ULEZ Checker

Just read an interesting article that reckons the expanded ULEZ is only a preliminary step.

Once cameras are set up they will then probably be used to charge all cars a further road tax in the near future.

Hope somebody stops these greedy ####### soon.

operationpig said:

Khan preaches all things green yet he was cought out using his gas guzzling range rover along with other range rover security cars just to walk his dogs, when I go into London the amount of cameras you see are everywhere to catch you out and fine you, 1 wheel in a yellow box will land you 100 quid, if you're a little over a white line you will be fined, it goes on.

People are just getting fleeced and Khan is the typical hypocritical arrogant smug arsehole you guys have to put up with.

Anyway at least Wednesday are top of the League ! 😆 

Hope you get promoted, we need the big clubs promoted this season. 

Fumbluff said:

I’d happily pay all the fines time and time again as long as I didn’t have to live in a shithole like Sheffield. 

Oh hi piggy…

Sheffield like any City has its bad parts but personally most of it are on the verge of being in the peak district or Derbyshire borders making it appealing to many Londoners coming up, trust me they all say ! 

Hartleypete said:

Just read an interesting article that reckons the expanded ULEZ is only a preliminary step.

Once cameras are set up they will then probably be used to charge all cars a further road tax in the near future.

Hope somebody stops these greedy ####### soon.

But once all cars are electric they'll have to use road pricing to replace the income from fuel duty. It's the only sensible way of replacing it

Same, my motor is £20 a year to tax but will cost me £12.50 each time I want to go past the South Circular and now Dartford. These things are never for the benefit of the environment, its a cash grab. Can anyone tell me hand on heart that London has less vehicles clogging up its road network now than it did when the congestion charge and ULEZ came into play?  I guarantee they can't and I say that because MP's would have not shut up if it had 

Carter said:

Same, my motor is £20 a year to tax but will cost me £12.50 each time I want to go past the South Circular and now Dartford. These things are never for the benefit of the environment, its a cash grab. Can anyone tell me hand on heart that London has less vehicles clogging up its road network now than it did when the congestion charge and ULEZ came into play?  I guarantee they can't and I say that because MP's would have not shut up if it had 

The ULEZ isn't about reducing the number of vehicles, but about improving air quality by removing older vehicles.

I can't see ULEZ ever charging electric vehicles. I can imagine that the pollutant level will get stricter over time (and to be honest it should). 

rananegra said:

I can't see ULEZ ever charging electric vehicles. I can imagine that the pollutant level will get stricter over time (and to be honest it should). 

It won't be ulez charging electric vehicles. It will be another scheme like pay per mile

Raith_C_Chattonell said:

A High Court challenge by five Conservative-led councils against Mayor of London Sadiq Khan’s intention to expand the capital’s ultra low emission zone (Ulez) will be heard today and tomorrow.

Mr Justice Swift is expected to give his ruling at a later date.

The outer-London boroughs involved are Bexley, Bromley, Harrow and Hillingdon along with Surrey County Council.  The new borders will reach Buckinghamshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent and Surrey. 

Justice Swift!! You couldn't make it up.

Boris could have given Kahn the money to keep TFL afloat thru the pandemic but out of spite and party political childishness he didn't - he lent him the money and put stringent conditions on the loan.  Expanded ULEZ is part of the LA having to make the numbers add up.  Tory bleating about it now is spiteful childish hypocrisy and cynically forgetful.
At the same time inner cities all over the country are getting some sort of clean-air/traffic restrictions/road-pricing scheme because air quality in our cities is fatally dangerous.
At the boundaries of change there are always some who are worst affected.
None of the nay sayers have come up with the first scintilla of an alternative.  If LA doesn't massively increase revenue it and/or TFL haveto go bust cos the craven hypocrites at tory central office refused to bail out TFL - an essential public service - when they supported all manner of business they deemed politically expedient and plenty that just bulldozed billions back to them and their friends.
I'll get a lot of shrieking clamour about political bias but the TFL pandemic financial decision was low grade political chicanery and this is the payoff.
One more reminder, if any were needed, that you the individual don't matter a damn to them, never did, if you're poorer than them you're beneath contempt, even if you voted them into power in the suburbs, you're just proles, cannon fodder. 
FWIW I've never voted Labour in my life.

letthegoodtimesroll said:

This charging will eventually come in everywhere so it’s better to be at the start of it when your old banger is still worth something to the rest of the country than later down the line when nobody will want to buy it off you. 

No-one is suggesting you look for a divorce over it.

MrOneLung said:

killerandflash said:

O-Randy-Hunt said:

rananegra said:

I can't see ULEZ ever charging electric vehicles. I can imagine that the pollutant level will get stricter over time (and to be honest it should). 

It won't be ulez charging electric vehicles. It will be another scheme like pay per mile

We'll have to have pay per mile to replace the current duty on petrol and diesel which brings in vast amounts of revenue for the government. With electric cars being completely "online" it'll be easy to do.

what do you mean electric cars are online ?

Being digital the authorities will be able to log and indeed control them far more easily than ICE vehicles.

MrOneLung said:

killerandflash said:

MrOneLung said:

killerandflash said:

O-Randy-Hunt said:

rananegra said:

I can't see ULEZ ever charging electric vehicles. I can imagine that the pollutant level will get stricter over time (and to be honest it should). 

It won't be ulez charging electric vehicles. It will be another scheme like pay per mile

We'll have to have pay per mile to replace the current duty on petrol and diesel which brings in vast amounts of revenue for the government. With electric cars being completely "online" it'll be easy to do.

what do you mean electric cars are online ?

Being digital the authorities will be able to log and indeed control them far more easily than ICE vehicles.

I dont get how - you dont log in, it doesnt send mileage figures anywhere

My car has an ICE. But it regularly sends my 'phone a status report showing mileage, fuel level and whether tyre pressures, oil, etc are okay and says where it is parked. That's only a very short step away from having per mile road tolls. (The sooner the better in my view. Fuel duty replaced and road tax finally gone, well, maybe not the latter.)

BTW, electric cars, being much heavy than ICE cars are rapidly chewing up our road network. Not the motorways and trunk roads but local roads on housing estates, etc which were not designed to take the extra weight on a regular basis. The potholes will only be getting worse folks.  https://www.energylivenews.com/2023/06/27/evs-cause-twice-the-road-damage-of-petrol-vehicles-study-reveals/

Jints said:

cafcfan said:

MrOneLung said:

killerandflash said:

MrOneLung said:

killerandflash said:

O-Randy-Hunt said:

rananegra said:

I can't see ULEZ ever charging electric vehicles. I can imagine that the pollutant level will get stricter over time (and to be honest it should). 

It won't be ulez charging electric vehicles. It will be another scheme like pay per mile

We'll have to have pay per mile to replace the current duty on petrol and diesel which brings in vast amounts of revenue for the government. With electric cars being completely "online" it'll be easy to do.

what do you mean electric cars are online ?

Being digital the authorities will be able to log and indeed control them far more easily than ICE vehicles.

I dont get how - you dont log in, it doesnt send mileage figures anywhere

My car has an ICE. But it regularly sends my 'phone a status report showing mileage, fuel level and whether tyre pressures, oil, etc are okay and says where it is parked. That's only a very short step away from having per mile road tolls. (The sooner the better in my view. Fuel duty replaced and road tax finally gone, well, maybe not the latter.)

BTW, electric cars, being much heavy than ICE cars are rapidly chewing up our road network. Not the motorways and trunk roads but local roads on housing estates, etc which were not designed to take the extra weight on a regular basis. The potholes will only be getting worse folks.  https://www.energylivenews.com/2023/06/27/evs-cause-twice-the-road-damage-of-petrol-vehicles-study-reveals/

Perhaps not. 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jul/04/toyota-claims-battery-breakthrough-electric-cars

"Toyota says it has made a technological breakthrough that will allow it to halve the weight, size and cost of batteries, in what could herald a major advance for electric vehicles"

"Kaita said the company had developed ways to make batteries more durable and believed it could now make a solid-state battery with a range of 1,200km (745 miles) that could charge in 10 minutes or less."

Gamechanger if it all pans out.

Solid state batteries have always been the future in this tech but we've been waiting for companies to actually crack the technology. 

Parts of the car (or future houses) will be made of batteries e.g. the chassis will be the battery. Its incredible to think.