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Next Manager Search - August 2023
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I am a big admirer of the Cowleys but I fear joining you would be a bad career move. Charlton Athletic appears to be in rather a mess. Methven and Rodwell are not men I regard highly and I'm glad neither is involved with my club anymore.ProperCharlton said:I've wanted Danny Cowley to be our manager for a long time. I will be delighted if it finally happens.
I can never understand the negativity from so many regarding the Cowleys. Few people have worked harder and longer to achieve jobs in The EFL. They have succeeded everywhere except Portsmouth. That they didn't take Pompey to the play-offs at least was a massive surprise to me.
If Danny and Nicky are appointed I'll wish them and you the best of luck but for their sakes I would rather they were going somewhere else.12 -
Cowley would be such a vanilla, uninspiring, happy to be middle of the road appointment.
Which pretty much describes what we’ve become.8 -
They weren't successful at Huddersfield..ROKERITE said:
I am a big admirer of the Cowleys but I fear joining you would be a bad career move. Charlton Athletic appears to be in rather a mess. Methven and Rodwell are not men I regard highly and I'm glad neither is involved with my club anymore.ProperCharlton said:I've wanted Danny Cowley to be our manager for a long time. I will be delighted if it finally happens.
I can never understand the negativity from so many regarding the Cowleys. Few people have worked harder and longer to achieve jobs in The EFL. They have succeeded everywhere except Portsmouth. That they didn't take Pompey to the play-offs at least was a massive surprise to me.
If Danny and Nicky are appointed I'll wish them and you the best of luck but for their sakes I would rather they were going somewhere else.
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I think Pearce has the right personality to become a manager - hopefully he will get the chance at some stage.
Whoever we appoint it's not a great time to be inheriting a reatively weak squad with little chance to change it. The lack of experience is worrying.0 -
because it would be really smart to give opposition managers something to watch before they play youRedrobo said:If that training session is anything to go by Cowley is one boring man.Miked up and being filmed and that is the best he could come up with!
I don’t suppose it occurs to him that he could explain why they are doing something, but then he would have to know himself and I am not sure he does.
I really hope it is not him.0 -
Valley11 said:Cowley would be such a vanilla, uninspiring, happy to be middle of the road appointment.
Which pretty much describes what we’ve become.Question...who would be an inspiring and realistic choice of manager?0 -
Oh yes they were. They were appointed when Huddersfield were rock bottom with one point from seven matches. Their remit was to keep the club in The Championship and this they succeeded in doing. Their reward was to be sacked a couple of days later.king addick said:
They weren't successful at Huddersfield..ROKERITE said:
I am a big admirer of the Cowleys but I fear joining you would be a bad career move. Charlton Athletic appears to be in rather a mess. Methven and Rodwell are not men I regard highly and I'm glad neither is involved with my club anymore.ProperCharlton said:I've wanted Danny Cowley to be our manager for a long time. I will be delighted if it finally happens.
I can never understand the negativity from so many regarding the Cowleys. Few people have worked harder and longer to achieve jobs in The EFL. They have succeeded everywhere except Portsmouth. That they didn't take Pompey to the play-offs at least was a massive surprise to me.
If Danny and Nicky are appointed I'll wish them and you the best of luck but for their sakes I would rather they were going somewhere else.21 -
Neither was powell. I'm guessing the huddersfield gig is a difficult one and they are still suffering from loss of parachute money.king addick said:
They weren't successful at Huddersfield..ROKERITE said:
I am a big admirer of the Cowleys but I fear joining you would be a bad career move. Charlton Athletic appears to be in rather a mess. Methven and Rodwell are not men I regard highly and I'm glad neither is involved with my club anymore.ProperCharlton said:I've wanted Danny Cowley to be our manager for a long time. I will be delighted if it finally happens.
I can never understand the negativity from so many regarding the Cowleys. Few people have worked harder and longer to achieve jobs in The EFL. They have succeeded everywhere except Portsmouth. That they didn't take Pompey to the play-offs at least was a massive surprise to me.
If Danny and Nicky are appointed I'll wish them and you the best of luck but for their sakes I would rather they were going somewhere else.0 -
Nobody has a clue...L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:Valley11 said:Cowley would be such a vanilla, uninspiring, happy to be middle of the road appointment.
Which pretty much describes what we’ve become.Question...who would be an inspiring and realistic choice of manager?3 - Sponsored links:
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So what was the point of doing it then?fenaddick said:
because it would be really smart to give opposition managers something to watch before they play youRedrobo said:If that training session is anything to go by Cowley is one boring man.Miked up and being filmed and that is the best he could come up with!
I don’t suppose it occurs to him that he could explain why they are doing something, but then he would have to know himself and I am not sure he does.
I really hope it is not him.0 -
king addick said:
They weren't successful at Huddersfield..ROKERITE said:
I am a big admirer of the Cowleys but I fear joining you would be a bad career move. Charlton Athletic appears to be in rather a mess. Methven and Rodwell are not men I regard highly and I'm glad neither is involved with my club anymore.ProperCharlton said:I've wanted Danny Cowley to be our manager for a long time. I will be delighted if it finally happens.
I can never understand the negativity from so many regarding the Cowleys. Few people have worked harder and longer to achieve jobs in The EFL. They have succeeded everywhere except Portsmouth. That they didn't take Pompey to the play-offs at least was a massive surprise to me.
If Danny and Nicky are appointed I'll wish them and you the best of luck but for their sakes I would rather they were going somewhere else.
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You can say what you wish, but it's just tedious when you see somebody revising what somebody else has said with the deliberate objective of making themselves angry, which you clearly are!Todds_right_hook said:
I'm right you're wrong. It could have been worded better. Very dismissive of everyone else. Telling them to question their sources integrity! How high and mighty is that!paulsturgess said:
How on Earth is that rude? I’d read your post as MUCH more rude and aggressive. He’s just made a simple statement !!Todds_right_hook said:
So your source is right everyone else's source is wrong?Airman Brown said:I’m confident that it’s not true at this point that the club have gone back to Chris Powell. If people are being briefed otherwise then they should doubt the integrity of their sources.
I do not believe that powell is in the running, or bowyer. We will end up with Appleton or Johnson in my opinion but you do come across as very rude and abrupt sometimes
The guy comes across very rude and high and mighty in the majority of his posts and has been called out on it before. But as other posters on here have also suggested, there is a lick Rick rim culture on here!
what is wrong with "I trust my sources who are telling me different, I'm sure you trust yours, let's see how this pans out!
and I'm also making a statement. Is that not allowed because I haven't got a band of arse lickers following me on here?
he didn't say "my source is right everyone else's source is wrong", he didn't say "i'm right you're wrong" and didn't dismiss everyone else. his wording was nowhere near as abrupt or dismissive of that, i read it as a polite note that he has contradictory information from a source he trusts.
And I think you are getting confused about those people on here who tend to agree with / support Airman's views. Rather than arse-licking (a rude, dismissive and abrupt term, by the way?), I would suggest this is merely a reflection of the fact that a large number of Charlton supporters feel that the current owners, the previous owners, the previous owners before them, and the previous owners before them, lack integrity and/or laudable intentions and/or anything vaguely resembling the appropriate level of expertise. I didn't need his help to work this out for myself, but he also thinks this so a lot of Charlton fans I guess therefore tend to agree with a lot of his views.
+, like him or loathe him, think he's self-important/bitter of a crusader of the people, he/Varney (and Powell, more or less), are Charlton supporters which roland, sandgaard, southall, methven, rodwell the list goes on, aren't, so personally on average I'm probably more likely to give more credence to his intel than anything that comes from people who haven't been to SE London and haven't earned my trust. Blood is thicker than water.
Here's hoping one/some of them, earn my trust and respect soon, before we're staring fully at the abyss like Southend.
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I believe these chancers sacked Holden (allegedly by text) with no ‘what next’ in place.
For evidence we have the stupid timing first of all, then the reported (rejected) approach for Ferguson, allegedly Powell, maybe Bowyer. That is quickly followed by the ‘interviewing’ of several other people, allegedly once again. Though ‘interviews’ in football might not be of the type most of us would understand.
For me those elements of the story suggest random thrashing around rather than an organisation that cares about the club, the players or the fans.
Over the months I have repeatedly suggested I want to look ‘no job title but huge influence’ Methven in the eye and get him to answer the question why he wants in at Charlton.
As for the Cowley brothers, well whether they are meh or brilliant is answered with wins and points.
I will say this about Danny Cowley, I tend to sit with visuals on the Directors box at development games played at the Valley, and I certainly remember seeing then Portsmouth manager Cowley at at least one fixture we played, so he is not above doing some scouting and checking in person…as he ought to do mind you.He seemed to be decently regarded by the other football insiders he interacted with at those games. That suggests to me he has knowledge of players and people in the game which usually helps.2 -
I guess he/his agent thought it might raise his profile. Like having cameras in the dressing room, I don’t know why you’d agree to itRedrobo said:
So what was the point of doing it then?fenaddick said:
because it would be really smart to give opposition managers something to watch before they play youRedrobo said:If that training session is anything to go by Cowley is one boring man.Miked up and being filmed and that is the best he could come up with!
I don’t suppose it occurs to him that he could explain why they are doing something, but then he would have to know himself and I am not sure he does.
I really hope it is not him.0 -
Cheers mate, hope you get relegated nowROKERITE said:
I am a big admirer of the Cowleys but I fear joining you would be a bad career move. Charlton Athletic appears to be in rather a mess. Methven and Rodwell are not men I regard highly and I'm glad neither is involved with my club anymore.ProperCharlton said:I've wanted Danny Cowley to be our manager for a long time. I will be delighted if it finally happens.
I can never understand the negativity from so many regarding the Cowleys. Few people have worked harder and longer to achieve jobs in The EFL. They have succeeded everywhere except Portsmouth. That they didn't take Pompey to the play-offs at least was a massive surprise to me.
If Danny and Nicky are appointed I'll wish them and you the best of luck but for their sakes I would rather they were going somewhere else.5 -
Unless something spectacular happens before 11:00 pm tomorrow we’ll be playing with a light and unbalanced squad until at least January. Whoever is considering the position as Charlton manager will have done their homework and know that. Unless there are cast iron guarantees given about future transfer funding I think we can rule out any of Powell, Bowyer, Moore, Jones and Wilder. I also wonder if managers like Richardson and Bonner would risk taking a poison job and stall their careers before they’ve really got going. That leaves Appleton and Cowley and is I suspect why our SMT have those names as definite interviewees. I’d be very surprised if our new man wasn’t one of those two.7
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with no league game for 2 weeks after this Saturday surely the SMT's energy should be spent on recruiting players and leave the manager recruitment until Saturday onwards.7
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I certainly agree that Appleton and Cowley are panic approaches. really nothing on the CV that yells 'this is who we need' which makes it odd why they would even be on a short list. Having read here and there statements like' nobody would want the Charlton job', those are people who would as they are unlikely to get better offers. Of other names out there who have been suggested, Richardson and Moore can both point to recent promotions, which should get them way ahead of the pack. Wlder and Nathan are also in the position of having a better CV to offer, so if Cowley or Appleton get the gig, I'm expecting a Dowie type blow out in around a month.masicat said:Cowley and Appleton are panic managers. Toss of a coin type managers. Short term managers. Has to be Wilder or Bowyer.Fancy being turned down by Ferguson FFS, how low can we go. Would be great now to get up and running and stuff Peterborough at the Valley.
And Ferguson? Why would he jack in a comfy job for an unstable club? And why did we need to ask a manager who is employed when there are lots who aren't? All in all, nothing adds up right now, or at leat, it doesn't add up in a way that inspires the fans.2 -
Cowley is an off-the-shelf League One manger imo. Had had some successful in lifting small teams (Braintree, Lincoln), but struggled to make any progress with the two bigger clubs he’s had a chance with.He’s only 44, understands this league well and I can see him having some success at lower levels again in the future, not 100% Charlton at this stage in time is the right club for him.13
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Powell or Jones. Simple.L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:Valley11 said:Cowley would be such a vanilla, uninspiring, happy to be middle of the road appointment.
Which pretty much describes what we’ve become.Question...who would be an inspiring and realistic choice of manager?3 -
We also don’t know which in work managers have been approached and knocked us back apart from Ferguson. I’d guess there are others.0
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The Cowley's have had success throughout the lower leagues with very direct teams, but haven't proved they can shape a side with better players. When we beat them 3-0 last night season, they had some quality in the lineup, and yet were still lumping high balls out to the wing in order to try and win throws up the pitch.
They've had players like Pack, Owen Dale, Bishop, Ogilvie, Rafferty and Curtis - would snap Pompey's hand off for any of those - and yet they finished 10th and were 12th when sacked.
(I also remember them playing Ogilvie on the wrong side to try to counter CBT and Conor got slaughtered).
I don't think they're right for this job at all.
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There's a giant mugshot of Danny Cowley on the U. Greenwich Avery Hill indoor sports hall wall. Gonna go to winter cricket nets and point at the guy and be all "this is MY manager" as we climb to 17th in the table17
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Hoping this is more Methven PR tactics, put Cowley and Appleton out there so that when it’s Leam Richardson instead everyone is happy4
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You could always practice your pull hook against it mate 😈.Leuth said:There's a giant mugshot of Danny Cowley on the U. Greenwich Avery Hill indoor sports hall wall. Gonna go to winter cricket nets and point at the guy and be all "this is MY manager" as we climb to 17th in the table0 -
Dream teamValley11 said:
Powell or Jones. Simple.L0rd_M0ntagu3 said:Valley11 said:Cowley would be such a vanilla, uninspiring, happy to be middle of the road appointment.
Which pretty much describes what we’ve become.Question...who would be an inspiring and realistic choice of manager?
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It's to the right-hander's off-side, so maybe my switch-hit (which I HAVE)RedChaser said:
You could always practice your pull hook against it mate 😈.Leuth said:There's a giant mugshot of Danny Cowley on the U. Greenwich Avery Hill indoor sports hall wall. Gonna go to winter cricket nets and point at the guy and be all "this is MY manager" as we climb to 17th in the table1 -
Has JFH put his name in the hat again?
Surely he has a chance now? 😜3 -
I must say I am surprised to not have seen Paul Cooks name mentioned. I know he had a bad year at Ipswich but before that a lot of our fans wanted him. Done well at Chesterfield as well.8
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