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  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,539
    Been offline for the day, come back and found 320 posts added, noticed Appleton's ugly boat being touted as a possible by Rich and gave up....🤷‍♂️🙄
  • DA9
    DA9 Posts: 11,091
    I’ve just seen Keith Peacock walking his dog near his house with his mobile to his ear (legit)
    it’s a sign a tell ya. 
  • ecclesaddick
    ecclesaddick Posts: 390
    I believe Scott has got a very high opinion of himself
  • SomervilleAddick
    SomervilleAddick Posts: 3,575
    I’ve seen it mentioned a few times that this is a 3 window project. I’m not sure if that has been said by one of the management team, but if it has, as a manager I’d want a guarantee I’m here at the end of those windows. The only break I’d give them was if the team gets relegated. Then you have the stability and the time to put this together. Anything less than that is just wishful thinking. 
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,196
    Airman Brown said:
    No disrespect intended to Dubai or Damo, but if this is being briefed by someone in a position to know, directly or indirectly, I am confident they are not telling the truth.


    Todd’sRightHook will melt when he sees this shocking and outrageous rudeness. 
  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,525
    DA9 said:
    I’ve just seen Keith Peacock walking his dog near his house with his mobile to his ear (legit)
    it’s a sign a tell ya. 
    It might have been Wayne Rooney’s phone.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    WellingWill said:
    Some people on here have said that Bowyer should not be manager because apparently he upset some of our players last time with harsh words. That would never do. I surely couldn't imagine the likes of Alex Ferguson or Brian Clough doing anything so dastardly!
    It's laughable isn't it.
    Plenty of our fans would have no doubt called for their sacking. 
    NB It was said Holden was throwing things round the dressing room at Oxford (don't know if true).
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    BetVictor odds about to move as I'm lumping on Chris Powell
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited August 2023
    Covered End said:
    WellingWill said:
    Some people on here have said that Bowyer should not be manager because apparently he upset some of our players last time with harsh words. That would never do. I surely couldn't imagine the likes of Alex Ferguson or Brian Clough doing anything so dastardly!
    It's laughable isn't it.
    Plenty of our fans would have no doubt called for their sacking. 
    NB It was said Holden was throwing things round the dressing room at Oxford (don't know if true).
    Tactics board got the treatment IIRC. Here you go mate as reported in the Times but it’s behind a paywall;

    7 Apr 2023 — When Charlton Athletic were losing at half-time against Oxford United in Dean ... “The tactics board got snapped in half,” Holden recalls.


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  • Gillis
    Gillis Posts: 998
    There's no one in the game I respect more than Chris Powell, and that promotion season was just magic - like being a kid again. And I'm still not over how the Spivs and Roland cut short what he was building at the club. 
    But I don't know if he'd be a success under this set up. A key part of his success was bringing in players with the right character, and I'm not sure he'd have the level of input over transfers that he'd need to build a squad like he did before, let alone the financial backing.
    Also, he had a fantastic coaching and recruitment team around him last time, and they won't all be coming back (I think three of them are currently working at top flight clubs). I believe Alex Dyer is out of work at the moment, so he might be interested, and I'm sure he'd love to work with Powell again, but he might also see League One as a backwards step.
    I'd absolutely love for Powell to come back and finish what he started, but I'd hate for him to come back and not get the backing he deserves.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited August 2023
    RedChaser said:
    Covered End said:
    WellingWill said:
    Some people on here have said that Bowyer should not be manager because apparently he upset some of our players last time with harsh words. That would never do. I surely couldn't imagine the likes of Alex Ferguson or Brian Clough doing anything so dastardly!
    It's laughable isn't it.
    Plenty of our fans would have no doubt called for their sacking. 
    NB It was said Holden was throwing things round the dressing room at Oxford (don't know if true).
    Tactics board got the treatment IIRC.
    Holden said it himself in the post-match interview that he put his foot through the tactics board. He also said that you can't go mental more than twice a season or you lose the player's respect, which may have been where LB went wrong. 

    Still, the allegations of LB bullying were, and still are, total speculation. 
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,702
    DA9 said:
    I’ve just seen Keith Peacock walking his dog near his house with his mobile to his ear (legit)
    it’s a sign a tell ya. 
    Curbs asking if he wants to get the band back together!
  • addick19
    addick19 Posts: 378
    Gribbo said:
    Leuth said:
    At this point, why would anyone be against Powell? It isn't even about his tactics any more. He's a totem, a giant, a man who commands the instant respect of everyone connected with our club, and he left us with his honour intact. Sure we'd probably play some sort of dour safety-first style away from home and put an emphasis on being hard to beat, and sure he'd be outmanouevred by younger coaches now and again, but he's Chris Powell ffs. We need something to lift us. 
    I'd be okay with Powell, but the idea don't get me as excited as some to be totally honest.
    Blimey, I can't get 'excited' about any of the supposed candidates! Just about raising the will power to go on Saturday.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,041
    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/pearce-i-want-do-best-i-can-club

    Interviews today and tomorrow with in and out of work candidates 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    https://www.charltonafc.com/news/pearce-i-want-do-best-i-can-club

    Charlton’s Interim Manager Jason Pearce wants to put his stamp on the team during his time in charge.

    Pearce played 175 times for the Addicks between 2016 and his retirement in 2022, lifting the League One play-off trophy at Wembley in 2019.

    The former Charlton captain is set to take charge of Saturday’s home game against Fleetwood Town while a thorough recruitment process for the permanent Head Coach position continues.

    Club chairman James Rodwell and Technical Director Andy Scott are interviewing a shortlist of potential candidates - some in work and some out of work - today and tomorrow, leaving Pearce focused on getting the best out of his team on Saturday.

    He explained: “My thoughts were to go in, as I did as player, and give 100% to help the team. I’ll make sure the team gives everything and that the players leave everything out there on the pitch.

    “I want to get the team playing how I know the fans want us to play and I’ll look to implement that onto the group. I know quite a lot of the players through playing with them, some I’ve coached and some may not know who I am.

    “There was a conversation with the staff and players [on Monday] and I had to prepare a speech, which hopefully came across alright. The players have been really receptive which has been good.”

    The 35-year-old joined the club’s academy coaching staff following his retirement and was promoted to Senior Professional Development Phase Lead Coach in May after impressing Academy Director Steve Avory in a successful season. He was assistant to Anthony Hayes during the latter’s time as Caretaker Manager in December.

    Pearce took training with the men’s first-team on Monday morning and has been pleased with what he has seen.

    “There has been a really positive vibe at training,” he said. “Over the next few days we’ll be working on the way I’d like us to play. On Thursday, we’ll look at Fleetwood in possession and what we do out of possession. It is important we have a clear plan of what we do with and without the ball.”

    Pearce explained that taking charge on Saturday at The Valley will be a proud moment, given his long association with the club.

    “I have had visions of that moment before, but I didn’t see it happening so soon, to be honest,” he said. “It will be a fantastic moment personally for me and for my family. To go from a player, to captain, to managing the team does make me proud. It’s a fantastic opportunity and I just want to do the best I can for the staff, players and the fans.”

    Pearce, who is being assisted by Hayes, has been joined at the club by former Charlton goalkeeper Stephen Henderson, who has come in to coach the goalkeepers until a permanent Goalkeeper Coach is appointed.




  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    End of the day if we’re working with shirt buttons how much does it really matter who we get in next.  Everyone of them Adkins, Garner, Holden we ripped to shreds in here and some of it warranted, but they all had insufficient resources to mount a real promotion push.  

    You’ve gotta get the loans right, bowyer did that better than the rest.  Hence why I was a tad excited this time yesterday.  One thing we can all agree on, it’s a shit time to support us.  
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    PWADDICK said:
    I love Powelly as much as the next person, but we need someone who is ‘current’ and knows the modern game, he hasn’t managed since 2019, wrong choice in my opinion
    England coach and then at Spurs Academy & you think he doesn't know the modern game?
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,041
    edited August 2023
    The in work bit is what surprises me , I'm wondering if there's maybe some PL2/academy type managers in that group. Because beyond Mark Bonner I'm struggling with names of in work managers that would be of interest. 

    https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league-2/trainervergleich/wettbewerb/GB21
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,274
    MarcusH26 said:
    The in work bit is what surprises me , I'm wondering if there's maybe some PL2/academy type managers in that group. Because beyond Mark Bonner I'm struggling with names of in work managers that would be of interest. 
    Wild of Barrow has been mentioned in a couple of articles
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  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    Manager at Wrexham doing a great job in all that limelight.  Phil something or other.....
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,212
    edited August 2023
    I don’t want another young project type coach, they are long term appointments, we clearly haven’t got the patience for that.  I want someone who’s been there and done it, this league makes me sick.  
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,041
    sam3110 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    The in work bit is what surprises me , I'm wondering if there's maybe some PL2/academy type managers in that group. Because beyond Mark Bonner I'm struggling with names of in work managers that would be of interest. 
    Wild of Barrow has been mentioned in a couple of articles

    Pete Wilds name comes up with a lot of League 1 vacancies it seems. I don't honestly know a whole lot about him bar his stint at Oldham when he was thrown in at the deep end from their academy and won at Fulham in the FA Cup. 
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,702
    Got alot of time for Pearce. Hope he does well and forges a career in coaching as he is really committed to his craft and wants to give it his all. 

    Hopefully he is with us few more years yet. 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,884
    Airman Brown said:
    No disrespect intended to Dubai or Damo, but if this is being briefed by someone in a position to know, directly or indirectly, I am confident they are not telling the truth.


    That's better. Point across without being rude!
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    I want Colin.

    This club needs another Wanker.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,827
    Leuth said:
    At this point, why would anyone be against Powell? It isn't even about his tactics any more. He's a totem, a giant, a man who commands the instant respect of everyone connected with our club, and he left us with his honour intact. Sure we'd probably play some sort of dour safety-first style away from home and put an emphasis on being hard to beat, and sure he'd be outmanouevred by younger coaches now and again, but he's Chris Powell ffs. We need something to lift us. 
    Because in amongst the bonkersness of Charlton, social media, and life in general, over the last 8 years many Charlton fans have developed an unhealthy hobby of hating other Charlton fans. 

    If some like X then others will automatically oppose X. We’d get it with a Bowyer appointment and we’d get it even more with Powell. It’s weird but it’s just how it is. 

    We are a struggling third tier football club. We are not going to get the perfect manager. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,323
    Doesn't sound like Jason will be in the running for the job on a Permanent basis, at least not at this moment in time - If it drags on, and he does well, that might change
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    I would take Bowyer if it were plausible for the club on the basis that he’s 

    - played at the highest level of the game and can probably add something to the likes of Dobson, Taylor, Camara’s and Fraser’s game 
    - he’s always been driven to succeed.  That can work against him, but in the main he’s got all the characteristics of a winner 
    - he may have learnt from recent experiences when it comes to blaming players and lashing out and has changed his approach to man management 
    - he knows the club, the fans and our history

    I would take Powell as well for similar reasons, and I don’t think how it ended for either of them was a fair reflection on the amount of crap they had to both put up with behind the scenes.  Powell with Duchatelet after managing the team on fumes because of the withdrawal of funds from the spivs, and Bowyer for having to sit there with a straight face when dealing with Southall and then again for working with TS after it emerged how egotistical he was.

    based on what’s been said on here, Powell may be more likely, but both of them are probably looking at it from the outside in and based on recent experiences, thinking ‘what’s the point?’.  Powell is in his 50s, has a great reputation as a coach and can get work.  Sentiment aside, this would be a big ask with another group of unknown owners and senior figures who may still well turn out to be cowboys

    After that, we’re in the League One version of Pardew, Pullis, McLaren etc.  I don’t have anything against the Cowleys, I think their record is pretty decent, but they strike me as having reached the peak of their managerial career and we’re catching them on the way down.

    Appleton for me would be a big mistake.  As it would another Garner or Holden.  Unfortunately this is the pond we swim in now, but it does seem as though we’re going round in ever decreasing circles.  I can’t judge this ownership yet, but it’s been a bad start, you can’t argue that.  One win in 6 games, a manager who was their guy in Jan, sacked, some okay signings but what, a day to add 3 or 4 real quality players to turn this team around.  

    I really thought in my gut that in the short term at least, after Orient and seeing May and Camara, maybe it might be okay.  It still might, but imo the new mob have made a shocking start and we’ve got the same old problems  
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,756
    Covered End said:
    PWADDICK said:
    I love Powelly as much as the next person, but we need someone who is ‘current’ and knows the modern game, he hasn’t managed since 2019, wrong choice in my opinion
    England coach and then at Spurs Academy & you think he doesn't know the modern game?
    This with 100 bells on.
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