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This is exactly how I feel. Sure, Wrexham have had a couple of good seasons, but in footballing terms they are far from a big club, arguably a lot smaller than Charlton. I find the cult of personality (particularly for personalities that I've barely heard of and wouldn't recognise if I fell over them in the street) utterly bemusing.Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:I honestly feel that I have become totally out of touch.
I am completely bemused by the size of the attendance today.
I am aware that Wrexham were taken over by rich Americans and now I understand that they are young (ish?) film stars. Is that right?
What a bizarre choice of football club. I remember when their home crowds were barely scraping 5k.
It all felt a bit surreal to me, or even unreal.
It's not like they were all Wrexham fans, who the fcuk else was drawn into this fake mystique?
A weird anomaly, and now the circus has left town and we can go back to our fake 13k, real <10k attendances15 -
Watch the documentary. It gets right into the core of why football matters - to individuals and communities. Much of it is as much about Charlton/other clubs as it is Wrexham. I'd be surprised if anybody who has watched the whole thing were cynical about the Wrexham owners.Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:I honestly feel that I have become totally out of touch.
I am completely bemused by the size of the attendance today.
I am aware that Wrexham were taken over by rich Americans and now I understand that they are young (ish?) film stars. Is that right?
What a bizarre choice of football club. I remember when their home crowds were barely scraping 5k.
It all felt a bit surreal to me, or even unreal.
It's not like they were all Wrexham fans, who the fcuk else was drawn into this fake mystique?
A weird anomaly, and now the circus has left town and we can go back to our fake 13k, real <10k attendances
Were they there yesterday, btw?
Were our owners?5 -
Apologies. I mistakenly believed a windfall to be a sum of money received unexpectedly, and as the Club planned to take full advantage of this L1 fixture financially, making money was expected.Airman Brown said:
Fall out with Richard Murray? News to me and probably RM too. Last time I saw him we had a good chat.raytreacy69 said:
ABAAirman Brown said:
Idiot.raytreacy69 said:yup Typical negative response from
you AB
When it comes to Legendary Charlton fans you are right up there with the Best of them and for all your work in getting back to the Valley i and many others will Always remember you for that
But I’m sorry but IMO since your fall out with Richard Murray… You have always had an axe to grind with the vast majority of your comments always against the club - some of which are absolutely right
However I struggle to find anything positive you can say about the club in recent times and you are better than that
I have struggled to see anything good in any recent set-up at The Valley because it has largely been a pile of shit.What I see is people who care about the club being mugged off - by Jimenez, Duchatelet, Southall, Sandgaard and now Methven - and I’m angry about that because the club matters to me.
i understand the temptation to focus on chinks of light and see them as evidence of progress and renewal. For me there have been good moments on the pitch but that is all.It’s a basic safety requirement to have working turnstiles and the number is specified within the regulations. If the club can’t be bothered with it I’d say that supports my view of who is running it, but my only point was that it is unsafe and should be fixed.
On the other hand, I would question why it is necessary to call out a proper use of the word windfall and an observation about the turnstiles as an attack on the club.1 -
I think the crowd size was a combo of a number factors:
- We’ve no natural rival / big game this season
- The Birmingham game didn’t attract our now infrequent / former regular fans after some bad results and I think a few regretted that
- The Disney+ programme attracting wider interest and something to market off
- Only Brentford’s limited capacity being the only other London Saturday game, a huge amount of weekend London visitors to Sunday’s Arsenal, Palace, West Ham and Chelsea games needed a Saturday game to fill
- Some very effective marketing from the club. Donating a lot of Red, White and Black community tickets out early, and then getting the early message out that tickets were going fast created a huge amount of momentum to both infrequent former fans and further awareness of the fixture to non-fans
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Marketing wise it was a perfect storm. Real shame we couldn’t have put in the Birmingham performance for this one as that definitely would have them coming back. The late equaliser to those still there may rescue it a bit, but it really wasn’t the performance we needed and there is no point now pushing on these new database people to become regulars until the team and football improves imo
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If the people working in the food/drink outlets weren’t so useless, you wouldn’t have to leave 10 mins before half time to get a beer ! There were still queues for food/drink 15 mins into second half. The demand is there (like it or not), they just need to organise themselves and make more money AND mean people can get what they want within the half time period.golfaddick said:I do think fans have changed since the Premiership years.
20 years ago we'd get 25k most weeks but I certainly dont remember so many people leaving their seats 10 mins before half time & not returning until the 55th minute (as happened A LOT today in the AC stand). Yes people left at HT to get a drink or go to the loo but I still had streams of people up & down the stairs with chips & bottles of coke 10 mins into the 2nd half.1 -
There were quite a lot of Americans in the crowd yesterday, went over to the Fan Zone and had to wait for the Wrexham coach to get in and while waiting I could hear a couple of them behind me talking to each other asking if there wasn’t a special entrance anywhere? Like as if there should have been some sort of car park underneath the ground like you get in American stadiums. They also wanted to find the main entrance if there was a stadium map anywhere.
A few more joined right behind us in the Chicken George queue and then a couple more were actually sitting right next to me during the game. To be fair they actually got behind Charlton all game. I’d say the Disney+ effect was probably the biggest pull of the crowd by quite a distance, I’m sure the marketing the club did help the crowd numbers but reckon if they’d treated it like any other game it would have still been a fairly similar crowd. Still fair play to the club.
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Don’t believe Hollywood stars were there but Friedman and Brener were due to be - perhaps someone nearer directors’ box could confirm? Be great if they saw The Valley so full.Siv_in_Norfolk said:
Watch the documentary. It gets right into the core of why football matters - to individuals and communities. Much of it is as much about Charlton/other clubs as it is Wrexham. I'd be surprised if anybody who has watched the whole thing were cynical about the Wrexham owners.Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:I honestly feel that I have become totally out of touch.
I am completely bemused by the size of the attendance today.
I am aware that Wrexham were taken over by rich Americans and now I understand that they are young (ish?) film stars. Is that right?
What a bizarre choice of football club. I remember when their home crowds were barely scraping 5k.
It all felt a bit surreal to me, or even unreal.
It's not like they were all Wrexham fans, who the fcuk else was drawn into this fake mystique?
A weird anomaly, and now the circus has left town and we can go back to our fake 13k, real <10k attendances
Were they there yesterday, btw?
Were our owners?2 -
Joshua Friedman was certainly there, saw him being greeted by Rodwell before the match at the West Stand entrance.4
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Friedman was there, loved the crowds, atmosphere etc and had the biggest smile on his face when that penalty went in.15
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I wasn’t at the game but I’m looking forward to seeing all of the action on the next series of Welcome to Wrexham. Thanks to Wrexham for giving us one of the biggest and best days in our club’s history ❤️4
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Thanking his lucky stars no doubt.Curbsgoldenera said:Friedman was there, loved the crowds, atmosphere etc and had the biggest smile on his face when that penalty went in.1 -
Was it the 12th man yesterday? That didnt come across on the stream, whereas second half against Brum was suitably hostile.Mendonca In Asdas said:I loved having a packed Valley, it was a blast from the past of how things used to be, man do I long for those days to come back, when opposing teams hated coming to the valley, and the north stand really were the 12th man.0 -
I was in the safe standing bit of N block and you can't hear what's going on up the other end so there was often two songs being sung at the same time. The atmosphere was very muted at times.PragueAddick said:
Was it the 12th man yesterday? That didnt come across on the stream, whereas second half against Brum was suitably hostile.Mendonca In Asdas said:I loved having a packed Valley, it was a blast from the past of how things used to be, man do I long for those days to come back, when opposing teams hated coming to the valley, and the north stand really were the 12th man.2 -
As someone who spent three years working on bringing in fans to Charlton in L1 I’d generally agree with that, but with two caveats.CAFCTrev said:
Unfortunately there's a ceiling to the level of attendance we can attract in league one. The wrexham game is an anomaly, much like the cup games where we happened to draw a big club and therefore can attract a big crowd in isolation as others have alluded to.shirty5 said:
With all due respect Nick, if the club think the way you are saying then that is rather disappointing and will show today was a short term solution to gaining some extra revenue invalleynick66 said:
I meant realistically the next opportunity to market in this way will be a cup game.shirty5 said:
Why Nick? What worked today should get more people into the Valley if those marketing techniques are used again. Otherwise those individuals need to explain whyvalleynick66 said:
Realistically we will only see similar if we draw a Prem team in the cup.shirty5 said:
Well done to all involved this afternoon Ray.raytreacy69 said:Some of you just can’t wait to criticise the club
FFS this is the 3rd tier of English footi and a crowd of over 22k Charlton fans
Why not celebrate that fact and the commercial success it was for the club
Oh no - let’s have another popNow let’s look forward to the same marketing campaign which got the crowds in today for the rest of the season
Should be onto a winner even fits a small gain in the average attendance after and including todayBut of course that means winning a couple of games first…🙁No other fixtures in L1 give us that same opportunity.
I used this example before, but just look at our 2018/19 season. We won our last 6 home games in a row on the way to promotion and were playing some great stuff, yet we could not get more than 13k in the ground. Playing great football and consistently winning games is pretty much the ideal scenario for us to get more people to attend, but it didn't.
You can come up with pie in the sky promotions that would boost the crowd for one off occasions like football for a fiver, but those extra 'fans' never come back in large enough numbers for it to be impactful across the entire season. We are hamstrung by the league we are playing in, its like starting from square minus 1.
The reality is the people who could potentially attend a game at the Valley simply aren't interested in third tier football.Firstly, retention matters as much as recruitment - that was particularly true 2009-12 coming down from a higher level but it is still true facing a sixth consecutive season in L1. Our crowds are historically decent for Charlton in L1 (although times change so like for like isn’t necessarily revealing). Valley Express, for example, is very much about that in L1, which is why the club has been unable to scrap it. It was sold out yesterday but I’m not aware the club added any coaches, which would certainly have been justified.
Secondly, although you won’t make significant gains you can still make some and lay the groundwork for people to come back at the higher level in the future.Getting people over the threshold once, even if they spend nothing, is an investment with very low cost.I’m not sure the matchday performance matters much; it’s more about giving people - especially children - the experience of live football. We were never expecting Football for a Fiver to be “impactful across an entire season”, we were looking to make incremental gains in different ways over time.16 -
No, the doubling of the attendance didn’t result in a commensurate increase in the atmosphere. I wouldn’t actually say it was much better than a regular Saturday home match.PragueAddick said:
Was it the 12th man yesterday? That didnt come across on the stream, whereas second half against Brum was suitably hostile.Mendonca In Asdas said:I loved having a packed Valley, it was a blast from the past of how things used to be, man do I long for those days to come back, when opposing teams hated coming to the valley, and the north stand really were the 12th man.1 -
No not yesterday, but in days past.PragueAddick said:
Was it the 12th man yesterday? That didnt come across on the stream, whereas second half against Brum was suitably hostile.Mendonca In Asdas said:I loved having a packed Valley, it was a blast from the past of how things used to be, man do I long for those days to come back, when opposing teams hated coming to the valley, and the north stand really were the 12th man.0 -
I have little faith the club have correctly identified the claimed (4000?) first timers.shirty5 said:
I enjoyed this afternoon with seeing a packed Valley , did you Fen from your seat?fenaddick said:
What worked today was capitalising on the Wrexham factor which they did well. You want those people coming back but the fans will never know if it worked or notshirty5 said:
Why Nick? What worked today should get more people into the Valley if those marketing techniques are used again. Otherwise those individuals need to explain whyvalleynick66 said:
Realistically we will only see similar if we draw a Prem team in the cup.shirty5 said:
Well done to all involved this afternoon Ray.raytreacy69 said:Some of you just can’t wait to criticise the club
FFS this is the 3rd tier of English footi and a crowd of over 22k Charlton fans
Why not celebrate that fact and the commercial success it was for the club
Oh no - let’s have another popNow let’s look forward to the same marketing campaign which got the crowds in today for the rest of the season
Should be onto a winner even fits a small gain in the average attendance after and including todayBut of course that means winning a couple of games first…🙁
I don’t expect a similar gate for the next 5 home games between now and the end of the year, but Methven and his employees can’t let this opportunity this afternoon go to waste and need to get hold of those first timers this afternoon from Monday morning to get them back once again
My other half got our tickets and she received an email welcoming her as a first time visitor to the valley with advice on transport links etc despite living 2-3 miles away, using her con number she’s had for over 20 years to book, being a lapsed season ticket holder and been going since the Selhurst days.2 -
I had a'couple of Amrrican's sitting behind me (AC stand) and could tell by their comments this was their first time watching us.MartinCAFC said:There were quite a lot of Americans in the crowd yesterday, went over to the Fan Zone and had to wait for the Wrexham coach to get in and while waiting I could hear a couple of them behind me talking to each other asking if there wasn’t a special entrance anywhere? Like as if there should have been some sort of car park underneath the ground like you get in American stadiums. They also wanted to find the main entrance if there was a stadium map anywhere.
A few more joined right behind us in the Chicken George queue and then a couple more were actually sitting right next to me during the game. To be fair they actually got behind Charlton all game. I’d say the Disney+ effect was probably the biggest pull of the crowd by quite a distance, I’m sure the marketing the club did help the crowd numbers but reckon if they’d treated it like any other game it would have still been a fairly similar crowd. Still fair play to the club.
Very knowledgeable as they picked up within the first 20 mins that TC was our danger player and that he should be given the ball at every opportunity.
They also commented the difference in the midfields - how Wrexham attacked with power & purpose and ours just go sideways.6 - Sponsored links:
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Did they mention the lock on the toilet door?golfaddick said:
I had a'couple of Amrrican's sitting behind me (AC stand) and could tell by their comments this was their first time watching us.MartinCAFC said:There were quite a lot of Americans in the crowd yesterday, went over to the Fan Zone and had to wait for the Wrexham coach to get in and while waiting I could hear a couple of them behind me talking to each other asking if there wasn’t a special entrance anywhere? Like as if there should have been some sort of car park underneath the ground like you get in American stadiums. They also wanted to find the main entrance if there was a stadium map anywhere.
A few more joined right behind us in the Chicken George queue and then a couple more were actually sitting right next to me during the game. To be fair they actually got behind Charlton all game. I’d say the Disney+ effect was probably the biggest pull of the crowd by quite a distance, I’m sure the marketing the club did help the crowd numbers but reckon if they’d treated it like any other game it would have still been a fairly similar crowd. Still fair play to the club.
Very knowledgeable as they picked up within the first 20 mins that TC was our danger player and that he should be given the ball at every opportunity.
They also commented the difference in the midfields - how Wrexham attacked with power & purpose and ours just go sideways.16 -
The Covered End was noticeably louder even at 2.45 when I came through the turnstiles (Sam Bartram entrance). Not much singing anywhere else though.PragueAddick said:
Was it the 12th man yesterday? That didnt come across on the stream, whereas second half against Brum was suitably hostile.Mendonca In Asdas said:I loved having a packed Valley, it was a blast from the past of how things used to be, man do I long for those days to come back, when opposing teams hated coming to the valley, and the north stand really were the 12th man.0 -
That's because the other stands didn't see you come ingolfaddick said:
The Covered End was noticeably louder even at 2.45 when I came through the turnstiles (Sam Bartram entrance). Not much singing anywhere else though.PragueAddick said:
Was it the 12th man yesterday? That didnt come across on the stream, whereas second half against Brum was suitably hostile.Mendonca In Asdas said:I loved having a packed Valley, it was a blast from the past of how things used to be, man do I long for those days to come back, when opposing teams hated coming to the valley, and the north stand really were the 12th man.16 -
I largely agree, but regarding the quality of the football, I do think it has an impact to a significant degree. It's anecdotal but you see posts on here with fans who have to make more of an effort to get to the Valley due to distance, but arent interested in coming to Cheltenham at home on a winter Tuesday night. Would that be different if it was Norwich or West Brom on the same Tuesday but in the league above?Airman Brown said:
As someone who spent three years working on bringing in fans to Charlton in L1 I’d generally agree with that, but with two caveats.CAFCTrev said:
Unfortunately there's a ceiling to the level of attendance we can attract in league one. The wrexham game is an anomaly, much like the cup games where we happened to draw a big club and therefore can attract a big crowd in isolation as others have alluded to.shirty5 said:
With all due respect Nick, if the club think the way you are saying then that is rather disappointing and will show today was a short term solution to gaining some extra revenue invalleynick66 said:
I meant realistically the next opportunity to market in this way will be a cup game.shirty5 said:
Why Nick? What worked today should get more people into the Valley if those marketing techniques are used again. Otherwise those individuals need to explain whyvalleynick66 said:
Realistically we will only see similar if we draw a Prem team in the cup.shirty5 said:
Well done to all involved this afternoon Ray.raytreacy69 said:Some of you just can’t wait to criticise the club
FFS this is the 3rd tier of English footi and a crowd of over 22k Charlton fans
Why not celebrate that fact and the commercial success it was for the club
Oh no - let’s have another popNow let’s look forward to the same marketing campaign which got the crowds in today for the rest of the season
Should be onto a winner even fits a small gain in the average attendance after and including todayBut of course that means winning a couple of games first…🙁No other fixtures in L1 give us that same opportunity.
I used this example before, but just look at our 2018/19 season. We won our last 6 home games in a row on the way to promotion and were playing some great stuff, yet we could not get more than 13k in the ground. Playing great football and consistently winning games is pretty much the ideal scenario for us to get more people to attend, but it didn't.
You can come up with pie in the sky promotions that would boost the crowd for one off occasions like football for a fiver, but those extra 'fans' never come back in large enough numbers for it to be impactful across the entire season. We are hamstrung by the league we are playing in, its like starting from square minus 1.
The reality is the people who could potentially attend a game at the Valley simply aren't interested in third tier football.Firstly, retention matters as much as recruitment - that was particularly true 2009-12 coming down from a higher level but it is still true facing a sixth consecutive season in L1. Our crowds are historically decent for Charlton in L1 (although times change so like for like isn’t necessarily revealing). Valley Express, for example, is very much about that in L1, which is why the club has been unable to scrap it. It was sold out yesterday but I’m not aware the club added any coaches, which would certainly have been justified.
Secondly, although you won’t make significant gains you can still make some and lay the groundwork for people to come back at the higher level in the future.Getting people over the threshold once, even if they spend nothing, is an investment with very low cost.I’m not sure the matchday performance matters much; it’s more about giving people - especially children - the experience of live football. We were never expecting Football for a Fiver to be “impactful across an entire season”, we were looking to make incremental gains in different ways over time.
It also reflects in the local area, it's why I see a ton of Arsenal/Man U/Chelsea shirts around Woolwich. Im sure these people are aware that there is a football team on their doorstep, but L1 doesn't really register with them.2 -
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I have little faith the club have correctly identified the claimed (4000?) first timers.shirty5 said:
I enjoyed this afternoon with seeing a packed Valley , did you Fen from your seat?fenaddick said:
What worked today was capitalising on the Wrexham factor which they did well. You want those people coming back but the fans will never know if it worked or notshirty5 said:
Why Nick? What worked today should get more people into the Valley if those marketing techniques are used again. Otherwise those individuals need to explain whyvalleynick66 said:
Realistically we will only see similar if we draw a Prem team in the cup.shirty5 said:
Well done to all involved this afternoon Ray.raytreacy69 said:Some of you just can’t wait to criticise the club
FFS this is the 3rd tier of English footi and a crowd of over 22k Charlton fans
Why not celebrate that fact and the commercial success it was for the club
Oh no - let’s have another popNow let’s look forward to the same marketing campaign which got the crowds in today for the rest of the season
Should be onto a winner even fits a small gain in the average attendance after and including todayBut of course that means winning a couple of games first…🙁
I don’t expect a similar gate for the next 5 home games between now and the end of the year, but Methven and his employees can’t let this opportunity this afternoon go to waste and need to get hold of those first timers this afternoon from Monday morning to get them back once again
My other half got our tickets and she received an email welcoming her as a first time visitor to the valley with advice on transport links etc despite living 2-3 miles away, using her con number she’s had for over 20 years to book, being a lapsed season ticket holder and been going since the Selhurst days.
4000 first timers and 1000 from abroad was out an out bull****.
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Prolly including the 2.5k Wrexham fans in those numbersElfsborgAddick said:paulbaconsarnie said:
I have little faith the club have correctly identified the claimed (4000?) first timers.shirty5 said:
I enjoyed this afternoon with seeing a packed Valley , did you Fen from your seat?fenaddick said:
What worked today was capitalising on the Wrexham factor which they did well. You want those people coming back but the fans will never know if it worked or notshirty5 said:
Why Nick? What worked today should get more people into the Valley if those marketing techniques are used again. Otherwise those individuals need to explain whyvalleynick66 said:
Realistically we will only see similar if we draw a Prem team in the cup.shirty5 said:
Well done to all involved this afternoon Ray.raytreacy69 said:Some of you just can’t wait to criticise the club
FFS this is the 3rd tier of English footi and a crowd of over 22k Charlton fans
Why not celebrate that fact and the commercial success it was for the club
Oh no - let’s have another popNow let’s look forward to the same marketing campaign which got the crowds in today for the rest of the season
Should be onto a winner even fits a small gain in the average attendance after and including todayBut of course that means winning a couple of games first…🙁
I don’t expect a similar gate for the next 5 home games between now and the end of the year, but Methven and his employees can’t let this opportunity this afternoon go to waste and need to get hold of those first timers this afternoon from Monday morning to get them back once again
My other half got our tickets and she received an email welcoming her as a first time visitor to the valley with advice on transport links etc despite living 2-3 miles away, using her con number she’s had for over 20 years to book, being a lapsed season ticket holder and been going since the Selhurst days.
4000 first timers and 1000 from abroad was out an out bull****.0 -
Having been there yesterday and every home game this season I wouldn’t dispute that figure of 4k making their first trip to the ground.ElfsborgAddick said:paulbaconsarnie said:
I have little faith the club have correctly identified the claimed (4000?) first timers.shirty5 said:
I enjoyed this afternoon with seeing a packed Valley , did you Fen from your seat?fenaddick said:
What worked today was capitalising on the Wrexham factor which they did well. You want those people coming back but the fans will never know if it worked or notshirty5 said:
Why Nick? What worked today should get more people into the Valley if those marketing techniques are used again. Otherwise those individuals need to explain whyvalleynick66 said:
Realistically we will only see similar if we draw a Prem team in the cup.shirty5 said:
Well done to all involved this afternoon Ray.raytreacy69 said:Some of you just can’t wait to criticise the club
FFS this is the 3rd tier of English footi and a crowd of over 22k Charlton fans
Why not celebrate that fact and the commercial success it was for the club
Oh no - let’s have another popNow let’s look forward to the same marketing campaign which got the crowds in today for the rest of the season
Should be onto a winner even fits a small gain in the average attendance after and including todayBut of course that means winning a couple of games first…🙁
I don’t expect a similar gate for the next 5 home games between now and the end of the year, but Methven and his employees can’t let this opportunity this afternoon go to waste and need to get hold of those first timers this afternoon from Monday morning to get them back once again
My other half got our tickets and she received an email welcoming her as a first time visitor to the valley with advice on transport links etc despite living 2-3 miles away, using her con number she’s had for over 20 years to book, being a lapsed season ticket holder and been going since the Selhurst days.
4000 first timers and 1000 from abroad was out an out bull****.
i definitely wouldn’t dispute the 1k international figure. It’s very big business these days and with Charlton v Disney’s Wrexham the only game in town they could go to, and town as in LONDON being the operative location, then if anything it wouldn’t have surprised me if the number had been bigger than that.2 -
Why is it bull? Millwall get around 3-4,000 overseas visitors every game. We also get a lot (nowhere near their levels). Football weekend trips to London taking in two games are pretty huge these days.ElfsborgAddick said:paulbaconsarnie said:
I have little faith the club have correctly identified the claimed (4000?) first timers.shirty5 said:
I enjoyed this afternoon with seeing a packed Valley , did you Fen from your seat?fenaddick said:
What worked today was capitalising on the Wrexham factor which they did well. You want those people coming back but the fans will never know if it worked or notshirty5 said:
Why Nick? What worked today should get more people into the Valley if those marketing techniques are used again. Otherwise those individuals need to explain whyvalleynick66 said:
Realistically we will only see similar if we draw a Prem team in the cup.shirty5 said:
Well done to all involved this afternoon Ray.raytreacy69 said:Some of you just can’t wait to criticise the club
FFS this is the 3rd tier of English footi and a crowd of over 22k Charlton fans
Why not celebrate that fact and the commercial success it was for the club
Oh no - let’s have another popNow let’s look forward to the same marketing campaign which got the crowds in today for the rest of the season
Should be onto a winner even fits a small gain in the average attendance after and including todayBut of course that means winning a couple of games first…🙁
I don’t expect a similar gate for the next 5 home games between now and the end of the year, but Methven and his employees can’t let this opportunity this afternoon go to waste and need to get hold of those first timers this afternoon from Monday morning to get them back once again
My other half got our tickets and she received an email welcoming her as a first time visitor to the valley with advice on transport links etc despite living 2-3 miles away, using her con number she’s had for over 20 years to book, being a lapsed season ticket holder and been going since the Selhurst days.
4000 first timers and 1000 from abroad was out an out bull****.18 -
really?AFKABartram said:
Why is it bull? Millwall get around 3-4,000 overseas visitors every game. We also get a lot (nowhere near their levels). Football weekend trips to London taking in two games are pretty huge these days.ElfsborgAddick said:paulbaconsarnie said:
I have little faith the club have correctly identified the claimed (4000?) first timers.shirty5 said:
I enjoyed this afternoon with seeing a packed Valley , did you Fen from your seat?fenaddick said:
What worked today was capitalising on the Wrexham factor which they did well. You want those people coming back but the fans will never know if it worked or notshirty5 said:
Why Nick? What worked today should get more people into the Valley if those marketing techniques are used again. Otherwise those individuals need to explain whyvalleynick66 said:
Realistically we will only see similar if we draw a Prem team in the cup.shirty5 said:
Well done to all involved this afternoon Ray.raytreacy69 said:Some of you just can’t wait to criticise the club
FFS this is the 3rd tier of English footi and a crowd of over 22k Charlton fans
Why not celebrate that fact and the commercial success it was for the club
Oh no - let’s have another popNow let’s look forward to the same marketing campaign which got the crowds in today for the rest of the season
Should be onto a winner even fits a small gain in the average attendance after and including todayBut of course that means winning a couple of games first…🙁
I don’t expect a similar gate for the next 5 home games between now and the end of the year, but Methven and his employees can’t let this opportunity this afternoon go to waste and need to get hold of those first timers this afternoon from Monday morning to get them back once again
My other half got our tickets and she received an email welcoming her as a first time visitor to the valley with advice on transport links etc despite living 2-3 miles away, using her con number she’s had for over 20 years to book, being a lapsed season ticket holder and been going since the Selhurst days.
4000 first timers and 1000 from abroad was out an out bull****.5 -
3-4000? That’s probably 1/4 of the gates they’re getting.AFKABartram said:
Why is it bull? Millwall get around 3-4,000 overseas visitors every game. We also get a lot (nowhere near their levels). Football weekend trips to London taking in two games are pretty huge these days.ElfsborgAddick said:paulbaconsarnie said:
I have little faith the club have correctly identified the claimed (4000?) first timers.shirty5 said:
I enjoyed this afternoon with seeing a packed Valley , did you Fen from your seat?fenaddick said:
What worked today was capitalising on the Wrexham factor which they did well. You want those people coming back but the fans will never know if it worked or notshirty5 said:
Why Nick? What worked today should get more people into the Valley if those marketing techniques are used again. Otherwise those individuals need to explain whyvalleynick66 said:
Realistically we will only see similar if we draw a Prem team in the cup.shirty5 said:
Well done to all involved this afternoon Ray.raytreacy69 said:Some of you just can’t wait to criticise the club
FFS this is the 3rd tier of English footi and a crowd of over 22k Charlton fans
Why not celebrate that fact and the commercial success it was for the club
Oh no - let’s have another popNow let’s look forward to the same marketing campaign which got the crowds in today for the rest of the season
Should be onto a winner even fits a small gain in the average attendance after and including todayBut of course that means winning a couple of games first…🙁
I don’t expect a similar gate for the next 5 home games between now and the end of the year, but Methven and his employees can’t let this opportunity this afternoon go to waste and need to get hold of those first timers this afternoon from Monday morning to get them back once again
My other half got our tickets and she received an email welcoming her as a first time visitor to the valley with advice on transport links etc despite living 2-3 miles away, using her con number she’s had for over 20 years to book, being a lapsed season ticket holder and been going since the Selhurst days.
4000 first timers and 1000 from abroad was out an out bull****.3
