POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic vs Carlisle United: Saturday 9th March 2024 | KO 15:00

Ducktapeshoerepairs said:

JamesSeed said:

Carlisle weren’t too bad, all things considered. We’ve played worse teams this season. Just shows what a weird league this is. 

Coventry is very good, and Wickham looked really sharp. 

No Tuesday game, so an opportunity to take stock. 

Did Wickham look ‘really sharp’ ? I must have been watching the wrong human being 

I was expecting someone who would be way off the pace having not played for so long, like Ladapo maybe, but was impressed with his touch. 

aliwibble said:

Having seen the highlights, was their first goal technically an own goal from Isted? It looked like he pushed the ball onto the post and in.

With a keeper it would only be deemed an own goal if the shot wasn’t on target. 

BigDiddy said:

Bailey said:

BigDiddy said:

Vital win, but as others have said, our squad needs a major rebuild

Those not good enough or do not offer any value, in my view, must leave the club.

I know I am off topic, but watching today, I thought what a job NJ has to get us into the promotion push next year.

The problem will be Andy Scott, who is clueless on recruitment, given the chaotic nature of our squad.

NJ looks a proper manager, but the sorting out of the squad need to start in early May.

It is a massive challenge, but below is my take on it

Must keeps 

- Small
- EDG 
- ConCov
- May 
- Leaburn
- Kanu
- Dobbo [if he plays like today and wants to stay]
- Anderson [ he will get better]

Loans - please sort out the mess !

The rubbish loanees can all go back to their parent club
The rubbish we have loaned out - that’s a huge issue/problem

Not good enough, so must go

Goalkeepers - Isted and AMB
Thomas - get rid
Edun - get rid
Ladapo - get rid
Bakinson - get rid
Hector - get rid
Ness - sell or loan out
Chin - sell or loan out
L Watson - get rid 

The “never fit”, so must go

Taylor 
Ramsey 
Chuks
Camara

Jury’s still out….a risk 

Ghillesphey 
T Watson 
Jones 
Wickham [ his fitness will be the problem]

Youngsters not quite ready, so loan out?

 Asiimwe - needs game time 
Campbell - need game time
Henry - last chance saloon 

Never let them wear the shirt again [if they are still on our books]

Payne
Fraser
Deejay
Mcgrandles 
Kirk
Fiorini 

Big Diddy were you drinking when you wrote that ?  Firstly have a look at the players who's contracts are up in July, your get rid list includes loanees, we won't have to 'get rid' they return to the parent club as the loan is over, that includes Camara who is in your 'never fit so must list. Just one more thing, I know you stated sometime ago that you don't attend games but it might be a good idea to get down to the Valley but when you do don't look for Charlie Kirk, he left the club in December. 

I was there today - as soon as Apples was sacked, I returned.

Note the comment “[If they are still on our books]” - I was not sure about some of them as our squad is so chaotic.

The point of my post was to highlight the problem with Scott.

I will agree with you on that. I have never been a lover of this 'I buy the players and you select the team' ethos, I'm sure there are successful models but we have sacked two managers and the individual who put a poor as piss squad together is still getting paid. I have convinced myself with no evidence whatsoever that Jones took the job on the proviso that he was involved in all aspects of incomings and outgoings and a good thing too if that's the case. And welcome back Diddy, glad you feel its right to return. 

Leuth said:

sirjohnhumphrey said:

Was it Coventry who played the ball to Kanu for his goal?
If so very reminiscent of the pass he made against Derby when Kanu won the penalty. Developing a good understanding.

It was May

When he hit that pass I went ‘No, May!’ I thought he was too far from Kanu, who was too isolated. Oops. 

tangoflash said:

mendonca said:

Shame the highlights haven't captured the nice move that saw Kanu's headed bit the wood/metal work.

Plastic.

Harsh

As for the whole game:

- I never felt too worried about where the goals were gonna come from. Carlisle looked suspect and like they were setting their stall out to defend as soon as we had possession in anything resembling an attacking area. Took a couple of good finishes and a mistake from Lavelle for us to get the three goals we needed but hey, we got them. Results are what matter right now.

- The penalty was a foul in the box and a bit of a soft one. Gillesphey wasn't really thinking I don't think. Their opener was... weird. I don't really know how the bloke even got the shot away, let alone how it went in. It wasn't deserved and I'm glad we responded as we did.

- Thierry Small will eventually have things click and look like prime Roberto Carlos for one game - all the stuff he tries will come off. But that might be a while away! Very pleased to have him about; he's got a very good attitude.

- In general this side shows a lot of willing and a lot of teamwork, rather than trying to shine as individuals. The cultural transformation has been excellent under NJ.

- Terell Thomas has had quite the renaissance - he's gone from "okay squad player" to "he has to start", for me. I'd have Jones over Gillesphey, for the time being. Rarmani Edmonds-Green looks like he could be part of a good team next season. If we were going to seriously challenge for promotion... I don't know about Tennai Watson. But then we've got Kayne Ramsay who we don't know enough about.

- I like all of Dobbo (obviously), Coventry and Karoy Anderson. But Karoy is not currently good enough to be part of a promotion-pushing team, imo, and I think Dobbo/Coventry are quite similar. I'd want a CM that brings something different - be that a Camara/Bakinson type (neither imho are quite good enough), or be it a twinkle-toes playmaker sort of player. Yesterday there was a decent understanding in the centre of the part but I didn't quite see enough to be convinced we'd unlock defences again and again, which the best teams do.

- Love you Alfie May. Love you Dan Kanu. Can't wait to see what happens when Leaburn is fit, eventually. We're pretty sorted up front imho, adding in Chuks into the mix (touch wood).

- I think we need a new keeper but don't mind if that's further down the list of priorities.

Lots to be positive about and to build on, and I don't think we've got a bad foundation for next season. Here's hoping we can finish this one strongly!

PragueAddick said:

Rothko said:

Win ugly, job done, as for Anderson, felt he was off it from the moment he got booked 

Well as you might expect from a 19-year old  who knows people criticised his previous performancé and then gets a quite ridiculous booking from an inexperienced ref looking to “stamp his authority”. Then being penalised twice more for daring to tacklé and to top it off, being blocked off by the sodding ref when he had a break on. 

People should give him a break, especially after that inane booking. 

It's the manager's job to see he's not on his game and deal with the situation.  I don't see anyone having a dig at a 19 year old.

BigDiddy said:

Off_it said:

BigDiddy said:

Vital win, but as others have said, our squad needs a major rebuild

Those not good enough or do not offer any value, in my view, must leave the club.

I know I am off topic, but watching today, I thought what a job NJ has to get us into the promotion push next year.

The problem will be Andy Scott, who is clueless on recruitment, given the chaotic nature of our squad.

NJ looks a proper manager, but the sorting out of the squad need to start in early May.

Out of interest, who recruited Nathan Jones?

Jones would have been recruited by those above him - Warwick and Methven.

I think the owners look as though they will spend - my gripe is not about them, but is about the senior team here.  If Jones is now making key decisions on recruitment, what is the point of Scott?

Just need very good scouts to check out targets and report.

My point is about the piss poor recruitment that has led to us flirting with relegation this year - that must never happen again, so it will start with how we do in the next window, not wait until the ends of the window to pick up whoever is left in the market 

NJ has done a great job, but we still look like a mid table L1 team, with a few really good players.

That is why the club needs to change recruitment [and retention] and it needs to start in May.

Leave May alone ffs

AddicksAddict said:

LargeAddick said:

Sillybilly said:

Probably the worst five goal thriller I’ve ever witnessed. Dire game. Zero quality on show. But a win is a win is a win and we are surely now pretty much safe from the dreaded R word. Highlight of the day was Alfie landing on his arse attempting a bootless tunnel jump. We could argue that a lamentable Carlisle dragged us down a level or plead tiredness after a pile of games in short order. Or maybe we’re just a mid tier side in a piss poor league. 

Anderson turned in a performance of Charlie Kirk levels of competence, the difference being that young Karoy clearly gives a f••k. He should have been rested today and hopefully will be hence forward. Other than Alfie and Kanu (why does Charlotte continually refer to him as “Canoe”?) that was a team full of 6 out of 10 performances. But it was good enough and that’s the main thing. 

 Notable assist from agent Lavelle. Nice chap. 

Anderson wasn't great but a three on the player marks thread? You really are a silly billy.

It's not really anyone's job to critique anyone else's player marks.  We're all entitled to our opinion.  Well, except ronniemoore.

For some on here it's a regular hobby to comment on other people's marks.

I once got an inbox from someone saying my mark for one player was wrong. They weren't even at the game!

BarnsleyBear said:

First match at Valley all year. Not pretty but a wins a win. Loved Alfie’s tunnel jump. Love NJ. The man has passion. How did we convince either Alfie or NJ to join us???

BTW please can someone explain the words to Alfie and Kanu’s songs please? 

Is there a songs page on here?

A scrappy game lacking in any great skill, but I found it reasonably entertaining. A very important result that gives us breathing space. I think a win against Fleetwood will be enough to keep us up - I can't see the bottom four getting to 47 points. I hope we can maintain the intensity until the end of the season. I think it important we finish on a high and hopefully carry that form into next season.

I thought Carlisle looked okay, and certainly didn't look like a team cast adrift at the bottom of the league. I have seen worse this season (excluding us)!

Great to see Alfie May back in the goals and enjoying his football. Kanu also had another great game.