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Next Manager Search - August 2023

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  • Next Manager thread turned into a what formation should we play.
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  • NabySarr said:
    So May up front on his own or only playing with 2 central midfielders. Great. Central midfield is the only area we are actually good with depth so not sure only playing 2 is a good idea 

    I still think the 3-5-2 which solves both of those issues is better. And you wouldn’t even need to play CBT at wing back now we have Edun. So in tougher games like Oxford we wouldn’t need to do it, but it would be a good option for easier games.

    The squad has been really poorly put together, not all of that is this summers fault but it really doesn’t look like there has been a plan. Holden clearly wanted to play 3-5-2. So why wasn’t a left sided centre back a priority? We’ve only signed 1 wing back and let 2 leave. We haven’t signed a partner for May. From pre-season game 1 it was clear this was how Holden wanted to play but our recruitment hasn’t helped him at all 
    Didn't he sign one in Thomas? 

    What's wrong with 2 central midfielders? Anyway, 2 of the formations I suggested would be 3 central midfielders! 
  • edited August 2023
    barstool said:
    The rush to sack Holden is strange, either they have someone lined up or contractually maybe an extra compensation was about to cost them more after so many games etc. 
    They needed someone to blame in a hurry, and wanted to give the impression of a decisive, strong leadership who, how does it go?  "don't do failure".  Because they are American.  Apparently that makes a difference.
  • The only person worse than Lee Johnson would be Neil Fucking Lennon!!!
    Is Neil Fucking Lennon any relation to Neil Lennon?  Amazing coincidence if not.
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    Didn't he sign one in Thomas? 

    What's wrong with 2 central midfielders? Anyway, 2 of the formations I suggested would be 3 central midfielders! 
    We need more than one. I think it’s clear he signed Thomas to be back up, otherwise he’d have started every game this season.

    Nothing wrong with 2 central midfielders but there is a good reason 4-4-2 is not used by many good sides anymore. It’s also our strength when we have Dobson Camara and Fraser fit we’ve got one of the best midfields in the league and there’s 3 of them. 

    4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 are definitely options, but would not get the best out of May. He scored 20+ goals for 2 seasons in a row playing in a front 2, it seems silly to sign him and then play him on his own up front and then act surprised when he doesn’t repeat it. 

    For me a front 2 is crucial and then we should work back from there, so either 4-4-2 or 3-5-2 would be my preferences. Our lack of full backs and good central midfield options would make me lean towards the 3-5-2 
  • And here comes the FFP line, like clockwork. 

    Truth is, these guys think they can do it on the cheap and reduce losses because they're 'smart', we've heard it all before.

    It will fail and we can see it happening only a month in. 
    If any of them were that smart, they'd stop wasting/spending so much paying off managers
  • Redrobo said:
    Next Manager thread turned into a what formation should we play.
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    Is that not an important part of who the next manager should be? We need one that fits the squad we’ve got. Th best of the options suggested so far Leam Richardson, Darren Moore, Lee Bowyer etc have all favoured 3 at the back systems in the past 
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  • Swisdom said:
    I believe there is mileage in Nathan Jones and particularly in Appleton.

    Johnson didn’t work out at Sunderland and I’m pretty positive he’s not on Methven’s Christmas card list 

    Wilder - too dour and not been a roaring success for a little while. I believe there is also history with the smt from Oxford days
    Appleton has always been trusted by the big teams to work with their best young players on loan. So of course we will hire him after the transfer window closes! 
  • The amount of players at Charlton has decreased by 7 since January. I haven't moved any goalposts.
    The following players made at least one league start last season:
    Dobson, Rak-Sakyi, Fraser, Clare, Payne, Inniss, Morgan, Leaburn, Sessegnon, Blackett-Taylor, Maynard-Brewer, Stockley, T. Campbell, Kirk, O’Connell, Hector, Wollacott, Bonne, Thomas, Egbo, Ness, Lavelle, Aneke, Kanu, McGrandles, Kilkenny, Clayden, Jaiyesimi, Mitchell, Kane, Penney, Chin, MacGillivray

    Players that have made at least one league start (or signings that are expected to do so, Campbell basically) that didn’t last season:
    Jones, May, Edun, Asiimwe, Anderson, Camara, Taylor, Isted, Elerewe, C. Campbell.



    So I make it 16 of 33 players that actually contributed in the league last season who are no longer at the club.

    In their place so far we have 10 new players that have made first team league starts that didn’t last season. and the season is only five games old.

    We’re not that far behind. And I certainly wouldn’t want us signing another 7 players without more outgoings.
  • Leuth said:
    What is this insistence that Bowyer is one of the best options? Are we like an abused spouse compulsively going back for more? 
    You must have forgotten about his initial impact when he got us into the play offs against the odds when we were destined for a mid table finish. That's the sort of impact we need again for which Bowyer has a proven track record.
  • The following players made at least one league start last season:
    Dobson, Rak-Sakyi, Fraser, Clare, Payne, Inniss, Morgan, Leaburn, Sessegnon, Blackett-Taylor, Maynard-Brewer, Stockley, T. Campbell, Kirk, O’Connell, Hector, Wollacott, Bonne, Thomas, Egbo, Ness, Lavelle, Aneke, Kanu, McGrandles, Kilkenny, Clayden, Jaiyesimi, Mitchell, Kane, Penney, Chin, MacGillivray

    Players that have made at least one league start (or signings that are expected to do so, Campbell basically) that didn’t last season:
    Jones, May, Edun, Asiimwe, Anderson, Camara, Taylor, Isted, Elerewe, C. Campbell.



    So I make it 16 of 33 players that actually contributed in the league last season who are no longer at the club.

    In their place so far we have 10 new players that have made first team league starts that didn’t last season. and the season is only five games old.

    We’re not that far behind. And I certainly wouldn’t want us signing another 7 players without more outgoings.
    Regardless, this thread is meant to be about potential new managers and it’s being turned into a moan about Methven and the owners being cheap again. Like every other thread it seems.

  • Interesting input. 

    Can anyone remember what Appleton was like as a manager, we've memed him into oblivion that I genuinely have no idea what he is anymore.
    Shocking, my in laws are all Blackpool season ticket holders and the football was awful, he was a major reason they went down last season. 


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  • Nathan Jones or Darren Moore would be good appointments but I can't see it happening tbh
  • We're going to need a snub list 

  • Interesting input. 

    Can anyone remember what Appleton was like as a manager, we've memed him into oblivion that I genuinely have no idea what he is anymore.
    His experience that is relevant:

    - Oxford: took over in 2014 as a League 2 club, got them promoted in his second season and they finished 8th in League 1 in his third and final season there.

    - Lincoln: took over recently promoted club after they got promoted under Cowley. Led them to 16th, 5th and 17th in his three seasons.

    - Blackpool: appointed to the Championship club after their promotion when Critchley left, sacked seven months in with Blackpool in 23rd.

    Outside of that, various assistant and coaching gigs at Leicester, West Brom.

  • Interesting input. 

    Can anyone remember what Appleton was like as a manager, we've memed him into oblivion that I genuinely have no idea what he is anymore.
    Plays attractive football but doesn’t get results. 

    As I said further up the thread he’s good at getting good PL loans, as due to the football he plays the Prem teams trust him to coach their youngsters. We’ve got a young squad so that would be a positive, but one look at his win rate and only having 1 promotion (Oxford 2016 2nd in League 2) having managed in the EFL for quite a while I would say it would be very underwhelming 
  • fenaddick said:
    Pretty insulting to ask Powell to do it as interim to be honest 
    I expect a contributing factor to turning it down - although he may of course have bigger fish to fry.
  • edited August 2023
    The following players made at least one league start last season:
    Dobson, Rak-Sakyi, Fraser, Clare, Payne, Inniss, Morgan, Leaburn, Sessegnon, Blackett-Taylor, Maynard-Brewer, Stockley, T. Campbell, Kirk, O’Connell, Hector, Wollacott, Bonne, Thomas, Egbo, Ness, Lavelle, Aneke, Kanu, McGrandles, Kilkenny, Clayden, Jaiyesimi, Mitchell, Kane, Penney, Chin, MacGillivray

    Players that have made at least one league start (or signings that are expected to do so, Campbell basically) that didn’t last season:
    Jones, May, Edun, Asiimwe, Anderson, Camara, Taylor, Isted, Elerewe, C. Campbell.



    So I make it 16 of 33 players that actually contributed in the league last season who are no longer at the club.

    In their place so far we have 10 new players that have made first team league starts that didn’t last season. and the season is only five games old.

    We’re not that far behind. And I certainly wouldn’t want us signing another 7 players without more outgoings.
    Anderson, Asiimwe and Elerewe were all at the club last season and available for selection. 

    We have hollowed out our squad and forced Academy players into positions they shouldn't be (starting every game playing 90 minutes) to fill the gaps. 

    No wonder every manager is turning us down. 
  • Cheers guys. 

    Yeah, keep searching maybe....
  • Nathan Jones would be an excellent appointment at this level. Although, his record isn't great anywhere except Luton
  • DubaiCAFC said:
    Can we please do away with CBT as Wing Back, it really doesn't work!


    Could you ask your contact to buy some more players then. 
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