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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)
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He's off to Ujpest to play under Nobby Vinegar
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Can there be a separate Dobbo thread started so we can stick to transfer rumours on this one please?15
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What would he get out of moving to Hungary? Unless we are offering him peanuts I just don't get that move. Club captain at a team close to home with the potential to go up next season. Doesn't make sense to me3
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Might be jumping to conclusion but would expect Ferencevaros to be one of the few clubs willing to pay wages high enough for Dobson. I went there for a game a couple of years ago and the entire crowd were doing Nazi salutes ffs, I hope he doesn't go.2
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New born baby and settled, no way is he moving to eastern Europe.
Could be agent talk to push Charlton into another offer.
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As Curbs said, he likes them Hungary.shirty5 said:12 -
Think he’d benefit from playing in midfield with Bakinson, Coventry, Fiorelli and/or Camara. Rotating those five would be ideal - although of course this is on the assumption that the new signings turn out to be what we hoped for.Todds_right_hook said:
I agree. But he is out of form and it's good that he now has competition.TEL said:Absurd these negative comments about Dobson. How fickle this fan base is these days.First name on the team sheet as far as I'm concerned.Hope he stays for years to come.
my only gripe is that he sits so deep. When we play it out from the back, he is generally level or two yards in front of the defenders. Coventry looked more advanced.Is dropping back so deep his natural game or is he being told to do it?No way will he go to Eastern Europe.1 -
Smells of agent talk to me, I can't see Dobbo taking his Mrs and newborn to Hungary, especially as realistically the difference in wages cant be huge.4
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Sure, follow the steps belowMrBurns said:Can someone point me in the direction of the Transfer Rumours thread please
1. Open google
2. type "into the valley"
3. Select transfer rumour thread
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Callumcafc said:
I think a fairer comparison would be Jose Semedo. Fan favourite, played the same position, crunched some tackles and won player of the year.Braziliance said:
I just think sometimes on here we can jump the gun a tad.JamesSeed said:
I don’t think any player has a right to be picked ahead of better players. He’s been our lynchpin for ages, and earlier in the season he was unbelievable, but if he ends up on the bench because we have better, then that can only benefit the club.Braziliance said:I can't believe people are seriously suggesting Dobson gets dropped for a few players that have a combined 100 minutes or so for Charlton.
A better manager would make sure he's in the team, he's undoubtedly one of our better players and should be part of our rebuild.
If you're of the view he's leaving so you'd want to see what else we have to offer then fair enough, but if he stays put (I really, really hope so) he is without a doubt one of the first names on the sheet.
I think back to the Michael Morrison situation, he was quickly moved from the team by Bikey and Ben Haim, Morrison was a mainstay of our team. A lot of people were saying that we had moved on from Morrison etc.
Fast forward, both Bikey and Ben Haim aren't at the club, we get relegated, Morrison goes on to be a mainstay at Reading and Birmingham in the championship as captain for both?
It would be insane to suggest 3 players who we have barely seen feature could dislodge our captain and player of the season imho. He's guilty of being surrounded by pants players, if he had more quality around him I would be willing to bet you wouldn't see his erratic challenges as much.
Him and Coventry (I think) would be two great players for a promotion chasing side in this league. We just need better players around them now
He left on a free, some thought it was a disaster at the time because we didn’t pay him what he wanted. We moved on to bigger and better things, and he got a move to Sheffield where things also worked out nicely for him.
It’s all about where you’d peg him in the “8-8-8” make up of a promotion winning side. I know a lot here would put him in the elite 8 but I wouldn’t because I don’t see him fitting the two key requirements of that group:
- I don’t think George Dobson walks into Bolton, Peterborough, Portsmouth or Oxford’s midfield
- I don’t think George Dobson is capable of being a dependable (or better) Championship calibre midfielder
Happy for others to disagree but that’s where I’d place him. And therefore you can’t go breaking the wage structure you’re trying to impose because you think he’s been really good and he deserves it - that’s how you end up with situations like Aneke’s deal hanging around our necks.
Maybe but same could be said about JCH and no way we were paying money for him to be in the middle group. Yet can't get in Peterboroughs first team, don't think he would Bolton's and has never proved it in the Champ despite playing there before.0 -
Isn't he become a dad last year. Would Mrs D want to move with a new born to Hungry!Bexleyheath_Addick said:What would he get out of moving to Hungary? Unless we are offering him peanuts I just don't get that move. Club captain at a team close to home with the potential to go up next season. Doesn't make sense to me
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For me, Dobson is hugely important to the team and the fanbase. He's a proper Charlton player - not loads of flair just a hard-working, likeable and good honest professional. He's carved out a niche in our midfield by virtue of being so consistent.
That's not to say he hasn't improved as a player too. He WAS just a good tackler but his passing and moving have improved vastly and his driven/drilled passes are impressive.
I think he deserves to play in a side where he is supported in the middle as opposed to being the entire midfield all by himself - then see if we can get more from him
I'll admit - Coventry looked to be a good acquisition as did Fiorini. Bakinson also impressed. There is a growing trend in football lately to play a "Box" midfield - that's 4 central midfielders with 2 offensive and 2 defensive-minded. That could work if the wing backs are able to cover the wide areas and the 2 defensive midfielders know when to drop in to the back line.
I think Dobbo is happy here and rumours are he's sacked his agent as he kept trying to get him to move - presumably for some extra money. I'd like to think Dobbo will sign on and stick around. Whilst he may not be the first name on the team sheet going forward - he's a great option to have there.69 -
As per Appleton's quotes (https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/id-like-one-more-michael-appleton-on-if-charlton-can-dip-into-transfer-market-following-michael-hector-injury/) it looks like one or more forwards are the priority and we're open to another CB but not a current priority.Redmidland said:Can there be a separate Dobbo thread started so we can stick to transfer rumours on this one please?
I would assume/hope that full backs and a keeper are probably going to be addressed in summer instead.0 -
I wouldn't really think a keeper is anywhere near priority, AMB has shown real quality of late.thenewbie said:
As per Appleton's quotes (https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/id-like-one-more-michael-appleton-on-if-charlton-can-dip-into-transfer-market-following-michael-hector-injury/) it looks like one or more forwards are the priority and we're open to another CB but not a current priority.Redmidland said:Can there be a separate Dobbo thread started so we can stick to transfer rumours on this one please?
I would assume/hope that full backs and a keeper are probably going to be addressed in summer instead.
A right wing back or someone similar to sess who could play both right and left should definitely be looked into though.1 -
I wonder if anything changes if they unload a couple of players soon. If Fraser was to depart, some cash would be freed up, you’d assume, depending on the deal?thenewbie said:
As per Appleton's quotes (https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/id-like-one-more-michael-appleton-on-if-charlton-can-dip-into-transfer-market-following-michael-hector-injury/) it looks like one or more forwards are the priority and we're open to another CB but not a current priority.Redmidland said:Can there be a separate Dobbo thread started so we can stick to transfer rumours on this one please?
I would assume/hope that full backs and a keeper are probably going to be addressed in summer instead.0 -
agreedSwisdom said:For me, Dobson is hugely important to the team and the fanbase. He's a proper Charlton player - not loads of flair just a hard-working, likeable and good honest professional. He's carved out a niche in our midfield by virtue of being so consistent.
That's not to say he hasn't improved as a player too. He WAS just a good tackler but his passing and moving have improved vastly and his driven/drilled passes are impressive.
I think he deserves to play in a side where he is supported in the middle as opposed to being the entire midfield all by himself - then see if we can get more from him
I'll admit - Coventry looked to be a good acquisition as did Fiorini. Bakinson also impressed. There is a growing trend in football lately to play a "Box" midfield - that's 4 central midfielders with 2 offensive and 2 defensive-minded. That could work if the wing backs are able to cover the wide areas and the 2 defensive midfielders know when to drop in to the back line.
I think Dobbo is happy here and rumours are he's sacked his agent as he kept trying to get him to move - presumably for some extra money. I'd like to think Dobbo will sign on and stick around. Whilst he may not be the first name on the team sheet going forward - he's a great option to have there.3 -
We did try that box midfield but it didn’t really work on Saturday. I think in future, we would need May as one of the 10s and a striker ahead of himSwisdom said:For me, Dobson is hugely important to the team and the fanbase. He's a proper Charlton player - not loads of flair just a hard-working, likeable and good honest professional. He's carved out a niche in our midfield by virtue of being so consistent.
That's not to say he hasn't improved as a player too. He WAS just a good tackler but his passing and moving have improved vastly and his driven/drilled passes are impressive.
I think he deserves to play in a side where he is supported in the middle as opposed to being the entire midfield all by himself - then see if we can get more from him
I'll admit - Coventry looked to be a good acquisition as did Fiorini. Bakinson also impressed. There is a growing trend in football lately to play a "Box" midfield - that's 4 central midfielders with 2 offensive and 2 defensive-minded. That could work if the wing backs are able to cover the wide areas and the 2 defensive midfielders know when to drop in to the back line.
I think Dobbo is happy here and rumours are he's sacked his agent as he kept trying to get him to move - presumably for some extra money. I'd like to think Dobbo will sign on and stick around. Whilst he may not be the first name on the team sheet going forward - he's a great option to have there.2 -
So Dobbo. Any opinions on if he stays or goes?16
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All fair points, but somewhat irrelevant if doesn’t want to stay.Braziliance said:
I just think sometimes on here we can jump the gun a tad.JamesSeed said:
I don’t think any player has a right to be picked ahead of better players. He’s been our lynchpin for ages, and earlier in the season he was unbelievable, but if he ends up on the bench because we have better, then that can only benefit the club.Braziliance said:I can't believe people are seriously suggesting Dobson gets dropped for a few players that have a combined 100 minutes or so for Charlton.
A better manager would make sure he's in the team, he's undoubtedly one of our better players and should be part of our rebuild.
If you're of the view he's leaving so you'd want to see what else we have to offer then fair enough, but if he stays put (I really, really hope so) he is without a doubt one of the first names on the sheet.
I think back to the Michael Morrison situation, he was quickly moved from the team by Bikey and Ben Haim, Morrison was a mainstay of our team. A lot of people were saying that we had moved on from Morrison etc.
Fast forward, both Bikey and Ben Haim aren't at the club, we get relegated, Morrison goes on to be a mainstay at Reading and Birmingham in the championship as captain for both?
It would be insane to suggest 3 players who we have barely seen feature could dislodge our captain and player of the season imho. He's guilty of being surrounded by pants players, if he had more quality around him I would be willing to bet you wouldn't see his erratic challenges as much.
Him and Coventry (I think) would be two great players for a promotion chasing side in this league. We just need better players around them now1 -
Morrison wasn't entirely comparable, as for a start he was pushed out AFTER signing a contract, a ludicrous decision.Braziliance said:
I just think sometimes on here we can jump the gun a tad.JamesSeed said:
I don’t think any player has a right to be picked ahead of better players. He’s been our lynchpin for ages, and earlier in the season he was unbelievable, but if he ends up on the bench because we have better, then that can only benefit the club.Braziliance said:I can't believe people are seriously suggesting Dobson gets dropped for a few players that have a combined 100 minutes or so for Charlton.
A better manager would make sure he's in the team, he's undoubtedly one of our better players and should be part of our rebuild.
If you're of the view he's leaving so you'd want to see what else we have to offer then fair enough, but if he stays put (I really, really hope so) he is without a doubt one of the first names on the sheet.
I think back to the Michael Morrison situation, he was quickly moved from the team by Bikey and Ben Haim, Morrison was a mainstay of our team. A lot of people were saying that we had moved on from Morrison etc.
Fast forward, both Bikey and Ben Haim aren't at the club, we get relegated, Morrison goes on to be a mainstay at Reading and Birmingham in the championship as captain for both?
It would be insane to suggest 3 players who we have barely seen feature could dislodge our captain and player of the season imho. He's guilty of being surrounded by pants players, if he had more quality around him I would be willing to bet you wouldn't see his erratic challenges as much.
Him and Coventry (I think) would be two great players for a promotion chasing side in this league. We just need better players around them now
If Dobson was to sign his contract offer, then I'm sure he'd still get plenty of game time, but going forward I would question whether he would be the guaranteed pick he has been. We've not signed Coventry to sit on the bench, and then it's a question of the balance in midfield. Are we playing 3 midfielders or 2 plus a more attacking player? Bakinson definitely added something on Saturday, while a fit Camara (if that ever happens) would surely be really strong competition for Dobson as well.
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was told by someone I trust yesterday that Dobson does not want to leave the club and is very happy here. Seems we've made him what we think is a good/fair offer....but he clearly thinks he's worth a bit more.
Whether we can find common ground is the question.10 -
We currently have 6 loan players, including the mysterious Abankwah, making me wonder if there was no exit clause on either side.
The other 4 are FOUR midfielders and 1 attacking midfielder, which feels a really unbalanced use of the loan market.0 -
I can quite believe Dobbo doesnt want to leave us, why would he ? he is one of those players that just "gets" the club. He is my 1st name on the team sheet every week as you just know what he is going to provide. How on earth he is getting the negative comments on here is a joke. If he does extend his contract it will be one of our better signing this window imo11
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Sounds promising and hopefully sounds like a deal can be struck it would be one less player to replace for a rebuild, Fiorini and Bakinson are only on loan so no reason any recent signing pushes Dobson out the door.Elthamaddick said:was told by someone I trust yesterday that Dobson does not want to leave the club and is very happy here. Seems we've made him what we think is a good/fair offer....but he clearly thinks he's worth a bit more.
Whether we can find common ground is the question.
Could come down to whether Appleton still feels Dobson is the guaranteed starter he has been which might define how much the club are offering and how much Dobson is wanting.0 -
That’s one way of getting forgottenshirty5 said:0 -
Abankwah leftkillerandflash said:We currently have 6 loan players, including the mysterious Abankwah, making me wonder if there was no exit clause on either side.
The other 4 are FOUR midfielders and 1 attacking midfielder, which feels a really unbalanced use of the loan market.0
