Why did Charlie Methven and his silly mates even bother going to the trouble of buying the club? It seems like they have no intention of serious investment or any coherent strategic plan.
Starting to think that Methven has a kink for sharing fake transfer rumours/other assorted bullshit with gormless Charlton fans.
It's the only explanation at this point.
Methven & his silly mates make money while his "billionaires" fund the club
I would say 80 precent of our fans wouldn’t have a clue who Martin Pringle is?
Lovely Swedish player - lean and quick.
We has him around 2001 and he was acquired from Benfica.
Those were the days
He ran around like Bambi on Ice... Got his autograph in Bexleyheath Shopping Centre (Along with Anthony Barness) prior to us winning the League @ Blackburn.
I was going to question the Barness autograph, but he was with us until 2000
I genuinely thought he’d left us by 97
He had, then came back. Was in a suit for a pile on at Wembley.
Yes, I remember now. Crazy to think he was still with us by 2000
In regards to us allegedly being turned down I wonder if it's because of what we are offering and if there's an issue with wages and guarantees etc.
With all due respect if you're willing to be interviewed then you're foot is half way out the door from wherever you were/are anyway.
I am personally happy that the Stockport Manager turned us down. All the names that have been mentioned like Appleton, Cowley, Johnson have done better than him and then some.
What now concerns me is why are they saying no? We are offering it on a short term basis, are we offering a low salary, are we saying we don't have money for signings etc.
I don't see it as an insult getting rejected by a manager from a lower league, bigger clubs than us have been rejected by managers, it happens. More so want to know what is being said that is allegedly putting these candidates off
But he hasn’t turned it down has he .
I don't know, hence why I said allegedly, that's what I've read. I've now read two different managers have turned us down.
So I'm just asking if that is the case I wonder if it's because we are offering poor wages, a short term contract or lack of control over transfers etc. If of course we have been turned down
Or the Methven plan when it’s set out in detail is obvious bollocks to anyone in football with half a brain?
One of the Swedish Addicks, who is in touch with Pringle nowadays reminded me that Challinor's then manager Carlton Palmer described it as a "horrendous" tackle, and fined him two weeks wages.
"Horrendous" is actually a pretty good word to describe the state we are in. Here's Pringle's Wiki for the benefit of the apparent 80% who have never heard of him. It was actually during the Grimsby loan spell that Challinor did him. Broke his leg in two places. We registered him for the following season but he never fully recovered and retired in November 2002. Here is Challinor's Wiki. A very impressive long managerial spell at , er, AFC Fylde, cannot be ignored.
It's almost surreal that we are even talking about this no-mark pub team player/manager.
Hard to tell if people are being genuine or facetious when saying legendary managers couldn’t get a tune out this mob. Regardless of how there may be some right crap in this team, a competent manager should be able to out-compete at least 17 of the shite clubs in this division & get top 6.
I’m not accepting the squad is not good enough as an excuse, it’s such a red herring.
These players are not coached correctly & regardless of what Holden said, there was no identity being built, no clear style, you can see that from his incoherent team selections.
Garner was pants in the end but at least you could see a distinct style of play.
Whoever they bring in needs to have a clear and concise idea of how they want to play & stick to it. Like Russell Martin said, have a plan A & don’t worry about b,c,d etc. just make plan A better.
Squad no where near the depth or quality needed for top 6. A competent manager may get the current squad., as it stands, to lower mid table / avoiding relegation. God help the squad for a poor to mediocre manager. .
In regards to us allegedly being turned down I wonder if it's because of what we are offering and if there's an issue with wages and guarantees etc.
With all due respect if you're willing to be interviewed then you're foot is half way out the door from wherever you were/are anyway.
I am personally happy that the Stockport Manager turned us down. All the names that have been mentioned like Appleton, Cowley, Johnson have done better than him and then some.
What now concerns me is why are they saying no? We are offering it on a short term basis, are we offering a low salary, are we saying we don't have money for signings etc.
I don't see it as an insult getting rejected by a manager from a lower league, bigger clubs than us have been rejected by managers, it happens. More so want to know what is being said that is allegedly putting these candidates off
But he hasn’t turned it down has he .
I don't know, hence why I said allegedly, that's what I've read. I've now read two different managers have turned us down.
So I'm just asking if that is the case I wonder if it's because we are offering poor wages, a short term contract or lack of control over transfers etc. If of course we have been turned down
Or the Methven plan when it’s set out in detail is obvious bollocks to anyone in football with half a brain?
But what's the point? I don't know about you but I wouldn't mind being a £1 short of Methven.
Scott and Rodwell have quite a good chance of earning an honest wage for an honest day's work. A decent one at that.
Lenagan isn't on skid row and Warick is a bit of a wild card.
Considering it took them over six months to get the deal done I really can't see what the quick pay day is. TBH I can't even see what the pay day is.
One of the Swedish Addicks, who is in touch with Pringle nowadays reminded me that Challinor's then manager Carlton Palmer described it as a "horrendous" tackle, and fined him two weeks wages.
"Horrendous" is actually a pretty good word to describe the state we are in. Here's Pringle's Wiki for the benefit of the apparent 80% who have never heard of him. It was actually during the Grimsby loan spell that Challinor did him. Broke his leg in two places. We registered him for the following season but he never fully recovered and retired in November 2002. Here is Challinor's Wiki. A very impressive long managerial spell at , er, AFC Fylde, cannot be ignored.
It's almost surreal that we are even talking about this no-mark pub team player/manager.
In regards to us allegedly being turned down I wonder if it's because of what we are offering and if there's an issue with wages and guarantees etc.
With all due respect if you're willing to be interviewed then you're foot is half way out the door from wherever you were/are anyway.
I am personally happy that the Stockport Manager turned us down. All the names that have been mentioned like Appleton, Cowley, Johnson have done better than him and then some.
What now concerns me is why are they saying no? We are offering it on a short term basis, are we offering a low salary, are we saying we don't have money for signings etc.
I don't see it as an insult getting rejected by a manager from a lower league, bigger clubs than us have been rejected by managers, it happens. More so want to know what is being said that is allegedly putting these candidates off
But he hasn’t turned it down has he .
I don't know, hence why I said allegedly, that's what I've read. I've now read two different managers have turned us down.
So I'm just asking if that is the case I wonder if it's because we are offering poor wages, a short term contract or lack of control over transfers etc. If of course we have been turned down
Or the Methven plan when it’s set out in detail is obvious bollocks to anyone in football with half a brain?
But what's the point? I don't know about you but I wouldn't mind being a £1 short of Methven.
Scott and Rodwell have quite a good chance of earning an honest wage for an honest day's work. A decent one at that.
Lenagan isn't on skid row and Warick is a bit of a wild card.
Considering it took them over six months to get the deal done I really can't see what the quick pay day is. TBH I can't even see what the pay day is.
It’s a free bet for them, though, using other people’s money.
One of the Swedish Addicks, who is in touch with Pringle nowadays reminded me that Challinor's then manager Carlton Palmer described it as a "horrendous" tackle, and fined him two weeks wages.
"Horrendous" is actually a pretty good word to describe the state we are in. Here's Pringle's Wiki for the benefit of the apparent 80% who have never heard of him. It was actually during the Grimsby loan spell that Challinor did him. Broke his leg in two places. We registered him for the following season but he never fully recovered and retired in November 2002. Here is Challinor's Wiki. A very impressive long managerial spell at , er, AFC Fylde, cannot be ignored.
It's almost surreal that we are even talking about this no-mark pub team player/manager.
At least he didn't smash up mcdonalds and punch his team mate though #propercharlton
Its almost like a "no mark" that has been successful in the 4 divisions below us has no chance of stepping up a league.
I suspect he will manage in league 1, one way or another, before we get out of it.
That pub team player played in a League Cup final, have you? Has your "pub team", because if he was a pub team player you support a pub team, ever even been in a league Cup final?
Isn't it fine if you don't want Challinor to be our manager because of that tackle, and also fine if you don't mind him being our manager? Neither seem like outrageous points of view to me
Isn't it fine if you don't want Challinor to be our manager because of that tackle, and also fine if you don't mind him being our manager? Neither seem like outrageous points of view to me
"no-mark pub team player/manager" is a bit over the top no?
In regards to us allegedly being turned down I wonder if it's because of what we are offering and if there's an issue with wages and guarantees etc.
With all due respect if you're willing to be interviewed then you're foot is half way out the door from wherever you were/are anyway.
I am personally happy that the Stockport Manager turned us down. All the names that have been mentioned like Appleton, Cowley, Johnson have done better than him and then some.
What now concerns me is why are they saying no? We are offering it on a short term basis, are we offering a low salary, are we saying we don't have money for signings etc.
I don't see it as an insult getting rejected by a manager from a lower league, bigger clubs than us have been rejected by managers, it happens. More so want to know what is being said that is allegedly putting these candidates off
But he hasn’t turned it down has he .
I don't know, hence why I said allegedly, that's what I've read. I've now read two different managers have turned us down.
So I'm just asking if that is the case I wonder if it's because we are offering poor wages, a short term contract or lack of control over transfers etc. If of course we have been turned down
Or the Methven plan when it’s set out in detail is obvious bollocks to anyone in football with half a brain?
But what's the point? I don't know about you but I wouldn't mind being a £1 short of Methven.
Scott and Rodwell have quite a good chance of earning an honest wage for an honest day's work. A decent one at that.
Lenagan isn't on skid row and Warick is a bit of a wild card.
Considering it took them over six months to get the deal done I really can't see what the quick pay day is. TBH I can't even see what the pay day is.
It’s a free bet for them, though, using other people’s money.
Opportunity cost though? Are "we" paying Scott more than someone else would?
Don't they only get a serious payout if we get to the premiership? Or at least established championship. They can't make " proper" money by being shit in league 1 can they?
One of the Swedish Addicks, who is in touch with Pringle nowadays reminded me that Challinor's then manager Carlton Palmer described it as a "horrendous" tackle, and fined him two weeks wages.
"Horrendous" is actually a pretty good word to describe the state we are in. Here's Pringle's Wiki for the benefit of the apparent 80% who have never heard of him. It was actually during the Grimsby loan spell that Challinor did him. Broke his leg in two places. We registered him for the following season but he never fully recovered and retired in November 2002. Here is Challinor's Wiki. A very impressive long managerial spell at , er, AFC Fylde, cannot be ignored.
It's almost surreal that we are even talking about this no-mark pub team player/manager.
Have you read his version?
The manager did not fine him after all. In his whole career he only ever got one red - for a handball, and that was rescinded. I didn’t see the tackle, but it would seem to me that his discipline record would suggest that he was not trying to break the leg of a fellow professional. He also has a first degree as a physiotherapist. Again, does not suggest a Neanderthal.
Just adding a bit of balance. As I say, I didn’t see it.
Isn't it fine if you don't want Challinor to be our manager because of that tackle, and also fine if you don't mind him being our manager? Neither seem like outrageous points of view to me
"no-mark pub team player/manager" is a bit over the top no?
In regards to us allegedly being turned down I wonder if it's because of what we are offering and if there's an issue with wages and guarantees etc.
With all due respect if you're willing to be interviewed then you're foot is half way out the door from wherever you were/are anyway.
I am personally happy that the Stockport Manager turned us down. All the names that have been mentioned like Appleton, Cowley, Johnson have done better than him and then some.
What now concerns me is why are they saying no? We are offering it on a short term basis, are we offering a low salary, are we saying we don't have money for signings etc.
I don't see it as an insult getting rejected by a manager from a lower league, bigger clubs than us have been rejected by managers, it happens. More so want to know what is being said that is allegedly putting these candidates off
But he hasn’t turned it down has he .
I don't know, hence why I said allegedly, that's what I've read. I've now read two different managers have turned us down.
So I'm just asking if that is the case I wonder if it's because we are offering poor wages, a short term contract or lack of control over transfers etc. If of course we have been turned down
Or the Methven plan when it’s set out in detail is obvious bollocks to anyone in football with half a brain?
But what's the point? I don't know about you but I wouldn't mind being a £1 short of Methven.
Scott and Rodwell have quite a good chance of earning an honest wage for an honest day's work. A decent one at that.
Lenagan isn't on skid row and Warick is a bit of a wild card.
Considering it took them over six months to get the deal done I really can't see what the quick pay day is. TBH I can't even see what the pay day is.
It’s a free bet for them, though, using other people’s money.
In regards to us allegedly being turned down I wonder if it's because of what we are offering and if there's an issue with wages and guarantees etc.
With all due respect if you're willing to be interviewed then you're foot is half way out the door from wherever you were/are anyway.
I am personally happy that the Stockport Manager turned us down. All the names that have been mentioned like Appleton, Cowley, Johnson have done better than him and then some.
What now concerns me is why are they saying no? We are offering it on a short term basis, are we offering a low salary, are we saying we don't have money for signings etc.
I don't see it as an insult getting rejected by a manager from a lower league, bigger clubs than us have been rejected by managers, it happens. More so want to know what is being said that is allegedly putting these candidates off
But he hasn’t turned it down has he .
I don't know, hence why I said allegedly, that's what I've read. I've now read two different managers have turned us down.
So I'm just asking if that is the case I wonder if it's because we are offering poor wages, a short term contract or lack of control over transfers etc. If of course we have been turned down
Or the Methven plan when it’s set out in detail is obvious bollocks to anyone in football with half a brain?
But what's the point? I don't know about you but I wouldn't mind being a £1 short of Methven.
Scott and Rodwell have quite a good chance of earning an honest wage for an honest day's work. A decent one at that.
Lenagan isn't on skid row and Warick is a bit of a wild card.
Considering it took them over six months to get the deal done I really can't see what the quick pay day is. TBH I can't even see what the pay day is.
It’s a free bet for them, though, using other people’s money.
Have they got any money to use though ? With just 1 more day of the transfer window left they have done very little in the way oc transfer activity.
I realise you said a few days ago that maybe they told the "big 3" that money wasn't needed to be spent but clearly it does. Are the yanks that far removed from it all that they.....
1) dont realise we have no manager
2) dont realise that we are 3 or 4 good players short of a decent team, and making us half way to being top 6 needs money being spent.
With ESI we could all see it for what it was once Nimer went public......but this ???
I just don't have a clue what the intention is. And the major "players" are proper football people with reputations. Scott & Rodwell sren't mugs.
I would say 80 precent of our fans wouldn’t have a clue who Martin Pringle is?
Lovely Swedish player - lean and quick.
We has him around 2001 and he was acquired from Benfica.
Those were the days
He ran around like Bambi on Ice... Got his autograph in Bexleyheath Shopping Centre (Along with Anthony Barness) prior to us winning the League @ Blackburn.
I was going to question the Barness autograph, but he was with us until 2000
I genuinely thought he’d left us by 97
No he was at the play off final game in a grey suite, he was one of the players to jump on top of the players on top off Ilic, he then turn and cuddled Mark Bowen shouting "f**,king brilliant " while doing so
I would say 80 precent of our fans wouldn’t have a clue who Martin Pringle is?
Lovely Swedish player - lean and quick.
We has him around 2001 and he was acquired from Benfica.
Those were the days
He ran around like Bambi on Ice... Got his autograph in Bexleyheath Shopping Centre (Along with Anthony Barness) prior to us winning the League @ Blackburn.
I was going to question the Barness autograph, but he was with us until 2000
I genuinely thought he’d left us by 97
No he was at the play off final game in a grey suite, he was one of the players to jump on top of the players on top off Ilic, he then turn and cuddled Mark Bowen shouting "f**,king brilliant " while doing so
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Back then all Prem players were given a McDonald's "Gold",.i.e for free, Card.
Real special moment as our eyes met.
"If we had 11 pringles we'd have a good side"
My dad replied "If we had 11 pringles we'd have a packet of crisps"
It was a shit joke, but it bought a smile to my face. The sort of Dad comment I would now say to my own son
And...
Shit! There's more aren't there?
"Horrendous" is actually a pretty good word to describe the state we are in. Here's Pringle's Wiki for the benefit of the apparent 80% who have never heard of him. It was actually during the Grimsby loan spell that Challinor did him. Broke his leg in two places. We registered him for the following season but he never fully recovered and retired in November 2002. Here is Challinor's Wiki. A very impressive long managerial spell at , er, AFC Fylde, cannot be ignored.
It's almost surreal that we are even talking about this no-mark pub team player/manager.
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Scott and Rodwell have quite a good chance of earning an honest wage for an honest day's work. A decent one at that.
Lenagan isn't on skid row and Warick is a bit of a wild card.
Considering it took them over six months to get the deal done I really can't see what the quick pay day is. TBH I can't even see what the pay day is.
Its almost like a "no mark" that has been successful in the 4 divisions below us has no chance of stepping up a league.
I suspect he will manage in league 1, one way or another, before we get out of it.
That pub team player played in a League Cup final, have you? Has your "pub team", because if he was a pub team player you support a pub team, ever even been in a league Cup final?
Pompous.
Not to mention the double standards.
I didn’t see the tackle, but it would seem to me that his discipline record would suggest that he was not trying to break the leg of a fellow professional.
He also has a first degree as a physiotherapist. Again, does not suggest a Neanderthal.
I realise you said a few days ago that maybe they told the "big 3" that money wasn't needed to be spent but clearly it does. Are the yanks that far removed from it all that they.....
1) dont realise we have no manager
2) dont realise that we are 3 or 4 good players short of a decent team, and making us half way to being top 6 needs money being spent.
With ESI we could all see it for what it was once Nimer went public......but this ???
I just don't have a clue what the intention is. And the major "players" are proper football people with reputations. Scott & Rodwell sren't mugs.
This seems to muddy the waters a little bit more. Will he or did he fine Challinor!