Jackson: Where does he go from here? (P6. AFC Wimbledon)

MuttleyCAFC said:

I was strongly against sacking JJ. Some weren't. He was sacked prematurely and when JJ was struggling at Wimbledon those people came on here stating it justified his sacking which irritated me. I am delighted for him that he has turned it round and you don't get those posts anymore for some reason.

Like Powell, JJ is a Charlton manager. Powell would have been sacked after his first half season if he was treated in the same way as JJ. And they would have been fans who were all for it at that time! When you plant the seeds you do need to give them time to grow. I think JJ wanted to play a certain way and Sandgaard wanted to play a different way. Sandgaard owned the club but knew nothing about football. His job was not to decide how we play but get and support the right manager. 

Powell, I'm guessing, was given a free hit but told Jenkinson was sold and he was being given the money.  The rest is history.

MuttleyCAFC said:

I was strongly against sacking JJ. Some weren't. He was sacked prematurely and when JJ was struggling at Wimbledon those people came on here stating it justified his sacking which irritated me. I am delighted for him that he has turned it round and you don't get those posts anymore for some reason.

Like Powell, JJ is a Charlton manager. Powell would have been sacked after his first half season if he was treated in the same way as JJ. And they would have been fans who were all for it at that time! When you plant the seeds you do need to give them time to grow. I think JJ wanted to play a certain way and Sandgaard wanted to play a different way. Sandgaard owned the club but knew nothing about football. His job was not to decide how we play but get and support the right manager. 

Nothing against JJ at all, a Charlton legend, but some of the performances under him were the worst we'd seen in recent years. 

Certainly nothing that he has gone on to do since suggests that we would be much better off if he'd stayed. 

We may not have made a bit of a bodge of replacing him but I don't think that his departure was in and of itself a mistake, as much of a club legend as he is and was as a player.

ElfsborgAddick said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

I was strongly against sacking JJ. Some weren't. He was sacked prematurely and when JJ was struggling at Wimbledon those people came on here stating it justified his sacking which irritated me. I am delighted for him that he has turned it round and you don't get those posts anymore for some reason.

Like Powell, JJ is a Charlton manager. Powell would have been sacked after his first half season if he was treated in the same way as JJ. And they would have been fans who were all for it at that time! When you plant the seeds you do need to give them time to grow. I think JJ wanted to play a certain way and Sandgaard wanted to play a different way. Sandgaard owned the club but knew nothing about football. His job was not to decide how we play but get and support the right manager. 

Powell, I'm guessing, was given a free hit but told Jenkinson was sold and he was being given the money.  The rest is history.

Jimenez had to be talked out of sacking Powell in the summer of 2011.

Croydon said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

I was strongly against sacking JJ. Some weren't. He was sacked prematurely and when JJ was struggling at Wimbledon those people came on here stating it justified his sacking which irritated me. I am delighted for him that he has turned it round and you don't get those posts anymore for some reason.

Like Powell, JJ is a Charlton manager. Powell would have been sacked after his first half season if he was treated in the same way as JJ. And they would have been fans who were all for it at that time! When you plant the seeds you do need to give them time to grow. I think JJ wanted to play a certain way and Sandgaard wanted to play a different way. Sandgaard owned the club but knew nothing about football. His job was not to decide how we play but get and support the right manager. 

Nothing against JJ at all, a Charlton legend, but some of the performances under him were the worst we'd seen in recent years. 

Oxford at home and Ipswich away stand out as poor, but then Cheltenham the 1st half at home under Adkins early in the season when we were 2 down and should've been 4-0 down but Macgillivray had a decent half to keep the score down. Ended up 1-2 as they retreated.

The trouble with Charlton is we could play really poor with JJ's 3-5-2, Adkins 4-3-3 and  Robinson's 4-2-3-1 
Also played poor under Garner's attempted high press where we overpassed before losing possession.
Holden's tactics were strange at Oxford when he appeared to be discombobulated.

Anyone see a link with poor performances under different managers and different Formations who ever has tried in the last 4 seasons.

We all knew JJ was a good number 2 on the staff.  He was just placed into the lead role at Charlton too early in his managerial career.  That was clear from his lack of flexibility in tactics and playing people out of position to fit his system.  Hopefully he has learned from that and can work his way up the ladder.  Eventually he will hit his ceiling as a manager.  It is too early to tell what that is on what effectively is only 2 plus years in the role with some ups and some downs

What odds on him being back at the Valley by Christmas?

grumpyaddick said:

What odds on him being back at the Valley by Christmas?

Hopefully not

I loved Jacko as a player but our fanbase have gone overboard with him now.

He got a fairly decent squad to an average position, struggled last season at AFC and is currently sitting 11th in League 2

Lets put it another way, if we had hired a manager who finished 21st in League 2 last season and was currently 11th there would be uproar, but because its Jackson there are fans who would take him back in a heartbeat.

IMHO Jackson makes a great number 2, he can motivate players and shows passion, but doesn't have what it takes tactically to be a good manager.

He is still young and can improve that and I hope he does and if he does would love to see him come back one day, but right now he is not a good manager and if he wasn't a Charlton Legend our fan's wouldn't go on about him as much as they do

Leuth said:

Another two-goal lead chucked, another 100th-minute equaliser conceded. Classic Jackson

NabySarr said:

Leuth said:

Another two-goal lead chucked, another 100th-minute equaliser conceded. Classic Jackson

He has only gone and taken Charltons losing mentality with him, poor sods. 

That's a ridiculous stat, absolutely ridiculous. Definitely a psychological thing at that point 

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ElfsborgAddick said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

I was strongly against sacking JJ. Some weren't. He was sacked prematurely and when JJ was struggling at Wimbledon those people came on here stating it justified his sacking which irritated me. I am delighted for him that he has turned it round and you don't get those posts anymore for some reason.

Like Powell, JJ is a Charlton manager. Powell would have been sacked after his first half season if he was treated in the same way as JJ. And they would have been fans who were all for it at that time! When you plant the seeds you do need to give them time to grow. I think JJ wanted to play a certain way and Sandgaard wanted to play a different way. Sandgaard owned the club but knew nothing about football. His job was not to decide how we play but get and support the right manager. 

Powell, I'm guessing, was given a free hit but told Jenkinson was sold and he was being given the money.  The rest is history.

Jimenez had to be talked out of sacking Powell in the summer of 2011.

Can you say who talked Jimenez out of Sacking Powell 🤔

Wasn’t talked out of it they could not afford to do it so left it for RD 

He quite cleary stated this was the summer of 2011, the same summer when we bought in a whole host of players and did not sell the club to RD until January 2014.

So money or lack of was not the issue

Are you saying that on this occasion Ronnie might not be 100% correct?  Colour me shocked.

Callumcafc said:

Wimbledon won 3-1 away at Walsall today.

So??