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Charlton squad out of contract for next season - who to keep?
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Here is the list of our squad members who are out of contract at the end of the season:
Thierry Small,
Tyreeq Bakinson (his Wednesday contract expires this summer),
Connor Wickham,
Michael Hector,
Panutche Camara (his Ipswich contract expires this summer),
Terell Thomas,
Lewis Ward,
Lucas Ness,
George Dobson,
Jack Payne,
Diallang Jaiyesimi,
Richard Chin.
Who would you keep on for next season's promotion/play-off push?
Bearing in mind we already have 21 players contracted already for next season with Fraser, Mitchell, Henry and McGrandles coming back.
(You can include LuaLua but I felt it's too early to make a judgement really on him in particular and possibly Wickham).
Thierry Small,
Tyreeq Bakinson (his Wednesday contract expires this summer),
Connor Wickham,
Michael Hector,
Panutche Camara (his Ipswich contract expires this summer),
Terell Thomas,
Lewis Ward,
Lucas Ness,
George Dobson,
Jack Payne,
Diallang Jaiyesimi,
Richard Chin.
Who would you keep on for next season's promotion/play-off push?
Bearing in mind we already have 21 players contracted already for next season with Fraser, Mitchell, Henry and McGrandles coming back.
(You can include LuaLua but I felt it's too early to make a judgement really on him in particular and possibly Wickham).
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Keep:
Dobson (but he’s leaving)
Thomas - he’s cheap backup and can play across the back 3
Small
Maybe keep Bakinson, but only as a squad player so it would probably involve us getting McGrandles and Fraser out which might be tricky
Probably get rid of the rest, unless Wickham or Lua Lua stay fit and play well between now and the end of the season then maybe they can earn a deal1 -
Thierry Small has an option so would activate that now at a minimum
Hector if he's happy to be a backup
not seen enough of Wickham to judge, Camara a big risk given his injury record last few seasons, rest can go
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I had forgotten all about DJ, how will we cope?
Can you imagine how shit he’d be without those performance enhancing sock slits he swears by…0 -
Dobson I would have if we could, sad we can't.
Small we need to extend.
Ness I'd be tempted still, still young and was decent last season but wouldn't be too gutted if we didn't extend - what's the age limit on compensation if we make an offer, 21 or 23?
Lua Lua and Wickham no idea, too early to tell.
That's about it. Thomas is OK but I hope we can improve on him.0 -
Lewis Ward... Lets be honest he's not been signed to ever be in First Team contention, and is probably doing everything required of him, by being there in U21 games to guide the youngsters.
Thierry Small - Reckon he could be one of the best Left-Backs in this League next season.
Those are the only two I'd keep 100% - Dobson as well, if there was a chance of us keeping him.
If we see extensions for Payne and Jaiyesimi then the world has either gone mad, or Nathan Jones is a genuine magician who'll turn them into Foden and Mbappe!!
Bakinson and Thomas I'd maybe keep as squad options if we cant get better (then we could be in trouble), Ness I'd offer a deal to, to ensure we don't at least lose him without any form of compensation - Wickham prior to yesterday I'd have considered a one year deal, but if he's injured already then no thank you... We've got Leaburn and Aneke who can play the job of injured target man perfectly.2 -
Keep:
Thierry Small
Terell Thomas as backup
Lewis Ward (3rd choice so will hardly play anyway)
George Dobson (if possible with the pre-contract agreement in place)
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Thierry Small - KEEP and try to extend
Tyreeq Bakinson - LET GO
Connor Wickham - LEG GO
Michael Hector - LET GO
Panutche Camara (his Ipswich contract expires this summer) - I would like to offer him a year contract. Still think with a full pre season there is a player there
Terell Thomas - KEEP (perfect cover across the back)
Lewis Ward - LET GO
Lucas Ness - LET GO
George Dobson - KEEP if we can do
Jack Payne - LET GO
Diallang Jaiyesimi - LET GO
Richard Chin - LET GO
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Thierry Small, - Definitely
Tyreeq Bakinson - Possibly
Connor Wickham, - Not seen enough of him yet
Michael Hector, - No
Panutche Camara - No
Terell Thomas, No
Lewis Ward,- No
Lucas Ness, - Maybe loan him out .
George Dobson - Number one target - I don't care if he's signed a contract i'm sure we can do something to keep him.
Jack Payne - No
Diallang Jaiyesimi . i Thought he'd already gone
Richard Chin. - No
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Thierry Small - Keep.
Tyreeq Bakinson - Tempting, but we need to sign players who improve us, not squadies. Let go.
Connor Wickham - Great quality, but injury prone: Let go.
Michael Hector - Please god: Let go.
Panutche Camara - Won't get over his injuries: Let go.
Terell Thomas - I like him, but we can sign someone better: Let go.
Lewis Ward - Let go.
Lucas Ness - Has a low ceiling: Let go.
George Dobson - Don't think he should be on the list, he's gone
Jack Payne - Ha
Diallang Jaiyesimi - Hahaha
Richard Chin - Don't think he has the physicality for L1: Let go.
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Question is can we really sign a 5th choice centre back on a backup wage that is better than Thomas? I don’t think so, definitely not one that is equally as good across all 3 positions. We don’t have an unlimited budget so you have to consider that. We can’t have 5 centre backs all on good money, otherwise we won’t be able to strengthen where we need to elsewhereChunes said:Thierry Small - Keep.
Tyreeq Bakinson - Tempting, but we need to sign players who improve us, not squadies. Let go.
Connor Wickham - Great quality, but injury prone: Let go.
Michael Hector - Please god: Let go.
Panutche Camara - Won't get over his injuries: Let go.
Terell Thomas - I like him, but we can sign someone better: Let go.
Lewis Ward - Let go.
Lucas Ness - Has a low ceiling: Let go.
George Dobson - Don't think he should be on the list, he's gone
Jack Payne - Ha
Diallang Jaiyesimi - Hahaha
Richard Chin - Don't think he has the physicality for L1: Let go.
We should aim to bring in a new first choice (Hector will free up some room), then we have REG, new player and Gillesphey starting, with Jones and Thomas backup
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Isted Stay
AMB go
Ward go
Jones Stay
Hector go
Thomas Stay
Ness go
Edun Stay
T Watson Stay
Mitchell go
Small Stay
Gillespie Stay
Chin go
Green Stay
Asiimwe Loan
Ramsey Stay
Dobson go
Fraser like him to stay think he would fit into Jones style of play
Payne go
DJ go
Camara return
Taylor Stay
Henry go
McGrandles go
Campbell go
Watson return
Bakinson return ( make offer )
Anderson stay
Coventry stay
Fiorini return
LuaLua ( 50/50 )
May Stay
Leaburn stay
Wickham (50/50)
Ladapo return
Aneke (50/50)
Kanu stay
Casey loan
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Small is the only one we 100% need to keep. Everyone else on that list is replaceable5
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Agree. Thomas as willing back up. Otherwise they can go.BigRedEvil said:Small is the only one we 100% need to keep. Everyone else on that list is replaceable0 -
Sorry what?RonnieMoore said:Isted Stay
AMB go
Ward go
Jones Stay
Hector go
Thomas Stay
Ness go
Edun Stay
T Watson Stay
Mitchell go
Small Stay
Gillespie Stay
Chin go
Green Stay
Asiimwe Loan
Ramsey Stay
Dobson go
Fraser like him to stay think he would fit into Jones style of play
Payne go
DJ go
Camara return
Taylor Stay
Henry go
McGrandles go
Campbell go
Watson return
Bakinson return ( make offer )
Anderson stay
Coventry stay
Fiorini return
LuaLua ( 50/50 )
May Stay
Leaburn stay
Wickham (50/50)
Ladapo return
Aneke (50/50)
Kanu stay
Casey loan
Why would you get rid of one of our brightest young defenders who only just turned 19 and is under contract until 2025?10 -
What we can’t afford is to keep gambling on players that have a dodgy medical history in the hope that might by some miracle stay fit for a season. This year we’ve had Camara, Aneke, McGrandles, Taylor, Leaburn (who seems to be going that way) and now Wickham and we’re constantly left short.7
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this again? Already been about three such threads in the last couple of weeks.3
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Keep Small.
Keep Dobbo if you can persuade him but I am certain he is gone.
Keep Bakinson and Thomas if they are very cheap for squad cover but not bothered on either.
Keep Ness if cheap and loan him out, but not bothered if he leaves.
Washington and LuaLua too early to call.
No to Hector, Camara, Ward, Payne + DJ.
Don't know enough about Chin.1 -
If possible keep Small, Thomas and Dobson.
With some regret others ought to be released, some wistful regret regarding Hector and Chin for example.1 -
Thierry Small - Yes
Tyreeq Bakinson (his Wednesday contract expires this summer) - no
Connor Wickham - not sure
Michael Hector - yes
Panutche Camara (his Ipswich contract expires this summer) - no
Terell Thomas,
Lewis Ward - no
Lucas Ness - no
George Dobson - yes (if at all possible)
Jack Payne - no
Diallang Jaiyesim - no
Richard Chin - no
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Washington lolAthletico Charlton said:Keep Small.
Keep Dobbo if you can persuade him but I am certain he is gone.
Keep Bakinson and Thomas if they are very cheap for squad cover but not bothered on either.
Keep Ness if cheap and loan him out, but not bothered if he leaves.
Washington and LuaLua too early to call.
No to Hector, Camara, Ward, Payne + DJ.
Don't know enough about Chin.2 -
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Fair enough, his versatility and two-footedness did enter my head after posting. But I'd personally rather have competition for places than squad players and don't think that's unreasonable in this league, though some do.NabySarr said:
Question is can we really sign a 5th choice centre back on a backup wage that is better than Thomas? I don’t think so, definitely not one that is equally as good across all 3 positions. We don’t have an unlimited budget so you have to consider that. We can’t have 5 centre backs all on good money, otherwise we won’t be able to strengthen where we need to elsewhereChunes said:Thierry Small - Keep.
Tyreeq Bakinson - Tempting, but we need to sign players who improve us, not squadies. Let go.
Connor Wickham - Great quality, but injury prone: Let go.
Michael Hector - Please god: Let go.
Panutche Camara - Won't get over his injuries: Let go.
Terell Thomas - I like him, but we can sign someone better: Let go.
Lewis Ward - Let go.
Lucas Ness - Has a low ceiling: Let go.
George Dobson - Don't think he should be on the list, he's gone
Jack Payne - Ha
Diallang Jaiyesimi - Hahaha
Richard Chin - Don't think he has the physicality for L1: Let go.
We should aim to bring in a new first choice (Hector will free up some room), then we have REG, new player and Gillesphey starting, with Jones and Thomas backup0 -
Genuinely spent about two minutes thinking “wait, who’s Washington? Does he mean Connor?…oh wait, he means Wickham”!bolloxbolder said:
Washington lolAthletico Charlton said:Keep Small.
Keep Dobbo if you can persuade him but I am certain he is gone.
Keep Bakinson and Thomas if they are very cheap for squad cover but not bothered on either.
Keep Ness if cheap and loan him out, but not bothered if he leaves.
Washington and LuaLua too early to call.
No to Hector, Camara, Ward, Payne + DJ.
Don't know enough about Chin.3 -
Because he not done it at Colchester .. and won’t feature next season for us then if you are planning to be in the championship year after .. Mitchell won’t be anywhere near championship standard .. so let him go now and build his career , have a first refusal and big sell onChris_from_Sidcup said:
Sorry what?RonnieMoore said:Isted Stay
AMB go
Ward go
Jones Stay
Hector go
Thomas Stay
Ness go
Edun Stay
T Watson Stay
Mitchell go
Small Stay
Gillespie Stay
Chin go
Green Stay
Asiimwe Loan
Ramsey Stay
Dobson go
Fraser like him to stay think he would fit into Jones style of play
Payne go
DJ go
Camara return
Taylor Stay
Henry go
McGrandles go
Campbell go
Watson return
Bakinson return ( make offer )
Anderson stay
Coventry stay
Fiorini return
LuaLua ( 50/50 )
May Stay
Leaburn stay
Wickham (50/50)
Ladapo return
Aneke (50/50)
Kanu stay
Casey loan
Why would you get rid of one of our brightest young defenders who only just turned 19 and is under contract until 2025?5 -
Thierry Small, Keep
Tyreeq Bakinson (his Wednesday contract expires this summer), Keep
Connor Wickham,
Michael Hector,
Panutche Camara (his Ipswich contract expires this summer),
Terell Thomas, Keep
Lewis Ward,
Lucas Ness,
George Dobson, Keep
Jack Payne,
Diallang Jaiyesimi,
Richard Chin.
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Thierry Small,
sign him up as fast as possible.
Tyreeq Bakinson (his Wednesday contract expires this summer),
nope
Connor Wickham,
can see a use for him if Leaburn and Chucks are back.
Michael Hector,
nope
Panutche Camara (his Ipswich contract expires this summer),
no - too injury prone and form has dropped.
Terell Thomas,
YES. He is statistically our best defender this season.
Lewis Ward,
who ?
Lucas Ness,
can see him making the cut.
George Dobson,
YES. Don’t let him leave.
Jack Payne,
You must be kidding.
Diallang Jaiyesimi,
What a rick it was to sign him. The chap we turned down for him will be playing in the Bunda next season (seriously).
Richard Chin.No chance.0 -
Thierry Small, - Keep long term deal if possibleTyreeq Bakinson (his Wednesday contract expires this summer), - GoConnor Wickham, - need to see moreMichael Hector, - GoPanutche Camara (his Ipswich contract expires this summer), - GoTerell Thomas, - 50/50 really, solid depthLewis Ward, - GoLucas Ness, - dropped off massively needs a fresh start , GoGeorge Dobson, - Keep if we can.Jack Payne, - GoDiallang Jaiyesimi,- GoRichard Chin. - Go
Also absolutely bizarre to see someone wanting rid of Zach Mitchell. Just because the Cowleys don't like him means absolutely nothing, he's got a very bright future and I'd have him around next season definitely.2 -
Yeah but that somebody is just saying that to get a reaction - like he does in 99% of his posts. He actually thinks Zach Mitchell is the latest landlord of The Queen Vic.MarcusH26 said:Thierry Small, - Keep long term deal if possibleTyreeq Bakinson (his Wednesday contract expires this summer), - GoConnor Wickham, - need to see moreMichael Hector, - GoPanutche Camara (his Ipswich contract expires this summer), - GoTerell Thomas, - 50/50 really, solid depthLewis Ward, - GoLucas Ness, - dropped off massively needs a fresh start , GoGeorge Dobson, - Keep if we can.Jack Payne, - GoDiallang Jaiyesimi,- GoRichard Chin. - Go
Also absolutely bizarre to see someone wanting rid of Zach Mitchell. Just because the Cowleys don't like him means absolutely nothing, he's got a very bright future and I'd have him around next season definitely.0 -
Thierry Small - KEEP (Easy decision, based upon what we have seen so far.)
Tyreeq Bakinson - GO (He's helped at times, but has been pretty average. At best, a cheap backup option, sadly.)
Connor Wickham - GO (Would like to see more, but fitness remains a massive concern. We'll need another physical forward, but probably needs to play more minutes than he could.)
Michael Hector - GO (Expensive for a backup. We can find better, hungrier players cheaper.)
Panutche Camara - GO (We can't keep carrying injury-prone players. Just can't stay fit.)
Terell Thomas - KEEP (Done enough to stay, but concerns remain. Versatile enough to warrant staying, and at least stays fit.)
Lewis Ward - GO (All GK options need revising - 1st choice needs better, 2nd and 3rd can wait).
Lucas Ness - KEEP (Would prefer to keep and give a L2 loan spell. I still hope he could be of value, but would understand letting him go permanently.)
George Dobson - KEEP (He makes a difference, but we need options to play instead of him when we need more creativity. Would be disappointed if we can't keep him.)
Jack Payne - GO (Never really been good enough. A L2 player.)
Diallang Jaiyesimi - GO (Not good enough. A L2 player now too.)
Richard Chin - GO (Don't think he can make the grade.)
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Thierry Small - keep
Tyreeq Bakinson - undecided. If Dobson leaves, and we can permanently move on Fraser and McGrandles, maybe they will be space for him.
Connor Wickham, - probable go unless he can really make an impact in the rest of the season
Michael Hector - undecided
Panutche Camara - probable go unless he can really make an impact in the rest of the season. I imagine his wages will be relatively high also
Terell Thomas - undecided
Lewis Ward - go
Lucas Ness - probable go
George Dobson - up to the player
Jack Payne - go
Diallang Jaiyesimi - go
Richard Chin- go
A lot depends on whether we play 3CBs or 2 next season, as with the former we'll need 5 or 6 options. My gut feeling is that one out of Hector and Thomas will be kept on.
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He's just turned 19 and he's playing in a terrible side. How can you write him off already?RonnieMoore said:
Because he not done it at Colchester .. and won’t feature next season for us then if you are planning to be in the championship year after .. Mitchell won’t be anywhere near championship standard .. so let him go now and build his career , have a first refusal and big sell onChris_from_Sidcup said:
Sorry what?RonnieMoore said:Isted Stay
AMB go
Ward go
Jones Stay
Hector go
Thomas Stay
Ness go
Edun Stay
T Watson Stay
Mitchell go
Small Stay
Gillespie Stay
Chin go
Green Stay
Asiimwe Loan
Ramsey Stay
Dobson go
Fraser like him to stay think he would fit into Jones style of play
Payne go
DJ go
Camara return
Taylor Stay
Henry go
McGrandles go
Campbell go
Watson return
Bakinson return ( make offer )
Anderson stay
Coventry stay
Fiorini return
LuaLua ( 50/50 )
May Stay
Leaburn stay
Wickham (50/50)
Ladapo return
Aneke (50/50)
Kanu stay
Casey loan
Why would you get rid of one of our brightest young defenders who only just turned 19 and is under contract until 2025?
It's like Spurs saying let's release Harry Kane because he didn't do much on loan at Leicester in the championship.
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