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Replace Red Red Robin??
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Keep it, we've managed to avoid the abomination that is goal music for which I am thankful. Red Red Robin is ours, its unique and rightly should remain never to be tampered with or otherwise dephiled. So many clubs have had to fabricate something similar and its just that, fabricated.
I'm glad Everton have kept Z Cars as well.
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Ah maybeLordflashheart said:
I thought the team we have played the most is Pompeyse9addick said:
Aren’t they the team we’ve played against the most times? The eternal derby really.Lordflashheart said:
Wow - great knowledge, albeit not a derby match thoughshirty5 said:
Cottee scored twice against us in our first season in the premier league for Leicester at the Valley in the League CupLordflashheart said:
Another poster said it was Tony Gale, who never played in Prem vs Charlton - in any event, same applies to Cottee, he never played against us in the PremGribbo said:On Saturday Curbs had a story about a Tony Cottee anecdote (or did Curbs have an anecdote about a Tony Cotte story?), that when he used to play at the Valley he would get nervous with it being a derby game and the Valley being quite intimidating, then the Red Red Robin would come on and all his angst would immediately disappear.
I'm still for keeping it though
Unless of course Curbs is saying Prem, when he actually means old Div 1, however even then, no Div 1 games were played at The Valley in the 80’s…..
Just under 20,000 in attendance that night0 -
yes .. it's a symbol/symptom of an old fashioned backward looking club just wallowing in nostalgia, I mean referring to a large number of the aging fanbase, not necessarily the owners who I am sure are a dynamic bunch of thrusting, looking far into the future investors0
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Let me entertain you, Charlton haven’t done that for years!I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:Never change this. Change the music before it. Please do not play Nathan Jones.
Bring back "Let me Entertain you" etc. Was always good for building atmosphere.0 -
And Congratulations by Cliff RichardMendonca In Asdas said:
Let me entertain you, Charlton haven’t done that for years!I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:Never change this. Change the music before it. Please do not play Nathan Jones.
Bring back "Let me Entertain you" etc. Was always good for building atmosphere.1 -
Correct…..followed by MiddlesboroughLordflashheart said:
I thought the team we have played the most is Pompeyse9addick said:
Aren’t they the team we’ve played against the most times? The eternal derby really.Lordflashheart said:
Wow - great knowledge, albeit not a derby match thoughshirty5 said:
Cottee scored twice against us in our first season in the premier league for Leicester at the Valley in the League CupLordflashheart said:
Another poster said it was Tony Gale, who never played in Prem vs Charlton - in any event, same applies to Cottee, he never played against us in the PremGribbo said:On Saturday Curbs had a story about a Tony Cottee anecdote (or did Curbs have an anecdote about a Tony Cotte story?), that when he used to play at the Valley he would get nervous with it being a derby game and the Valley being quite intimidating, then the Red Red Robin would come on and all his angst would immediately disappear.
I'm still for keeping it though
Unless of course Curbs is saying Prem, when he actually means old Div 1, however even then, no Div 1 games were played at The Valley in the 80’s…..
Just under 20,000 in attendance that night0 -
Was it ever Leicester or have I just totally made that up?SoundAsa£ said:
Correct…..followed by MiddlesboroughLordflashheart said:
I thought the team we have played the most is Pompeyse9addick said:
Aren’t they the team we’ve played against the most times? The eternal derby really.Lordflashheart said:
Wow - great knowledge, albeit not a derby match thoughshirty5 said:
Cottee scored twice against us in our first season in the premier league for Leicester at the Valley in the League CupLordflashheart said:
Another poster said it was Tony Gale, who never played in Prem vs Charlton - in any event, same applies to Cottee, he never played against us in the PremGribbo said:On Saturday Curbs had a story about a Tony Cottee anecdote (or did Curbs have an anecdote about a Tony Cotte story?), that when he used to play at the Valley he would get nervous with it being a derby game and the Valley being quite intimidating, then the Red Red Robin would come on and all his angst would immediately disappear.
I'm still for keeping it though
Unless of course Curbs is saying Prem, when he actually means old Div 1, however even then, no Div 1 games were played at The Valley in the 80’s…..
Just under 20,000 in attendance that night0 -
I’ve never heard that it’s Leicester…..so I guess you made it up. 🫢se9addick said:
Was it ever Leicester or have I just totally made that up?SoundAsa£ said:
Correct…..followed by MiddlesboroughLordflashheart said:
I thought the team we have played the most is Pompeyse9addick said:
Aren’t they the team we’ve played against the most times? The eternal derby really.Lordflashheart said:
Wow - great knowledge, albeit not a derby match thoughshirty5 said:
Cottee scored twice against us in our first season in the premier league for Leicester at the Valley in the League CupLordflashheart said:
Another poster said it was Tony Gale, who never played in Prem vs Charlton - in any event, same applies to Cottee, he never played against us in the PremGribbo said:On Saturday Curbs had a story about a Tony Cottee anecdote (or did Curbs have an anecdote about a Tony Cotte story?), that when he used to play at the Valley he would get nervous with it being a derby game and the Valley being quite intimidating, then the Red Red Robin would come on and all his angst would immediately disappear.
I'm still for keeping it though
Unless of course Curbs is saying Prem, when he actually means old Div 1, however even then, no Div 1 games were played at The Valley in the 80’s…..
Just under 20,000 in attendance that night0 -
Keep for sure.0
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Leicester won't have been for a long time, if ever. Only played them 53 times in total. Top 10 for reference:
1. Portsmouth 116
2. Middlesbrough 106
3. Bolton 95
4. Derby 92
5. Huddersfield 90
6. Wolves 85
7. Sunderland 83
7. Norwich 83
9. Blackburn 81
10. Cardiff 774 -
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Yesterday was our 108th league meeting with Pompey. They are the team we've met most.League only1 Pompey 1082 Middlesbrough 963 Bolton 904 Derby 87 (88 on Tuesday)5 Huddersfield 866 Sunderland 787 Norwich 75= 8 Millwall & Wolves 7410 Plymouth 74
We've played also Boro 10 times in cups but haven't had time to work out the other opponents cup games. We played Pompey in the Anglo Italian cup and Derby in the FA Cup Final.
Only Millwall are a London side.1 -
My figures are total league and cup, since 1920/21
Total teams played since then, including U21/Reserve teams in the Southern League and EFL Trophy is 146 for anyone interested.2 -
https://www.11v11.com/teams/charlton-athletic/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Leicester%20City/
This site is good for such things, you have to deduct the cup games to get the league totals, but useful none the less.
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So, to be clear, you’re all certain Leicester aren’t the team we’ve played most?4
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Z cars theme is an instrumental version of The Ballad of Johnny Todd.Algarveaddick said:Everton run out to the theme from bloody Z Cars, and you never see them struggl... oh, er hang on...
It’s an old song sung by sailors popular in and around Liverpool docks and was sung in schools in Liverpool.
The story is about a sailor, Johnny Todd who went to sea leaving the love of his life at home. When he returned he found out she had fell for another man while he was at sea, hence the term ‘on your todd’
At least that is what I was told by a scouser I know who claimed they sung it at school in the late 60s.2 -
I'm amazed by the Millwall stat as we only played them a couple of times in the JS era. Both wins I think.Henry Irving said:Yesterday was our 108th league meeting with Pompey. They are the team we've met most.League only1 Pompey 1082 Middlesbrough 963 Bolton 904 Derby 87 (88 on Tuesday)5 Huddersfield 866 Sunderland 787 Norwich 75= 8 Millwall & Wolves 7410 Plymouth 74
We've played also Boro 10 times in cups but haven't had time to work out the other opponents cup games. We played Pompey in the Anglo Italian cup and Derby in the FA Cup Final.
Only Millwall are a London side.1 -
Lincsaddick said:yes .. it's a symbol/symptom of an old fashioned backward looking club just wallowing in nostalgia, I mean referring to a large number of the aging fanbase, not necessarily the owners who I am sure are a dynamic bunch of thrusting, looking far into the future investors
Sarcasm is, indeed, the highest form of wit
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ExcellentLordflashheart said:
Is Paul Tracey a Charlton fan or did @SE7toSG3 write that?
Still needed a 78RPM of the original for the museum.
We have vinyl 45s including the one @BDL played on 5/12/92 and a gold disc version.2 -
Excellent stuff @DyerConsequencesDyerConsequences said:Leicester won't have been for a long time, if ever. Only played them 53 times in total. Top 10 for reference:
1. Portsmouth 116
2. Middlesbrough 106
3. Bolton 95
4. Derby 92
5. Huddersfield 90
6. Wolves 85
7. Sunderland 83
7. Norwich 83
9. Blackburn 81
10. Cardiff 77
Does the Derby total include tomorrow's game?
Assume you're only counting league, FA Cup, League Cup, Anglo Italian and play-offs?
PS can I nick this for the museum's twitter?0 -
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paulbaconsarnie said:
Z cars theme is an instrumental version of The Ballad of Johnny Todd.Algarveaddick said:Everton run out to the theme from bloody Z Cars, and you never see them struggl... oh, er hang on...
It’s an old song sung by sailors popular in and around Liverpool docks and was sung in schools in Liverpool.
The story is about a sailor, Johnny Todd who went to sea leaving the love of his life at home. When he returned he found out she had fell for another man while he was at sea, hence the term ‘on your todd’
At least that is what I was told by a scouser I know who claimed they sung it at school in the late 60s.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1m_ysiV4uVY
In the 60s school kids sang folk songs and religious songs in school, and maybe church, so I'm told 😉
Hence why lots of 70s football chants were based on hymns and folk/popular songs eg bread of heaven/we can see you sneaking out.
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I assume it was written by the Fusiler Museum - reckon if CAFC Museum get in touch with them, they can give additional info about Billy CottonHenry Irving said:
ExcellentLordflashheart said:
Is Paul Tracey a Charlton fan or did @SE7toSG3 write that?
Still needed a 78RPM of the original for the museum.
We have vinyl 45s including the one @BDL played on 5/12/92 and a gold disc version.
I think you should also ‘tap up’ Michael Grade, given it was through his family that Mr Grade became an Addick
When I approached him at h/t last season he was superb to chat to - loved the fact I asked - very open about his start as an Addick
Get it written down, before it’s too late …..
RRR is a huge part of our history
Mr Grade is also part of our history - I remember before the Pompey back to The Valley game, he wrote a brilliant newspaper article (in the Guardian ? - not sure) where he told people about a club in SE London, which he loves, and the upcoming homecoming was more important than any other match taking place that w/e anywhere
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The poll question doesn’t even make sense
Do you want to get rid?
yes keep it
no get rid
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Henry Irving said:
Excellent stuff @DyerConsequencesDyerConsequences said:Leicester won't have been for a long time, if ever. Only played them 53 times in total. Top 10 for reference:
1. Portsmouth 116
2. Middlesbrough 106
3. Bolton 95
4. Derby 92
5. Huddersfield 90
6. Wolves 85
7. Sunderland 83
7. Norwich 83
9. Blackburn 81
10. Cardiff 77
Does the Derby total include tomorrow's game?
Assume you're only counting league, FA Cup, League Cup, Anglo Italian and play-offs?
PS can I nick this for the museum's twitter?
No doesn't include tomorrow's game in those figures. Yes absolutely you're welcome to use it. It's all senior games since 1920/21, so League, playoffs, FA Cup, League Cup, Anglo Italian, EFL Trophy and Full Members Cup.1 -
Cheers @DyerConsequences2
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Paul Treacy is a Charlton fan who works inthe Royal Fusiliers Museum, thanks for sharing the article I hadn't seen it.
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‘Still bob, bob, bobbing along after 65 years…’A short history of Red, Red Robin by Clive Harris, Charlton Athletic MuseumThere are without doubt four key elements that define our beloved football club.Among supporters, whilst they are questioned and even challenged at times, they remain somehowaloft, untouchable, irreplaceable, for they are Charlton Athletic.In no hierarchal order they we have our original nickname ‘the Addicks’, unique, dating from thevery start of our clubs history. Whilst at times it has been temporarily displaced by ‘the Robins’ or‘the Valliant’s’, ‘the Addicks’ remains ours (never the Addicts or Latics for the benefit of any pressreading this).The Valley, despite being one of eight grounds Charlton have played at, it’s our only true home, onethat has witnessed the highs, the lows, near destruction and then deliverance of our football club.Seldom few can boast a stadium, where, as the words ‘there’s been a goal at the Valley’ pass JeffStelling’s lips, football fans across the country know that Charlton are involved.Red shirts, worn since the East Street lads first formed a team in June 1905, with two shortexceptions, (the ill-fated sojourn to Catford in 1923 where blue stripes were adopted and once morein the mid-1960s where rebranding provided a popular if short lived mainly white offering), we havealways played in red, in fact a particular ‘Charlton Red’ not to be messed with.All three lead to and link to perhaps the most revered, yet often debated, unwritten rule in myhypothetical constitution of our club. The Addicks must run out onto the Valley turf, wearing redshirts, to the sound of ‘Red, Red, Robin’The song, first written in 1926 by Harry Woods, a contemporary of Irving Berlin, was sung by childmusic star Lilly Roth and became an instant hit. Different versions charting no less than six timesthroughout the year, most notably that recorded by Al Johnson featured on the big screen in ‘ThePlantation Act’. It’s popularity as a jazz standard remained over the next few decades includingrecordings by Bing Crosby, Julie London and Dean Martin.There is no doubt that celebrity supporter Billy Cotton played a considerable role in its adoption byCharlton. Cotton, a quite remarkable character, was born in London and served in the GallipoliCampaign before being commissioned into the Royal Flying Corps. He played amateur football forboth Wimbledon and Brentford and worked on the buses before turning entirely to music in 1924when he formed the London Savannah Band. His popularity grew throughout the Second World Warthrough his work for ENSA entertaining troops, during his spare time he was a successful racingdriver, once attempting the land speed record (though failing he did reach an impressive 121.5 mph)and finishing fourth in a Silverstone Grand Prix in 1949. He was an accomplished boxer and flew hisown Gipsy Moth Aircraft. Quite when he started regularly watching Charlton remains somewhat of amystery.Anecdotal stories from older supporters suggest they heard ‘Red, Red, Robin’ at the Valley pre-warand a story has emerged that it was recorded for the club by Billy Cotton to commemorate their riseto the First Division in 1936. It has been impossible to substantiate this; in fact, all the evidencepoints to its emergence some 18 years later.Among the museum’s collection we are fortunate to hold the clubs board minutes dating back to the 1920s. The entry for 12 February 1953 reads:
The Chairman said that with Mr Billy Cotton’s co-operation a record would be made with suitablewords, written by a song writer, to the tune of the Red Red Robin, this could be played as a signaturetune at all our home matches’.Whilst it may be that other versions were played over the tannoy before this new release, BillyCottons version featuring ‘the bandits’, was first pressed by Decca records on 78rpm in mid-October1954 (its B side being Hopalong Cassidy). It featured the band members spelling out C-H-A-R-L-T-O-Nand ended with a rousing Addicks Away! Neither appears on the current recording we play.Our first home fixture after that date was an eventful 4-1 victory over Cardiff City in front of 26,376on the 23 October, there is a delightful irony that after running out for the first time to the sounds ofRed, Red, Robin we were to concede within 30 seconds! A vastly improved second half saw goalsfrom Bobby Ayre (52), Sid O’Linn (70) and a brace from Billy Kiernan (72, 87) send the Valley faithfulhome happy in a game where crowd scenes were filmed for Arthur Askey’s film ‘The Love Match’.If so, then this centenary year of the Valley also witnesses the 65th year of our famous old anthembeing played as the teams run out onto the Valley turf.Opposing fans my mock it, some ‘cooler’ supporters may occasionally say they are embarrassed by itand the odd idea may emerge that it fails to inspire the players of today but, like Norwich’s ‘On theBall City’ and Birmingham’s ‘Keep Right on to the End of the Road’ it reflects the history and fabric ofour club. I would be confident that Drakes current offering, as contemporary as it sounds, would notlast the 65 years Red, Red Robin has.Quite simply Red, Red Robin is our song, (ok, along with perhaps Hull Kingston Rovers who also playa version), it featured on Desert Island Discs as John Motsons earliest memory of a football matchand has welcomed our heroes to the field for almost 1500 games since its introduction, it has rungout around Wembley, most notably this spring when over 40.000 ecstatic Addicks sung along.Long may it continue for another 65 years so my son can share it with his grandchildren as I did withmy grandad, and for now Charlton fans everywhere, Live, Love, Laugh and Be Happy.9 -
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Correction.
In the Clive Harris piece I think he means ‘Al Jolson’ not ‘Al Johnson’.1 -
We could change shirts to blue, ground share with Millwall, have a Sparrow as our mascot and like Crystal Palace. Is this bloke winding us up? FFS0
