina Posts: 2,337
    KBslittlesis said:
    Did that fella coming 3rd think he'd won 🤣🤣
    in a way he did

    while he would love to have won the stage I think Adam Yates taking yellow and Pogacar taking 4 seconds over the peleton may well be a better result for him 

    UAE are in an amazing position of both having yellow and a very strong looking Pogacar not having the pressure of having to defend it
  • rina
    rina Posts: 2,337
    Gary Poole said:
    Great start to the tour first time brothers have finished 1st and 2nd since 1919
    I've just been reading about 1919, the Pelissier brothers finished 1-2 in stage 2 with Henri beating Francis and then 1-2 again in stage 3, this time Francis beating Henri

    I suspect we're not going to see the Yates' replicating that
  • Bournemouth Addick
    Bournemouth Addick Posts: 16,288
    rina said:
    Gary Poole said:
    Great start to the tour first time brothers have finished 1st and 2nd since 1919
    I've just been reading about 1919, the Pelissier brothers finished 1-2 in stage 2 with Henri beating Francis and then 1-2 again in stage 3, this time Francis beating Henri

    I suspect we're not going to see the Yates' replicating that
    I think the betting regulators and the police would get involved in that case!
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,115
    Bournemouth Addick said:
    rina said:
    Gary Poole said:
    Great start to the tour first time brothers have finished 1st and 2nd since 1919
    I've just been reading about 1919, the Pelissier brothers finished 1-2 in stage 2 with Henri beating Francis and then 1-2 again in stage 3, this time Francis beating Henri

    I suspect we're not going to see the Yates' replicating that
    I think the betting regulators and the police would get involved in that case!
    That's interesting, because as a sport it seems to be filled with people giving way to others for one reason or another. All sorts of temporary allegiances are formed and tacit agreements made, most of which I'm sure we never hear of. What would they have to go on if Simon came in ahead of Adam?
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,115
    Plus, even if it did happen, I don't see how it would be by any agreement or conspiracy anyway. Imagine how competitive you'd have to be to make it to the top echelons of professional cycling. That doesn't sound like the sort of person who would give a race away to a twin bother for the sake of family unity. And I can't imagine someone that competitive being very happy living the rest of his life with the thought that his biggest race win ever came because his brother gifted it to him.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,889
    edited July 2023
    Stig said:
    I can't imagine someone that competitive being very happy living the rest of his life with the thought that his biggest race win ever came because it was gifted it to him.
    Part of me keeps hoping that Cavendish might be gifted his 35th win, especially if its in Paris

    Equally though, you have to listen to how he speaks about the Tour - If you can claim you've won a single Stage at the Tour, then you've pretty much got it made in Cycling. So be ridiculous for someone to hand over a Stage win, as they'll never know if they'll ever be in that scenario again.

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  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,276
    Bournemouth Addick said:
    rina said:
    Gary Poole said:
    Great start to the tour first time brothers have finished 1st and 2nd since 1919
    I've just been reading about 1919, the Pelissier brothers finished 1-2 in stage 2 with Henri beating Francis and then 1-2 again in stage 3, this time Francis beating Henri

    I suspect we're not going to see the Yates' replicating that
    I think the betting regulators and the police would get involved in that case!
    Do they get involved in Formula One when the junior driver is told to let the senior one through? 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,889
    iaitch said:
    Bournemouth Addick said:
    rina said:
    Gary Poole said:
    Great start to the tour first time brothers have finished 1st and 2nd since 1919
    I've just been reading about 1919, the Pelissier brothers finished 1-2 in stage 2 with Henri beating Francis and then 1-2 again in stage 3, this time Francis beating Henri

    I suspect we're not going to see the Yates' replicating that
    I think the betting regulators and the police would get involved in that case!
    Do they get involved in Formula One when the junior driver is told to let the senior one through? 
    F1 is primarily a Constructor Sport... It just so happens that the Drivers Championship gets more prestige.

    Its why Red Bull wont hesitate to get rid of Perez, if they feel he cant help deliver the WCC

    Formula 2 would be a better example - Vesti came up behind his team mate Bearman in todays race... They were on different strategies and Vesti was the "race leader" - Bearman had absolutely no obligation to simply let him by (although he did), because team orders don't exist in the Junior Series.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,889
    Great cat and mouse ending to the Stage.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,076
    Great finish 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,889
    Funny seeing Pogacar taking the piss out of van Aert's reaction during the warm down.

    Good to see Pidcock in P4
  • rina
    rina Posts: 2,337
    fantastic finish but poor form from vingergaard at the end imo
  • Gary Poole
    Gary Poole Posts: 1,874
    There was a race recently can’t remember which one where two UAE riders were ahead of the bunch and rolled across the finish one slightly ahead of the other to take first and second. It was shown afterwards just before that them playing rock, paper, scissors to decide who won. I think they got sanctioned for it later, but can’t remember.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,889
    edited July 2023
    I'm not going to enjoy a single Sprint this Tour

    Nope not today as suspected
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,076
    Cav looked good and was happy at the end … good sign 
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,076
    Tomorrows sprint suits him more 

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  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,238
    edited July 2023
    stonemuse said:
    Tomorrows sprint suits him more 
    Don't think I can bear it if we have to wait for him to make it all the way to Paris, but it would be such a fitting climax if he makes it through the mountains and does it on the Champs.

    Fingers crossed for tomorrow though. The sooner the better. 🤞
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,889
    Saw a tweet after the Sprint... Cavendish's top speed was slightly faster than Philipsen

    So the speed is there for him
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,889
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,889
    Decent read here talking about him too about his career

    How Mark Cavendish became a Tour de France legend – according to fierce rivals and loyal teammates | The Independent

    Love this last line, and its actually true... Its not Merckx's record anymore

    “Do you know what bothers me,” Cavendish said recently. “Everyone calls it Merckx’s record. It’s not Merckx’s record, it’s our record. I won’t break his record; I’ll break our record.”
  • Gary Poole
    Gary Poole Posts: 1,874
    Got to like Cav and how he wears his heart on his sleeve and won’t tolerate journalists provocative questioning.

    I think he held back from getting into a dangerous position today, I’m sure if an opportunity presented itself he would have gone for it, but that finish could easily have ended up with someone in the barriers and tour over. If he’s got the legs and today and the end of the Giro looks like he has then I’m sure he will get his chance and take it. Would be a fitting end to an amazing career.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,889
    edited July 2023
    DAMNIT... He hesitated!! - Was forced to check as he sprung his Sprint
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,076
    Yup, not his best finish 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,889
    edited July 2023
    Really thought he had it in the bag, with how far forward he was at that final turn.

    Least he didnt go down
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,889
    Just watched the interview with Cavendish on ITV4

    The best consolation if he doesn't win a Stage, is the fact that he appears to be having the time of his life, as he comes to the end of his career.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,076
    Loved the comment from Cadel Evans that he finds it amazing that sprinters notice every milli-second of action around them and can react so quickly 

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