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Lyle Taylor - signed for Colchester (p284)

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  • What is it you people do not understand ? Ive literally said i know and accept why people are angry.

    Why are you shouting ? We all understand he was under contract. You're not saying anything new or ground breaking we all understand he was under contract.

    So in the last week of your contract, your current company ask you to do something which you are under contract to do but could jeopardize your move next week to a company that will pay you a life changing amount you would say ok mate ?. If you choose to be insulted pal thats on you.
    Of course I’d do it, if it was my job, otherwise why sign the contract in the first place. 

    I had to shout as you said “ We are talking about a footballer who refused to play because the season have extended beyond its normal course” which simply isn’t true. 
  • Of course I’d do it, if it was my job, otherwise why sign the contract in the first place. 

    I had to shout as you said “ We are talking about a footballer who refused to play because the season have extended beyond its normal course” which simply isn’t true. 
    Are you so dense light bends around you ? Does our season normally involve a handful of games in late June ? I accept your apology. 
  • Are you so dense light bends around you ? Does our season normally involve a handful of games in late June ? I accept your apology. 
    Was he still under contract? Did he break his contract? If yes is the answer to both he’s a scumbag. Zero understanding of such behaviour from me 
  • Couple of things to add to the mix, although I think Taylor personally has behaved badly.
    First, wasn’t all that end of season shenanigans also coloured by the pandemic and to an extent there was choice for players to play?
    And secondly there remains in my mind the memory that for us, whenever Taylor was on the pitch he was good, gave everything, and often finished games as our strongest player, this is the upsetting bit. If he had been a Kirk-like player things would look different.
  • edited April 2024
    Was he still under contract? Did he break his contract? If yes is the answer to both he’s a scumbag. Zero understanding of such behaviour from me 
    Great answers to questions I'm not asking or points i haven't made. Try again.
  • Are you so dense light bends around you ? Does our season normally involve a handful of games in late June ? I accept your apology. 
    Our season nornally involves 46 games.
  • Our season nornally involves 46 games.
    Cheers Geoff, not the point I was making though.
  • I 'understand' what he did in the same way I understand why someone would nick your car.

    Yeah I get they want more money but it's morally wrong.
  • Wouldn't disagree with much of this re personality. That's what a lot of our fans focus on, my point has always been about his abilities/qualities as a striker, especially when we bought Lapado. Neither has been a  success, LT scoring 3 makes him slightly better imo. Also there's still a game to go, although Monk will be very brave to play him with the level of hostility in the crowd.

    What qualities as a striker? His capabilities are long gone and that's been clear for a while. Ladapo has been a failure. Lyle has been a failure. One failing slightly worse than the other doesn't change the fact that they're both failures and both would have been bad signings. Ladapo fortunately was only a loan so he'll go at the end of the season. Taylor was brought in to score the goals to keep Cambridge up and he's failed his brief. Cambridge could still go down on the last day and Lyle hasn't scored since February. In fact, Ladapo scored more recently than he did. Taylor, as everyone else always said recognising that he was a 34 year old off the back of a year without playing followed by a run of 7 sad goalless games for Wycombe, would have been a rubbish signing for us. Given how quickly he's pissed of Cambridge fans he probably would have caused more harm than good in terms of morale at Charlton.
  • I 'understand' what he did in the same way I understand why someone would nick your car.

    Yeah I get they want more money but it's morally wrong.
    Yeah those are two completely comparable scenarios, thanks mate you have changed my mind. By Taylor doing something morally wrong he has taken money out of someone's pocket illegally.
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  • One of his major strengths was his workrate and athleticism, pressing and stretching defenders. I was really surprised he was so ineffective at Wycombe, suggesting that either physically he can't do the running and harrying anymore OR he's lost the motivation.

    I suspect the latter, as it's not as if he's had any major injuries.
  • Was he still under contract? Did he break his contract? If yes is the answer to both he’s a scumbag. Zero understanding of such behaviour from me 
    3 games, 7 points. If he had extended his contract like Sarr did, I think we probably will have stayed up. Not sure that's the case if he just honoured his contract. 

    Nonetheless, like you say he broke his contract by refusing to play those three games and there's never been an adequate defence for that, either for him or Solly. 
  • This may upset people as well but just also going to through out that Taylor weren't really that good for us in Championship for us. He scored  11 in 22 which sounds great (he had been injured a lot that season which may have been on his mind when he made his decision) but 4 of those were penalties. I'd argue losing Gallagher was more of a kick to our chances of survival.
  • What qualities as a striker? His capabilities are long gone and that's been clear for a while. Ladapo has been a failure. Lyle has been a failure. One failing slightly worse than the other doesn't change the fact that they're both failures and both would have been bad signings. Ladapo fortunately was only a loan so he'll go at the end of the season. Taylor was brought in to score the goals to keep Cambridge up and he's failed his brief. Cambridge could still go down on the last day and Lyle hasn't scored since February. In fact, Ladapo scored more recently than he did. Taylor, as everyone else always said recognising that he was a 34 year old off the back of a year without playing followed by a run of 7 sad goalless games for Wycombe, would have been a rubbish signing for us. Given how quickly he's pissed of Cambridge fans he probably would have caused more harm than good in terms of morale at Charlton.
    I know I'm one of a very few but was talking with my brother last summer and said if I knew we were getting the Taylor from the two years he was here, I'd have him. I know that's a bit disgusting but I saw the need for that type of striker. Given the failure of Tedic and Ladapo plus the injuries to Aneke and Leaburn, I think I just about feel the same. Agree with what you've said though, he wasn't and isn't that player anymore so would have been a bad move (which I did actually think at the time anyway). 
  • Completely disagree. Sure he wasn't as prolific as before, but we didn't need him to be as we weren't fighting for promotion. But it was his general play too which helped others alongside him. Bonne and Leko for example looked a lot better next to him than they did without. 
    No i get your point but the idea that he was some kind of guaranteed means to survival is what i disagree with.
  • SE Dons will be happy to take him.
  • 3 games, 7 points. If he had extended his contract like Sarr did, I think we probably will have stayed up. Not sure that's the case if he just honoured his contract. 

    Nonetheless, like you say he broke his contract by refusing to play those three games and there's never been an adequate defence for that, either for him or Solly. 
    For me Solly was just as bad, it’s just despicable behaviour, if you’re so concerned by injury, retire and forego your substantial salary.

    Odd neither wanted to take that option. 
  • No i get your point but the idea that he was some kind of guaranteed means to survival is what i disagree with.
    Not guaranteed 100% but it's hard to believe we wouldn't have got one extra point when failing to win any of those last 7 fixtures. 
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  • edited April 2024
    Yeah those are two completely comparable scenarios, thanks mate you have changed my mind. By Taylor doing something morally wrong he has taken money out of someone's pocket illegally.
    Didn't say they were exactly the same, though, did I?

    People saying they 'understand' why he did what he did is (in my opinion) missing the point a bit - I'm saying you can 'understand' why someone does something and still think it was the wrong thing to do.
  • Sent off for a proper off the ball forearm to the back of Jack Iredale's head. Totally unnecessary, he's still an absolute prick I see.
    Needs a long ban for that. About 11 games should do it
    Took a quick gander at posts on this thread around 27th Feb 2024 & chose this one by GM ...

    Call me a conspiracy theorist, but could this truthful, honest comment on The Snake have prompted a certain poster to join the Forum & make his own controversial  views on the subject ?

    The last straw for a certain ex "favourite" maybe ? 

    Would the real Lyle Taylor please own up. 
  • Didn't say they were exactly the same, though, did I?

    People saying they 'understand' why he did what he did is (in my opinion) missing the point a bit - I'm saying you can 'understand' why someone does something and still think it was the wrong thing to do.
    Well then we agree then.
  • Took a quick gander at posts on this thread around 27th Feb 2024 & chose this one by GM ...

    Call me a conspiracy theorist, but could this truthful, honest comment on The Snake have prompted a certain poster to join the Forum & make his own controversial  views on the subject ?

    The last straw for a certain ex "favourite" maybe ? 

    Would the real Lyle Taylor please own up. 
    Not sure anyone has said anything controversial pal.
  • Wouldn't disagree with much of this re personality. That's what a lot of our fans focus on, my point has always been about his abilities/qualities as a striker, especially when we bought Lapado. Neither has been a  success, LT scoring 3 makes him slightly better imo. Also there's still a game to go, although Monk will be very brave to play him with the level of hostility in the crowd.





    Lyle Taylor has also been sent off and gave away a penalty costing Cambridge 2 points.
  • Here's where I stand on it. He made a decision in his own interest above that of the club. It was easy to understand because he explained it at the time. Taking the club interest as being paramount though, few think it was the right thing to do. Many assume it cost us our championship status. That will forever be debatable as being the sole reason, but few would argue it wasn't a contributory factor. Lastly, using social media to get back at his detractors only serves to invite more of the same.
  • Took a quick gander at posts on this thread around 27th Feb 2024 & chose this one by GM ...

    Call me a conspiracy theorist, but could this truthful, honest comment on The Snake have prompted a certain poster to join the Forum & make his own controversial  views on the subject ?

    The last straw for a certain ex "favourite" maybe ? 

    Would the real Lyle Taylor please own up. 
    Funny that a certain someone signed up on that date & has suddenly gone profile private. Has it posted on any other thread I wonder ?
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