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Yeah? I wish we’d had him managing our team when I was freezing my bollocks off in that Stockport away end when they schooled us in the FA Cup last season.PragueAddick said:One of the Swedish Addicks, who is in touch with Pringle nowadays reminded me that Challinor's then manager Carlton Palmer described it as a "horrendous" tackle, and fined him two weeks wages.
"Horrendous" is actually a pretty good word to describe the state we are in. Here's Pringle's Wiki for the benefit of the apparent 80% who have never heard of him. It was actually during the Grimsby loan spell that Challinor did him. Broke his leg in two places. We registered him for the following season but he never fully recovered and retired in November 2002. Here is Challinor's Wiki. A very impressive long managerial spell at , er, AFC Fylde, cannot be ignored.
It's almost surreal that we are even talking about this no-mark pub team player/manager.Bad tackle 20+ years ago or not.7 -
Cafc43v3r said:
Who has been promoted from League 1 but never been sacked, anywhere?said:
No, I'm dismissing him as he hasn't managed higher than League 2.Cafc43v3r said:Are we really dismissing a manager on the basis of a tackle he made before half our current squad were born?
Then again, I suppose he'll be in place for next season when we'll be trying to get OUT of League 2.
The one that jumped out at me when you said it as if everyone had been sacked on the way up, or sideways ! was Eddie Howe who took Bournemouth from League 2 to the Premier League despite having two seasons away at Burnley where he finished 10th and 13th (wasn't sacked) before going back to Bournemouth and carrying on their upward journey to the Premier League.
Howe left Bournemouth when he felt he took them as far as he could and needed a new challenge which he later got with the Saudi Arabian team in the North East and again has been successful.1 -
SELR_addicks said:ProperCharlton said:This is gonna be the worst potential ITK post of all time but fuck it.
Darren Moore just gave a talk at my job. Whilst saying goodbye to people Moore stated he is staying in London overnight and the host wished him luck for tomorrow.
No idea what he's doing tomorrow but hopefully he's interviewing to be our manager.
Playing football manager isn't a job y'know
It was for Thomas Driesen.4 -
Cracking goal at Derby, at this level he'd be 20 a season.Lewis Coaches said:
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I respect your posts immensely.PragueAddick said:
I remember that like it was yesterday. Challinor can absolutely fuck off. Seriously.cafc_se7 said:
We had Pringle and Mendonca too! I would switch that and say 80% will know who he is!JordanJLD said:
I named my gold fish after him at the time, so I’m clearly the 20% 😢Lewis Coaches said:
I suppose the one useful thing he could do is help Miles Leaburn to understand how to avoid being done by thugs like him.
Why don't we go the whole thug thing and get in as his assistant the Bristol Rovers bloke in who did Grant Basey, and Kevin Muscat in as Director of In-Game GBH. Yeah. People wanted us to "get nasty", so let's not mess around.
I can see where you are coming from, not sure I agree on this one mate though0 -
I have.PragueAddick said:
I am. If anybody has a problem with that, they can fuck off too. are free to disagree.Cafc43v3r said:Are we really dismissing a manager on the basis of a tackle he made before half our current squad were born?1 -
Did any of them leave a job before coming here or were they ‘in between’ jobs .Cafc43v3r said:Airman Brown said:
It’s a free bet for them, though, using other people’s money.Cafc43v3r said:
But what's the point? I don't know about you but I wouldn't mind being a £1 short of Methven.Airman Brown said:
Or the Methven plan when it’s set out in detail is obvious bollocks to anyone in football with half a brain?Braziliance said:
I don't know, hence why I said allegedly, that's what I've read. I've now read two different managers have turned us down.Bedsaddick said:
But he hasn’t turned it down has he .Braziliance said:In regards to us allegedly being turned down I wonder if it's because of what we are offering and if there's an issue with wages and guarantees etc.
With all due respect if you're willing to be interviewed then you're foot is half way out the door from wherever you were/are anyway.
I am personally happy that the Stockport Manager turned us down. All the names that have been mentioned like Appleton, Cowley, Johnson have done better than him and then some.
What now concerns me is why are they saying no? We are offering it on a short term basis, are we offering a low salary, are we saying we don't have money for signings etc.
I don't see it as an insult getting rejected by a manager from a lower league, bigger clubs than us have been rejected by managers, it happens. More so want to know what is being said that is allegedly putting these candidates off
So I'm just asking if that is the case I wonder if it's because we are offering poor wages, a short term contract or lack of control over transfers etc. If of course we have been turned down
Scott and Rodwell have quite a good chance of earning an honest wage for an honest day's work. A decent one at that.
Lenagan isn't on skid row and Warick is a bit of a wild card.
Considering it took them over six months to get the deal done I really can't see what the quick pay day is. TBH I can't even see what the pay day is.
Opportunity cost though? Are "we" paying Scott more than someone else would?
Don't they only get a serious payout if we get to the premiership? Or at least established championship. They can't make " proper" money by being shit in league 1 can they?
Pick up a salary that they weren’t getting from their sofa having sold sand to the Arabs …
best wait till the end of the window to see where we are at as a squad before judging the new clownership team1 -
Leam Richardson or Steve Evans. I know the latter is incredibly unlikeable ~ he gets players fighting for the short and playing decent football.
The rest of the list is woeful.2 -
If they don’t shift Kirk and McGrandles out today and bring three in then they haven’t met their own expectations, never mind ours.32
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I don’t think he would but his pace would be useful - played a big part in our 99/00 promotion side, largely making space for othersElfsborgAddick said:
Cracking goal at Derby, at this level he'd be 20 a season.Lewis Coaches said:0 - Sponsored links:
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What happens if no one wants to be our manager? 🙁8
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Come on, Prague. This is an intervention. We can help you get through this together.
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Not to derail the thread, but isn’t Methven’s pay day already come to fruition simply by brokering the deal. I would imagine that he might have a performance related bonus of some sort, plus his small shareholding (which given his character, he probably didn’t pay for and was given). Now as Oohaah says, the rest of them didn’t have a job. Holden didn’t have a job and his managerial career was going nowhere As per Airman’s post, this is all somebody else’s money, and given rumours of sponsors paying for players, not much of it. Certainly not what’s needed to be a success on the pitch. Basically, CM has bullshitted and bluffed his way into this, thought he had a bit more wriggle room in the first instance to make it look like it was working, but the wheels have come off in a big crash in the first month behind the wheel.11
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Just as Methven did at Sunderland.Airman Brown said:
It’s a free bet for them, though, using other people’s money.Cafc43v3r said:
But what's the point? I don't know about you but I wouldn't mind being a £1 short of Methven.Airman Brown said:
Or the Methven plan when it’s set out in detail is obvious bollocks to anyone in football with half a brain?Braziliance said:
I don't know, hence why I said allegedly, that's what I've read. I've now read two different managers have turned us down.Bedsaddick said:
But he hasn’t turned it down has he .Braziliance said:In regards to us allegedly being turned down I wonder if it's because of what we are offering and if there's an issue with wages and guarantees etc.
With all due respect if you're willing to be interviewed then you're foot is half way out the door from wherever you were/are anyway.
I am personally happy that the Stockport Manager turned us down. All the names that have been mentioned like Appleton, Cowley, Johnson have done better than him and then some.
What now concerns me is why are they saying no? We are offering it on a short term basis, are we offering a low salary, are we saying we don't have money for signings etc.
I don't see it as an insult getting rejected by a manager from a lower league, bigger clubs than us have been rejected by managers, it happens. More so want to know what is being said that is allegedly putting these candidates off
So I'm just asking if that is the case I wonder if it's because we are offering poor wages, a short term contract or lack of control over transfers etc. If of course we have been turned down
Scott and Rodwell have quite a good chance of earning an honest wage for an honest day's work. A decent one at that.
Lenagan isn't on skid row and Warick is a bit of a wild card.
Considering it took them over six months to get the deal done I really can't see what the quick pay day is. TBH I can't even see what the pay day is.3 -
As a birthday treat i was given a day at the training ground. Pringle turned up with cut down denims that he did himself with scissors, had odd socks and odd shoes on. Curbishley and Day just took the piss out of him.ForeverAddickted said:
He ran around like Bambi on Ice... Got his autograph in Bexleyheath Shopping Centre (Along with Anthony Barness) prior to us winning the League @ Blackburn.BigDiddy said:
Lovely Swedish player - lean and quick.Lewis Coaches said:
We has him around 2001 and he was acquired from Benfica.
Those were the days1 -
What about a player manager?mendonca said:Wonder if we will sign a player or manager first. Exciting times!0 -
Pringle was a weird looking bloke.
I met him once and I swear he is Orange4 -
You mean Paprika surelyblackpool72 said:Pringle was a weird looking bloke.
I met him once and I swear he is Orange
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Not sure how true, but someone posted on here a couple of days ago that McGrandles is now injured and therefore it's unlikely we'd be able to move him on.Airman Brown said:If they don’t shift Kirk and McGrandles out today and bring three in then they haven’t met their own expectations, never mind ours.2 - Sponsored links:
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If he played whilst injured, would we notice?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Not sure how true, but someone posted on here a couple of days ago that McGrandles is now injured and therefore it's unlikely we'd be able to move him on.Airman Brown said:If they don’t shift Kirk and McGrandles out today and bring three in then they haven’t met their own expectations, never mind ours.8 -
...and this is coming live from Blackpool!?blackpool72 said:Pringle was a weird looking bloke.
I met him once and I swear he is Orange0 -
Thats fine kick the other waste of space out Jaiyesimi then along with Kirk at least none should be here this time tomorrow !!!Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Not sure how true, but someone posted on here a couple of days ago that McGrandles is now injured and therefore it's unlikely we'd be able to move him on.Airman Brown said:If they don’t shift Kirk and McGrandles out today and bring three in then they haven’t met their own expectations, never mind ours.2 -
Hearing we've got 3 managers and 1 player incoming49
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That ain't fair. We buy injured players, so should everyone elseChris_from_Sidcup said:
Not sure how true, but someone posted on here a couple of days ago that McGrandles is now injured and therefore it's unlikely we'd be able to move him on.Airman Brown said:If they don’t shift Kirk and McGrandles out today and bring three in then they haven’t met their own expectations, never mind ours.9 -
Admire the aspiration but probably a forlorn hope.Redrobo said:
Have you read his version?PragueAddick said:One of the Swedish Addicks, who is in touch with Pringle nowadays reminded me that Challinor's then manager Carlton Palmer described it as a "horrendous" tackle, and fined him two weeks wages.
"Horrendous" is actually a pretty good word to describe the state we are in. Here's Pringle's Wiki for the benefit of the apparent 80% who have never heard of him. It was actually during the Grimsby loan spell that Challinor did him. Broke his leg in two places. We registered him for the following season but he never fully recovered and retired in November 2002. Here is Challinor's Wiki. A very impressive long managerial spell at , er, AFC Fylde, cannot be ignored.
It's almost surreal that we are even talking about this no-mark pub team player/manager.The manager did not fine him after all. In his whole career he only ever got one red - for a handball, and that was rescinded.
I didn’t see the tackle, but it would seem to me that his discipline record would suggest that he was not trying to break the leg of a fellow professional.
He also has a first degree as a physiotherapist. Again, does not suggest a Neanderthal.Just adding a bit of balance. As I say, I didn’t see it.
As happens when emotions understandably run high, the world gets viewed as comprising good guys and bad guys, with nowt in between. Those associated with the bad guys must also be c**ts or clowns or both and threads can rapidly become an echo chamber.
It's not a surprise, given the cast of money launderers, madmen, asset-strippers and narcissists that have owned CAFC for the last 10+ years, but there seems to me to be a lot of recency bias on show, that seemingly won't allow for any possibility (I'm just saying "possibility") that the largest shareholders (at least those with >5%!) might have ideas other than as suggested by the Texas Prospectus (aimed at small-ticket investors who, obviously, would not be prepared or could be relied upon to contribute more, as needed), that they and the management team (whatever we think of them personally) just might not be total idiots or cheapskates looking for a quick flip and that, without being dumb enough to throw stupid money at the club, they just might have the same goal on the pitch as us.
Because the investment, by some very smart people, who make a lot of private equity investments of this sort, typically seeking outsized returns (not 20-40% but multiples of their investment) and are accustomed to making measured, follow-on investments in that pursuit, makes absolutely no sense to me unless CAFC achieves at least 1 promotion.Everyone makes mistakes and DH was patently one but I give them credit (unlike TS with both Adkins and Garner) for admitting it and pulling the plug early enough to potentially rescue the season.
Whomever they appoint from the range of options open to us, or if they decide to give Jason Pearce a longer run, I will back the new manager, regardless of their “history” because I simply don’t believe this “set up to fail” theory.
That's my pennyworth - "intelligent" or otherwise.4 -
Not set up to fail, but will fail because they can’t set up for success.0
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Just been listening back to Charlton Live. Louis' view is that Powell wouldn't touch it having looked at the squad and decided not good enough.
(Apologies if that's already been discussed at length on here - I've had to skim through a lot of this thread.)4 -
Well that's not a very good attitude, if correct, is it?Weegie Addick said:Just been listening back to Charlton Live. Louis' view is that Powell wouldn't touch it having looked at the squad and decided not good enough.2 -
Surely even Billy Smart doesn't have this much trouble recruiting3
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