Whoever the new manager is, I’m not expecting miracles. We need a major reboot at the club from top to bottom. Even with our best players fit and playing each week we’re barely top six material as it stands. Recruit three starters tomorrow and I might change my mind, but can’t see that happening.
Still, fingers crossed eh. Same procedure as every year James.
At the moment winning a game would feel like a miracle. What I don’t want from any more managers is all the PR nonsense, pub with the fans, trip the museum (although it’s fantastic), and all the other gaining a deep appreciation of the club and its fans nonsense. It’s been done time and time again by failed managers and it’s too easy. Just get the best out of the players.
No disrespect intended to Dubai or Damo, but if this is being briefed by someone in a position to know, directly or indirectly, I am confident they are not telling the truth.
Chatting to a colleague today who is an ex professional, played in the lower leagues. He’s still around the scene and knows a few current players.
Mentioned to me today that he’d been chatting to a Charlton player (I won’t mention names), this player said he was not surprised Holden got sacked, supposedly there was no structure to the training, players got away with things and Holden really lost control, preferring to be one of the lads.
I have no reason to doubt anything my colleague told me, and it also explains why our players look spent after 70 minutes!
Oh and he mentioned that Chuks has had another setback!!
Does add up given the general feedback when he joined.
Methven or Scott (can't find the quote online but stand by it): "Great on the grass, the players love him"
No disrespect intended to Dubai or Damo, but if this is being briefed by someone in a position to know, directly or indirectly, I am confident they are not telling the truth.
Fair enough Airman, I trust the person that I get my information from, sometimes it is wrong. But a lot of the time it is correct.
Maybe it is a bit of a PR stunt, but let's see.
For the record, Powell certainly wouldn't be my first choice, lovely guy, and did an amazing job for us, but I think he is better suited to a coaching role, like he has been with England and Spurs.. His spells at Huddersfield and Southend wasn't the best! And I am not sure this type of ownership model will work for him, and I wouldn't want to see him go through the mill, as have to much respect for him!
Cowley would be hugely uninspiring. Down naff-all since leaving Lincoln.
2019/20: full season with Huddersfield, finished 18th in the Championship
2020/21: 12 games at the back end of the season with Portsmouth - winning six (two draws, four losses). Team were in 10th and ended the season in 8th.
2021/22: full season with Portsmouth, finished 10th. 20 games won out of 46 (13 draws, 13 losses)
2022/23: 22 games with Portsmouth, sacked after 1-3 defeat to Charlton. Team was in 12th and finished season in 8th. Record: W7 D10 L5
Very respectable record imo, would certainly steer us closer to promotion than relegation and for now that will do. We get it wrong we could be in a relegation fight in all seriousness.
The amount of draws is staggering though, makes me wonder if it's a playstyle issue or player quality issue. It's not like Huddersfield or Portsmouth have squads overflowing with quality and they were pivotal in Lincoln's growth as a club, could argue thet wouldn't be where they are now without him.
Out of all the realistic options this seems the most sound to me if we aren't including ex Charlton managers..
I can’t see it happening next week, this will drag on for weeks, it’s finding the right person, alll the legal stuff to go through etc, this isn’t going to be a quick process in my book.
The fact we’ve had a game called off, also gives us more time.
The question for me is, will we be happy with the replacement?
Announced next week after the transfer window shuts. So plenty of narrative till January to call out the buzz words: Patience, inherited, targets...
Cowley would be hugely uninspiring. Down naff-all since leaving Lincoln.
2019/20: full season with Huddersfield, finished 18th in the Championship
2020/21: 12 games at the back end of the season with Portsmouth - winning six (two draws, four losses). Team were in 10th and ended the season in 8th.
2021/22: full season with Portsmouth, finished 10th. 20 games won out of 46 (13 draws, 13 losses)
2022/23: 22 games with Portsmouth, sacked after 1-3 defeat to Charlton. Team was in 12th and finished season in 8th. Record: W7 D10 L5
Not sure if this is supposed to be in favour or against my opinion, but I would say finishing close to the championship relegation zone with a Huddersfield team that was in the premier league the season before, and then mid table mediocrity in league one 3 seasons running with Pompey, a similar sized and funded club to us, is the dictionary definition of doing naff-all.
Cowley would be hugely uninspiring. Down naff-all since leaving Lincoln.
2019/20: full season with Huddersfield, finished 18th in the Championship
2020/21: 12 games at the back end of the season with Portsmouth - winning six (two draws, four losses). Team were in 10th and ended the season in 8th.
2021/22: full season with Portsmouth, finished 10th. 20 games won out of 46 (13 draws, 13 losses)
2022/23: 22 games with Portsmouth, sacked after 1-3 defeat to Charlton. Team was in 12th and finished season in 8th. Record: W7 D10 L5
Not sure if this is supposed to be in favour or against my opinion, but I would say finishing close to the championship relegation zone with a Huddersfield team that was in the premier league the season before, and then mid table mediocrity in league one 3 seasons running with Pompey, a similar sized and funded club to us, is the dictionary definition of doing naff-all.
It wasn’t really intended either way - although I do think your recollection of their season at Huddersfield is a bit harsh. That team was in free fall and they had to turn it around quickly.
I thought they had the full season there but that’s incorrect, they came in after six games & the team they took on had one point from a possible eighteen.
The conclusion I did come to after summarising their last four years is that it’s probably the right fit for where we are as a club right now, as depressing as that will be for some to hear.
Let’s hope, if it is the Cowley brothers, it all clicks for them and for us and they get the League One promotion that they couldn’t manage at Portsmouth.
Chatting to a colleague today who is an ex professional, played in the lower leagues. He’s still around the scene and knows a few current players.
Mentioned to me today that he’d been chatting to a Charlton player (I won’t mention names), this player said he was not surprised Holden got sacked, supposedly there was no structure to the training, players got away with things and Holden really lost control, preferring to be one of the lads.
I have no reason to doubt anything my colleague told me, and it also explains why our players look spent after 70 minutes!
Oh and he mentioned that Chuks has had another setback!!
I thought it weird when Assimwi liked the tweet from the club re holders departure. Why does the last bit not surprise me at all ? You couldn’t make it up mate. Still apparently Wrexham are in for him 😂
That probably makes sense of Holden's statement that Leaving one at the back when we have a corner was the players decision.
Always thought Danny Cowley came across well when seeing him interviewed at Pompey etc.
He is the type of personality that would work well with Andy Scott (which is obviously key) & the fact he comes as a pair with his brother is also useful to us bearing in mind a lot of our coaches have (rightly) left.
I personally think he would be a decent fit. Much prefer the Cowley’s option to journeyman Appleton.
Cowley would be hugely uninspiring. Down naff-all since leaving Lincoln.
2019/20: full season with Huddersfield, finished 18th in the Championship
2020/21: 12 games at the back end of the season with Portsmouth - winning six (two draws, four losses). Team were in 10th and ended the season in 8th.
2021/22: full season with Portsmouth, finished 10th. 20 games won out of 46 (13 draws, 13 losses)
2022/23: 22 games with Portsmouth, sacked after 1-3 defeat to Charlton. Team was in 12th and finished season in 8th. Record: W7 D10 L5
Very respectable record imo, would certainly steer us closer to promotion than relegation and for now that will do. We get it wrong we could be in a relegation fight in all seriousness.
The amount of draws is staggering though, makes me wonder if it's a playstyle issue or player quality issue. It's not like Huddersfield or Portsmouth have squads overflowing with quality and they were pivotal in Lincoln's growth as a club, could argue thet wouldn't be where they are now without him.
Out of all the realistic options this seems the most sound to me if we aren't including ex Charlton managers..
Almost certainly a style issue, at least in part. From memory (and what fans at those clubs said) the idea seems to be going into every game with the primary aim of "not losing" and if you happen to win well that's a bonus.
The actual football is fairly dour and basic but effective.
Expect CBT would be happy too….he tends to always play a blinder against Portsmouth so will be the first name on the team sheet (& not at wing back hopefully!)
I’m confident that it’s not true at this point that the club have gone back to Chris Powell. If people are being briefed otherwise then they should doubt the integrity of their sources.
So your source is right everyone else's source is wrong?
I do not believe that powell is in the running, or bowyer. We will end up with Appleton or Johnson in my opinion but you do come across as very rude and abrupt sometimes
How on Earth is that rude? I’d read your post as MUCH more rude and aggressive. He’s just made a simple statement !!
Whoever the new manager is, I’m not expecting miracles. We need a major reboot at the club from top to bottom. Even with our best players fit and playing each week we’re barely top six material as it stands. Recruit three starters tomorrow and I might change my mind, but can’t see that happening.
Still, fingers crossed eh. Same procedure as every year James.
It's got to the point now that I just don’t trust our new owners. Normally when we are going to sign a new manager I get quite excited as to who it might be. Not this time though as it doesn't matter who he is as he won't be backed sufficiently to see us promoted and will probably be gone come the end of the season.
I’m confident that it’s not true at this point that the club have gone back to Chris Powell. If people are being briefed otherwise then they should doubt the integrity of their sources.
So your source is right everyone else's source is wrong?
I do not believe that powell is in the running, or bowyer. We will end up with Appleton or Johnson in my opinion but you do come across as very rude and abrupt sometimes
How on Earth is that rude? I’d read your post as MUCH more rude and aggressive. He’s just made a simple statement !!
I'm right you're wrong. It could have been worded better. Very dismissive of everyone else. Telling them to question their sources integrity! How high and mighty is that!
The guy comes across very rude and high and mighty in the majority of his posts and has been called out on it before. But as other posters on here have also suggested, there is a lick Rick rim culture on here!
what is wrong with "I trust my sources who are telling me different, I'm sure you trust yours, let's see how this pans out!
and I'm also making a statement. Is that not allowed because I haven't got a band of arse lickers following me on here?
I’m confident that it’s not true at this point that the club have gone back to Chris Powell. If people are being briefed otherwise then they should doubt the integrity of their sources.
So your source is right everyone else's source is wrong?
I do not believe that powell is in the running, or bowyer. We will end up with Appleton or Johnson in my opinion but you do come across as very rude and abrupt sometimes
How on Earth is that rude? I’d read your post as MUCH more rude and aggressive. He’s just made a simple statement !!
I suppose it's rude to insinuate that the people should doubt the integrity of their sources.
That bit didn't need adding. I am confident people are simply sharing what they're being told. I find it interesting either way but then I have no agenda to push.
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Methven or Scott (can't find the quote online but stand by it): "Great on the grass, the players love him"
Bristol City Fans: "Out of his depth"
2020/21: 12 games at the back end of the season with Portsmouth - winning six (two draws, four losses). Team were in 10th and ended the season in 8th.
2021/22: full season with Portsmouth, finished 10th. 20 games won out of 46 (13 draws, 13 losses)
2022/23: 22 games with Portsmouth, sacked after 1-3 defeat to Charlton. Team was in 12th and finished season in 8th. Record: W7 D10 L5
Maybe it is a bit of a PR stunt, but let's see.
For the record, Powell certainly wouldn't be my first choice, lovely guy, and did an amazing job for us, but I think he is better suited to a coaching role, like he has been with England and Spurs.. His spells at Huddersfield and Southend wasn't the best! And I am not sure this type of ownership model will work for him, and I wouldn't want to see him go through the mill, as have to much respect for him!
The amount of draws is staggering though, makes me wonder if it's a playstyle issue or player quality issue. It's not like Huddersfield or Portsmouth have squads overflowing with quality and they were pivotal in Lincoln's growth as a club, could argue thet wouldn't be where they are now without him.
Out of all the realistic options this seems the most sound to me if we aren't including ex Charlton managers..
The conclusion I did come to after summarising their last four years is that it’s probably the right fit for where we are as a club right now, as depressing as that will be for some to hear.
Let’s hope, if it is the Cowley brothers, it all clicks for them and for us and they get the League One promotion that they couldn’t manage at Portsmouth.
Makes no sense, Lincoln success aside, I’m given the impression they promise much, and deliver little.
Quite old school - and very Alan Partridge:
https://youtu.be/dvNZJsnCOsY?si=AKn6BSs5YSfLQRZI
He is the type of personality that would work well with Andy Scott (which is obviously key) & the fact he comes as a pair with his brother is also useful to us bearing in mind a lot of our coaches have (rightly) left.
I personally think he would be a decent fit. Much prefer the Cowley’s option to journeyman Appleton.
The actual football is fairly dour and basic but effective.
Im not buying that.
Same procedure as every year James.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dLMVWU3K3MA
Normally when we are going to sign a new manager I get quite excited as to who it might be.
Not this time though as it doesn't matter who he is as he won't be backed sufficiently to see us promoted and will probably be gone come the end of the season.
The guy comes across very rude and high and mighty in the majority of his posts and has been called out on it before. But as other posters on here have also suggested, there is a lick Rick rim culture on here!
what is wrong with "I trust my sources who are telling me different, I'm sure you trust yours, let's see how this pans out!
and I'm also making a statement. Is that not allowed because I haven't got a band of arse lickers following me on here?
That bit didn't need adding. I am confident people are simply sharing what they're being told. I find it interesting either way but then I have no agenda to push.