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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic vs Carlisle United: Saturday 9th March 2024 | KO 15:00
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Manic_mania said:BigDiddy said:Manic_mania said:BigDiddy said:Vital win, but as others have said, our squad needs a major rebuild
Those not good enough or do not offer any value, in my view, must leave the club.
I know I am off topic, but watching today, I thought what a job NJ has to get us into the promotion push next year.
The problem will be Andy Scott, who is clueless on recruitment, given the chaotic nature of our squad.
NJ looks a proper manager, but the sorting out of the squad need to start in early May.
It is a massive challenge, but below is my take on it
Must keeps
- Small
- EDG
- ConCov
- May
- Leaburn
- Kanu
- Dobbo [if he plays like today and wants to stay]
- Anderson [ he will get better]
Loans - please sort out the mess !
The rubbish loanees can all go back to their parent club
The rubbish we have loaned out - that’s a huge issue/problem
Not good enough, so must go
Goalkeepers - Isted and AMB
Thomas - get rid
Edun - get rid
Ladapo - get rid
Bakinson - get rid
Hector - get rid
Ness - sell or loan out
Chin - sell or loan out
L Watson - get rid
The “never fit”, so must go
Taylor
Ramsey
Chuks
Camara
Jury’s still out….a risk
Ghillesphey
T Watson
Jones
Wickham [ his fitness will be the problem]
Youngsters not quite ready, so loan out?
Asiimwe - needs game time
Campbell - need game time
Henry - last chance saloon
Never let them wear the shirt again [if they are still on our books]
Payne
Fraser
Deejay
Mcgrandles
Kirk
Fiorini
edit to add (whilst I checked)
Payne, DJ contracts are up end of season (so essentially no longer CAFC players), Kirk doesn't have a contract with us, Fiorini is another loan so really you are saying Fraser and Mcgrandles.
Fair comment on the detail, but whichever way you cut it, the squad needs a massive change - question is, will Scott be allowed to rule the roost on future transfers?
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killerandflash said:Manic_mania said:BigDiddy said:Manic_mania said:BigDiddy said:Vital win, but as others have said, our squad needs a major rebuild
Those not good enough or do not offer any value, in my view, must leave the club.
I know I am off topic, but watching today, I thought what a job NJ has to get us into the promotion push next year.
The problem will be Andy Scott, who is clueless on recruitment, given the chaotic nature of our squad.
NJ looks a proper manager, but the sorting out of the squad need to start in early May.
It is a massive challenge, but below is my take on it
Must keeps
- Small
- EDG
- ConCov
- May
- Leaburn
- Kanu
- Dobbo [if he plays like today and wants to stay]
- Anderson [ he will get better]
Loans - please sort out the mess !
The rubbish loanees can all go back to their parent club
The rubbish we have loaned out - that’s a huge issue/problem
Not good enough, so must go
Goalkeepers - Isted and AMB
Thomas - get rid
Edun - get rid
Ladapo - get rid
Bakinson - get rid
Hector - get rid
Ness - sell or loan out
Chin - sell or loan out
L Watson - get rid
The “never fit”, so must go
Taylor
Ramsey
Chuks
Camara
Jury’s still out….a risk
Ghillesphey
T Watson
Jones
Wickham [ his fitness will be the problem]
Youngsters not quite ready, so loan out?
Asiimwe - needs game time
Campbell - need game time
Henry - last chance saloon
Never let them wear the shirt again [if they are still on our books]
Payne
Fraser
Deejay
Mcgrandles
Kirk
Fiorini
edit to add (whilst I checked)
Payne, DJ contracts are up end of season (so essentially no longer CAFC players), Kirk doesn't have a contract with us, Fiorini is another loan so really you are saying Fraser and Mcgrandles.
Fair comment on the detail, but whichever way you cut it, the squad needs a massive change - question is, will Scott be allowed to rule the roost on future transfers?
We have a decent looking manager for the first time in years, so now the back office needs to be as good
We also have owners who will spend hard cash - the piss poor recruitment of players [and until now, managers] has been the root cause of our decline. Scott is our main problem and that is why he needs to go.
I reckon 10-15 players may need to go this summer - do we really want Scott running that recruitment?
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BigDiddy said:killerandflash said:Manic_mania said:BigDiddy said:Manic_mania said:BigDiddy said:Vital win, but as others have said, our squad needs a major rebuild
Those not good enough or do not offer any value, in my view, must leave the club.
I know I am off topic, but watching today, I thought what a job NJ has to get us into the promotion push next year.
The problem will be Andy Scott, who is clueless on recruitment, given the chaotic nature of our squad.
NJ looks a proper manager, but the sorting out of the squad need to start in early May.
It is a massive challenge, but below is my take on it
Must keeps
- Small
- EDG
- ConCov
- May
- Leaburn
- Kanu
- Dobbo [if he plays like today and wants to stay]
- Anderson [ he will get better]
Loans - please sort out the mess !
The rubbish loanees can all go back to their parent club
The rubbish we have loaned out - that’s a huge issue/problem
Not good enough, so must go
Goalkeepers - Isted and AMB
Thomas - get rid
Edun - get rid
Ladapo - get rid
Bakinson - get rid
Hector - get rid
Ness - sell or loan out
Chin - sell or loan out
L Watson - get rid
The “never fit”, so must go
Taylor
Ramsey
Chuks
Camara
Jury’s still out….a risk
Ghillesphey
T Watson
Jones
Wickham [ his fitness will be the problem]
Youngsters not quite ready, so loan out?
Asiimwe - needs game time
Campbell - need game time
Henry - last chance saloon
Never let them wear the shirt again [if they are still on our books]
Payne
Fraser
Deejay
Mcgrandles
Kirk
Fiorini
edit to add (whilst I checked)
Payne, DJ contracts are up end of season (so essentially no longer CAFC players), Kirk doesn't have a contract with us, Fiorini is another loan so really you are saying Fraser and Mcgrandles.
Fair comment on the detail, but whichever way you cut it, the squad needs a massive change - question is, will Scott be allowed to rule the roost on future transfers?
The guy is an idiot.
We have a decent looking manager for the first time in years, so now the back office needs to be as good.
Scott needs to go.7 -
Rothko said:BigDiddy said:killerandflash said:Manic_mania said:BigDiddy said:Manic_mania said:BigDiddy said:Vital win, but as others have said, our squad needs a major rebuild
Those not good enough or do not offer any value, in my view, must leave the club.
I know I am off topic, but watching today, I thought what a job NJ has to get us into the promotion push next year.
The problem will be Andy Scott, who is clueless on recruitment, given the chaotic nature of our squad.
NJ looks a proper manager, but the sorting out of the squad need to start in early May.
It is a massive challenge, but below is my take on it
Must keeps
- Small
- EDG
- ConCov
- May
- Leaburn
- Kanu
- Dobbo [if he plays like today and wants to stay]
- Anderson [ he will get better]
Loans - please sort out the mess !
The rubbish loanees can all go back to their parent club
The rubbish we have loaned out - that’s a huge issue/problem
Not good enough, so must go
Goalkeepers - Isted and AMB
Thomas - get rid
Edun - get rid
Ladapo - get rid
Bakinson - get rid
Hector - get rid
Ness - sell or loan out
Chin - sell or loan out
L Watson - get rid
The “never fit”, so must go
Taylor
Ramsey
Chuks
Camara
Jury’s still out….a risk
Ghillesphey
T Watson
Jones
Wickham [ his fitness will be the problem]
Youngsters not quite ready, so loan out?
Asiimwe - needs game time
Campbell - need game time
Henry - last chance saloon
Never let them wear the shirt again [if they are still on our books]
Payne
Fraser
Deejay
Mcgrandles
Kirk
Fiorini
edit to add (whilst I checked)
Payne, DJ contracts are up end of season (so essentially no longer CAFC players), Kirk doesn't have a contract with us, Fiorini is another loan so really you are saying Fraser and Mcgrandles.
Fair comment on the detail, but whichever way you cut it, the squad needs a massive change - question is, will Scott be allowed to rule the roost on future transfers?
The guy is an idiot.
We have a decent looking manager for the first time in years, so now the back office needs to be as good.
Scott needs to go.
Forest are a ticking time bomb2 -
Valiantphil said:And TT ?
on stats he is our best defender, and he almost certainly stopped 2-0 with the header out for a corner today.
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Valleysarr said:ElfsborgAddick said:jamesking93 said:Dobson was brilliant today- great performance alongside Coventry.Had a good game also he will be part of our future0
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Only Charlton can go from a maneger who spent 6 months with his hands in pockets like a mute statue to a guy who goes ballistic at a dubious throw-in.
Long may it continue. Season is done. We’re safe. Let’s see what NJ can do (“god willing”). UTA
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Jones coaches the players from the touchline. It's so good to see and how much a team like ours needs that.
Getting Small to tuck inside rather than bomb down the wing, Dobbo to be bit more aware of runs on the left, Gillesphey to release the ball much quicker, etc.16 -
LargeAddick said:Valleysarr said:ElfsborgAddick said:jamesking93 said:Dobson was brilliant today- great performance alongside Coventry.Had a good game also he will be part of our future4
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charltonbob said:LargeAddick said:Valleysarr said:ElfsborgAddick said:jamesking93 said:Dobson was brilliant today- great performance alongside Coventry.Had a good game also he will be part of our futureIf Dobbo signed it and is now regretting it, he only has himself to blame.9
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JamesSeed said:Carlisle weren’t too bad, all things considered. We’ve played worse teams this season. Just shows what a weird league this is.Coventry is very good, and Wickham looked really sharp.No Tuesday game, so an opportunity to take stock.10
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The ref was poor, but not surprised. Our forwards were being heavily manhandled which was only clear to see in the ground. He gave a penalty for what he could not see in fouls. It also felt Karoy would be on the receiving end of a second yellow at some stage.
Excellent penalty from them btw. As good as you'll ever see in fact.0 -
Ducktapeshoerepairs said:JamesSeed said:Carlisle weren’t too bad, all things considered. We’ve played worse teams this season. Just shows what a weird league this is.Coventry is very good, and Wickham looked really sharp.No Tuesday game, so an opportunity to take stock.5
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Must be safe now what a turnaround the past few weeks have been.1
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Carlisle played some decent football and were on top for periods but without creating much.
Certainly not the worst team to visit the Valley this year yet bottom and going down.
Lavelle was done for all three goals.
It was frustrating that Watson saw so little of the ball in attacking areas as he's been a big attacking threat in recent weeks. When he did, he was dangerous.
Lovely finish from Kanu, fair reward for his hard running.
May back to his best with two simple but smart finishes.
Wickham a more than useful sub in terms of skill and physical presence but he was knackered at the final whistle.
As all season we conceed too many, too often but we seem more resolute now under NJ and took a deserved three points.
PS Armstrong looked a decent striker. Might be worth a look.
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BigDiddy said:Vital win, but as others have said, our squad needs a major rebuild
Those not good enough or do not offer any value, in my view, must leave the club.
I know I am off topic, but watching today, I thought what a job NJ has to get us into the promotion push next year.
The problem will be Andy Scott, who is clueless on recruitment, given the chaotic nature of our squad.
NJ looks a proper manager, but the sorting out of the squad need to start in early May.
It is a massive challenge, but below is my take on it
Must keeps
- Small
- EDG
- ConCov
- May
- Leaburn
- Kanu
- Dobbo [if he plays like today and wants to stay]
- Anderson [ he will get better]
Loans - please sort out the mess !
The rubbish loanees can all go back to their parent club
The rubbish we have loaned out - that’s a huge issue/problem
Not good enough, so must go
Goalkeepers - Isted and AMB
Thomas - get rid
Edun - get rid
Ladapo - get rid
Bakinson - get rid
Hector - get rid
Ness - sell or loan out
Chin - sell or loan out
L Watson - get rid
The “never fit”, so must go
Taylor
Ramsey
Chuks
Camara
Jury’s still out….a risk
Ghillesphey
T Watson
Jones
Wickham [ his fitness will be the problem]
Youngsters not quite ready, so loan out?
Asiimwe - needs game time
Campbell - need game time
Henry - last chance saloon
Never let them wear the shirt again [if they are still on our books]
Payne
Fraser
Deejay
Mcgrandles
Kirk
Fiorini9 -
Playing side bottom of table, who are on a dreadful run - did I expect a delightful display of the beautiful game
Nope
We won - in parts we were very good - in parts poor - in parts indifferent
All I will say
3 points - home win - next season is next season - not long ago, the fear of Div 4 was real - not so much now
Just keep on keeping on Charlton6 -
Having seen the highlights, was their first goal technically an own goal from Isted? It looked like he pushed the ball onto the post and in.
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PragueAddick said:FishCostaFortune said:PragueAddick said:Rothko said:Win ugly, job done, as for Anderson, felt he was off it from the moment he got bookedPeople should give him a break, especially after that inane booking.People have quite rightly pointed out that he underperformed the last couple of games, has looked leggy, and could do with a rest.
That’s just factual observation and discussion from the fans.CatAddick said:PragueAddick said:Rothko said:Win ugly, job done, as for Anderson, felt he was off it from the moment he got bookedPeople should give him a break, especially after that inane booking.
I agree the lad has given his all and is spent. People need to have some perspective1 -
1st home win in the league since November 28th 2023, & 1st time this season we’ve recorded back to back wins, in the league, heady times!1
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Callumcafc said:charltonbob said:LargeAddick said:Valleysarr said:ElfsborgAddick said:jamesking93 said:Dobson was brilliant today- great performance alongside Coventry.Had a good game also he will be part of our futureIf Dobbo signed it and is now regretting it, he only has himself to blame.
100% this, heard similar.
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CL_Phantom said:Callumcafc said:charltonbob said:LargeAddick said:Valleysarr said:ElfsborgAddick said:jamesking93 said:Dobson was brilliant today- great performance alongside Coventry.Had a good game also he will be part of our futureIf Dobbo signed it and is now regretting it, he only has himself to blame.
100% this, heard similar.6 -
Bailey said:BigDiddy said:Vital win, but as others have said, our squad needs a major rebuild
Those not good enough or do not offer any value, in my view, must leave the club.
I know I am off topic, but watching today, I thought what a job NJ has to get us into the promotion push next year.
The problem will be Andy Scott, who is clueless on recruitment, given the chaotic nature of our squad.
NJ looks a proper manager, but the sorting out of the squad need to start in early May.
It is a massive challenge, but below is my take on it
Must keeps
- Small
- EDG
- ConCov
- May
- Leaburn
- Kanu
- Dobbo [if he plays like today and wants to stay]
- Anderson [ he will get better]
Loans - please sort out the mess !
The rubbish loanees can all go back to their parent club
The rubbish we have loaned out - that’s a huge issue/problem
Not good enough, so must go
Goalkeepers - Isted and AMB
Thomas - get rid
Edun - get rid
Ladapo - get rid
Bakinson - get rid
Hector - get rid
Ness - sell or loan out
Chin - sell or loan out
L Watson - get rid
The “never fit”, so must go
Taylor
Ramsey
Chuks
Camara
Jury’s still out….a risk
Ghillesphey
T Watson
Jones
Wickham [ his fitness will be the problem]
Youngsters not quite ready, so loan out?
Asiimwe - needs game time
Campbell - need game time
Henry - last chance saloon
Never let them wear the shirt again [if they are still on our books]
Payne
Fraser
Deejay
Mcgrandles
Kirk
Fiorini
Note the comment “[If they are still on our books]” - I was not sure about some of them as our squad is so chaotic.
The point of my post was to highlight the problem with Scott.1 -
As our ex players invariably score against us, it was pleasing that Sam Lavelle had a helping hand in all 3 of ours goals, in particular the winner.14
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killerandflash said:That draw against Lincoln is looking better and better every week, they won 5-1 at Barnsley today! If Lincoln can reach the playoffs, they'll be so full of confidence.
Wow.
If those goals don't fill you with confidence, nothing will.0 -
What is really sad is that if NJ had come in 5 games earlier, in mid January, we could well be on the fringes of the playoffs by now.7
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BigDiddy said:Callumcafc said:Todds_right_hook said:BigDiddy said:Vital win, but as others have said, our squad needs a major rebuild
Those not good enough or do not offer any value, in my view, must leave the club.
I know I am off topic, but watching today, I thought what a job NJ has to get us into the promotion push next year.
The problem will be Andy Scott, who is clueless on recruitment, given the chaotic nature of our squad.
NJ looks a proper manager, but the sorting out of the squad need to start in early May.
It is a massive challenge, but below is my take on it
Must keeps
- Small
- EDG
- ConCov
- May
- Leaburn
- Kanu
- Dobbo [if he plays like today and wants to stay]
- Anderson [ he will get better]
Loans - please sort out the mess !
The rubbish loanees can all go back to their parent club
The rubbish we have loaned out - that’s a huge issue/problem
Not good enough, so must go
Goalkeepers - Isted and AMB
Thomas - get rid
Edun - get rid
Ladapo - get rid
Bakinson - get rid
Hector - get rid
Ness - sell or loan out
Chin - sell or loan out
L Watson - get rid
The “never fit”, so must go
Taylor
Ramsey
Chuks
Camara
Jury’s still out….a risk
Ghillesphey
T Watson
Jones
Wickham [ his fitness will be the problem]
Youngsters not quite ready, so loan out?
Asiimwe - needs game time
Campbell - need game time
Henry - last chance saloon
Never let them wear the shirt again [if they are still on our books]
Payne
Fraser
Deejay
Mcgrandles
Kirk
Fiorini
We cant go on as before and yes some departures may be brutal - NJ seems very good, so the squad will be an issue and decisions will need to be made about some players.
It’s madness to have a massive squad like ours with the range of crap or unfit players.
Thats the main point - if Ramsey and Taylor do turn out, of course they can then be judged, but I’ve seen little of either, hence my view
Hilarious.23 -
BigDiddy said:Vital win, but as others have said, our squad needs a major rebuild
Those not good enough or do not offer any value, in my view, must leave the club.
I know I am off topic, but watching today, I thought what a job NJ has to get us into the promotion push next year.
The problem will be Andy Scott, who is clueless on recruitment, given the chaotic nature of our squad.
NJ looks a proper manager, but the sorting out of the squad need to start in early May.4