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guinnessaddick said:Dave Rudd said:guinnessaddick said:Swindon_Addick said:Off_it said:Have just been reading up on the bomb damage to the Greenwich and Charlton area during WW2.
Does anyone have a picture of Charlton station before it got hit by a German V1 and totally destroyed? Have found some pictures online of the post-blast damage, but not what it looked like before that.
(I'd always wondered as a kid why the Charlton station building seemed more "modern" than other stations)
https://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/EPW040932
The main J&P site in Victoria Way (not 'Victory Way' @guinnessaddick) was very definitely on the right hand side going UP the hill.
Certainly Delta occupied the left hand side as you go up the hill.
I used to be woken up for school by the 7am 'call to work' bell of J&P in the 1950's.
I've posted a picture below of the end of Delta Cables in 1987.0 -
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Johnson and Phillips main entrance and works where on the right hand side of the road walking up the hill from the Woolwich Road.My father worked there during the war and left in the early 1970,s In fact he was born and raised up almost opposite the main entrance in Victoria Way..
I have many photos of work events and meetings mainly from the 1950s at home.3 -
Was it on the left, was it on the right?
https://www.layersoflondon.org/map/records/victoria-way
Johnson and Phillips. Victoria Works. In 1875, the Walter Johnson and Samuel Phillips set up business in a small building called Victoria Works on the west side of the road and north of the railway line. They also took on a City office as ‘Telegraph and Electric Engineers’. They began making telegraph cable but expanded into other related products. In 1877 they opened a large workshop to make electric wire and cable. Sixty years the works later had expanded into a large public concern employing hundreds of workers. In 1906 land was bought from the railway to expand the works. At the end of the Great War houses in Fossdene and Inverine Roads were bought and demolished to expand the factoory. By 1930 both partners had died but the firm continued to expand. Much of the works was demolished following a V2 rocket attack in 1945 however a lot of work had been done for PLUTO. After the war they made new breakthroughs in electric cable manufacture and sheathing. A tall circular tower built in 1966 could be seen throughout the area and housed extruded aluminium alloy tubing in a continual coil demolished. They were taken over by Delta & Enfield Ltd. in 1964. Most signs of Johnson & Phillips now gone but much of the equipment they manufactured is still extant in electrical installations here and abroad. Most of the site was cleared in the late 1960s and much of it subsequently developed with warehousing.
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In 1875, the Walter Johnson and Samuel Phillips set up business in a small building called Victoria Works on the west side of the road and north of the railway line.
How difficult is it?
Victoria Way runs North to South roughly. As you walk up from Woolwich Road, the West side is the right hand side. And the North side of the railway is the bit before you reach the bridge.
I rest my case.
Oh! And by the way, from 1964 is was Delta Enfield Cables.
@Lewis Coaches ... who was your Dad? i might have know him ... or his kids more likely (eg you).0 -
Dave Rudd said:3
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Dave Rudd said:
…Oh! And by the way, from 1964 is was Delta Enfield Cables…0 -
My Dad worked in the offices there through the 50's until Delta took over in the mid 60's. He played goalkeeper for the works team and although he is no longer with us , I have all his winners medals from his football exploits
He organised many works outings to Margate and in the later years organised a works coach to the FA Cup at Coventry and to Aston Villa. ( We never broke down) !!
Ironically after the company closed down , it was always a family joke, wherever in the UK we went on holiday he would always bump into someone from "Johnsons" happy days4 -
Heading off for a beano to Margate in the 80’s from Delta. Me in the Pringle jumper.12
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Henry Irving said:Article on the V1 attack on Charlton station from MOD magazine1
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I know some of those factory units on the right of Victoria Way were used as customs bonded warehouses in the 90's, a friend of mine worked on the forklifts there.0
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What an excellent read - many thanks0
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Red Robin said:My Dad worked in the offices there through the 50's until Delta took over in the mid 60's. He played goalkeeper for the works team and although he is no longer with us , I have all his winners medals from his football exploits
He organised many works outings to Margate and in the later years organised a works coach to the FA Cup at Coventry and to Aston Villa. ( We never broke down) !!
Ironically after the company closed down , it was always a family joke, wherever in the UK we went on holiday he would always bump into someone from "Johnsons" happy days1 -
Dave Rudd said:guinnessaddick said:Dave Rudd said:guinnessaddick said:Swindon_Addick said:Off_it said:Have just been reading up on the bomb damage to the Greenwich and Charlton area during WW2.
Does anyone have a picture of Charlton station before it got hit by a German V1 and totally destroyed? Have found some pictures online of the post-blast damage, but not what it looked like before that.
(I'd always wondered as a kid why the Charlton station building seemed more "modern" than other stations)
https://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/en/image/EPW040932
The main J&P site in Victoria Way (not 'Victory Way' @guinnessaddick) was very definitely on the right hand side going UP the hill.
Certainly Delta occupied the left hand side as you go up the hill.
I used to be woken up for school by the 7am 'call to work' bell of J&P in the 1950's.
I've posted a picture below of the end of Delta Cables in 1987.0 -
guinnessaddick said:Heading off for a beano to Margate in the 80’s from Delta. Me in the Pringle jumper.0
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Alicanteaddicks said:guinnessaddick said:Heading off for a beano to Margate in the 80’s from Delta. Me in the Pringle jumper.0
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guinnessaddick said:Alicanteaddicks said:guinnessaddick said:Heading off for a beano to Margate in the 80’s from Delta. Me in the Pringle jumper.0
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Alicanteaddicks said:guinnessaddick said:Alicanteaddicks said:guinnessaddick said:Heading off for a beano to Margate in the 80’s from Delta. Me in the Pringle jumper.0
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guinnessaddick said:Alicanteaddicks said:guinnessaddick said:Heading off for a beano to Margate in the 80’s from Delta. Me in the Pringle jumper.0
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DOUCHER said:guinnessaddick said:Alicanteaddicks said:guinnessaddick said:Heading off for a beano to Margate in the 80’s from Delta. Me in the Pringle jumper.0
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Never seen this one before - the East Terrace whilst it was still part chalk cliff - taken from Facebook.
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SporadicAddick said:Never seen this one before - the East Terrace whilst it was still part chalk cliff - taken from Facebook.Possibly the most iconic photo of The Valley I have ever seen.
Brilliant……thanks for coming up with that Sporadic.👏3 -
Doesn’t look right to me, if we are saying the foreground terrace is the east stand then we are looking at the covered end goal and the terracing behind it is far too high.
or are we saying the photo is taken from the west stand looking towards the south stand???6 -
Bournesnr said:Doesn’t look right to me, if we are saying the foreground terrace is the east stand then we are looking at the covered end goal and the terracing behind it is far too high.
or are we saying the photo is taken from the west stand looking towards the south stand???14 -
Here's a different picture taken from what would become the Covered End. Easy to see where / how the other picture was taken, as the old chalk cliff angles away from the pitch behind the scoreboard.
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SporadicAddick said:Never seen this one before - the East Terrace whilst it was still part chalk cliff - taken from Facebook.1
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I just thought the skyline behind the goal didn’t look right but then I didn’t start going until the early 60’s and the photo obviously pre dates that so a lot could have changed.0
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SporadicAddick said:Here's a different picture taken from what would become the Covered End. Easy to see where / how the other picture was taken, as the old chalk cliff angles away from the pitch behind the scoreboard.2
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Does anyone have any idea when the East Terrace as we remember it was begun and extended? I seem to remember my grandfather saying he watched Charlton when it was grass. I’m not sure the second photo shows a stone terrace, possibly a grassy bank instead.0
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I think it was fully concreted in the mid 1930’s, there’s a photo somewhere of builders working on it with Sam Bartram helping out pushing a wheelbarrow. The covered end roof went on about the same time.1