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MATCH THREAD (+post p20) : Charlton Athletic V Bromley : BSM Trophy : Tues 12 November 2024 KO 19:00
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couldn't even be bothered to identify the players properly.ken_shabby said:
That rubbish was the Sky stream commentary? Some of it was actually painful.killerandflash said:Weird how the Charlton stream had the general EFL/Sky commentary all game.1 -
he also seems to offer more movement off the ball than the has beens.Scoham said:
I’d like to see him making the squad for the next few league games. He’d add pace and the ability to run with the ball, something we lack across the team in most positions.Davo55 said:Didn't watch the game but from the comments on here and from the highlights it might be that Kai Enslin offers more of a creative attacking midfield threat than the other options we've tried. At least he seems to be able to beat a player without simply relying on pace.
It’ll be interesting to see where Jones sees him playing. He’s mainly played LWB for the u21s, but been a RW in the past along with filling in at CB and CM. Could make a case for most of those positions as he has a bit of everything to his game without being outstanding in one or two areas.1 -
Not difficult to offer more of a creative attacking midfield threat than the has beens.Davo55 said:Didn't watch the game but from the comments on here and from the highlights it might be that Kai Enslin offers more of a creative attacking midfield threat than the other options we've tried. At least he seems to be able to beat a player without simply relying on pace.1 -
Problem is he is a leftie. Although Edwards barely gets over the halfway line, Small has more talent. Perhaps in a cup match he might play central, but can't see him improving our under-performing side otherwise.0
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Just watched the Kai Enslin interview on the train home, so we didn't even mean to play him, we only played him because Edun dropped out through injury. Brilliant, one of our bright sparks of the evening was a happy accident, not a deliberate effort to bring an exciting young player into the fold. Doesn't take the shine off of his performance, definitely takes any kind of shine away from management I'd say.2
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Kai Enslin is 19. He played very well on his debut and looked assured. A number of players have started their first team careers under 19 years old and survived well. Perhaps he is worth a few (sub) opportunities at first team level provided he is closely monitored? He was exciting to watch and shows a lot of maturity.4
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Not watched it yet, the frustrating thing with that is we know players like Edun aren’t good enough. Someone like Enslin might be, should improve with games and could surprise us.YannTheMann said:Just watched the Kai Enslin interview on the train home, so we didn't even mean to play him, we only played him because Edun dropped out through injury. Brilliant, one of our bright sparks of the evening was a happy accident, not a deliberate effort to bring an exciting young player into the fold. Doesn't take the shine off of his performance, definitely takes any kind of shine away from management I'd say.3 -
Edun has very rarely played midfield, which I think is his best position.1
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If the ball hadn't gone out, it was one of those situations where 100% of the ball hadn't crossed the line, and instead part of it was still in play according to the lino.fenaddick said:For anyone who hasn’t seen the red card “offence”
https://x.com/crimp_it/status/1856427699285172540?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw
Ridiculous to give a red for that, which surely should be reserved for serious and deliberate encroachment, when Jones himself was still partially in his technical area and only his foot was over the touchline.0 - Sponsored links:
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Whether the ball was marginally in or out, it was heading for a throw in. NJ just stopped the ball so as to stop wasted time for the throw to be taken. Everyone in the crowd and the players understood it and no one thought to object. The officials had their moment though.
As an observation, I felt the ref held up the game on several occasions by being very slow restarting the game at corners, free kicks and throw ins. He walked so slowly to get into position causing further unnecessary delays before blowing his whistle. I just felt he thought it was all about him on too many occasions. A bit arrogant.
Anyway, got that off my chest.6 -
Well he was due to be on the bench by the sounds of things, so we were still bringing him into the fold, it's just that he wouldn't have started.YannTheMann said:Just watched the Kai Enslin interview on the train home, so we didn't even mean to play him, we only played him because Edun dropped out through injury. Brilliant, one of our bright sparks of the evening was a happy accident, not a deliberate effort to bring an exciting young player into the fold. Doesn't take the shine off of his performance, definitely takes any kind of shine away from management I'd say.
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Edun was suspended not injuredaliwibble said:
Well he was due to be on the bench by the sounds of things, so we were still bringing him into the fold, it's just that he wouldn't have started.YannTheMann said:Just watched the Kai Enslin interview on the train home, so we didn't even mean to play him, we only played him because Edun dropped out through injury. Brilliant, one of our bright sparks of the evening was a happy accident, not a deliberate effort to bring an exciting young player into the fold. Doesn't take the shine off of his performance, definitely takes any kind of shine away from management I'd say.1 -
It was Taylor who dropped out late on.YannTheMann said:Just watched the Kai Enslin interview on the train home, so we didn't even mean to play him, we only played him because Edun dropped out through injury. Brilliant, one of our bright sparks of the evening was a happy accident, not a deliberate effort to bring an exciting young player into the fold. Doesn't take the shine off of his performance, definitely takes any kind of shine away from management I'd say.2 -
Taylor started?LargeAddick said:
It was Taylor who dropped out late on.YannTheMann said:Just watched the Kai Enslin interview on the train home, so we didn't even mean to play him, we only played him because Edun dropped out through injury. Brilliant, one of our bright sparks of the evening was a happy accident, not a deliberate effort to bring an exciting young player into the fold. Doesn't take the shine off of his performance, definitely takes any kind of shine away from management I'd say.3 -
I thought he'd said "Taylor" but it was "Tayo" who dropped out.LargeAddick said:
It was Taylor who dropped out late on.YannTheMann said:Just watched the Kai Enslin interview on the train home, so we didn't even mean to play him, we only played him because Edun dropped out through injury. Brilliant, one of our bright sparks of the evening was a happy accident, not a deliberate effort to bring an exciting young player into the fold. Doesn't take the shine off of his performance, definitely takes any kind of shine away from management I'd say.3 -
Yeah I think the coaching staff didn’t know Edun was suspended2
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He did. His foot was over the white line.fenaddick said:
That’s what it was for but I would be surprised if that’s actually what happenedTodds_right_hook said:So am I correct in saying that jones got sent off for kicking the ball when it was still on the pitch?
I haven’t seen the replay, did he!0 -
He was standing outside the pitch but the ball came towards him off the ground and he raised his right leg to bring it down. His foot was inside the pitch when he impacted the ball.soapboxsam said:My eyes must be playing me up as well as the poster on here who said he didn't step on to the pitch from his viewpoint 7 rows back.
Can everyone see Nathan step on to the pitch from the video posted? It looks to me he's a step outside his managers area but not over the touchline.
No VAR lines to confirm obviously 🙄
Watching on Sky, some posters didn't realize that Miles Leaburn's goal took a deflection when you saw the posts on CL.
Edit: Just heard Fleming do the after match interview so all about encroachment.0 -
All the people going on about Nathan Jones getting a red card for kicking the ball while it was in play l. Show how terrible was our first teams performance against Bromley.
No reflection on what says about the first team squad and it lack of depth of quality once again.0 - Sponsored links:
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Didn't Napoleon III actually form palarse back in the 1820s making them the oldest club in the world ?Off_it said:
Someone's just gone and Googled "famous Bromley residents"!AFKABartram said:David Bowie, Enid Blyton, Napoleon III, Rob Beckett, your boys took one hell of an average beating
Napoleon III actually lived in Chislehurst - in the building that's now the golf club (Camden Place). And his son - the Prince Imperial - was killed in the Zulu war. There's a memorial to him on Prince Imperial Road on the common.
I think they were Palace.3 -
He's admitted on a site that can't be mentioned that he posts on here to wind people up.JamesSeed said:
His whole schtick is to give the appearance of being in the know, to sound like an ‘insider’.Bailey said:
I've got to say Large, there is a little part of me that thinks Ronnie does out of sheer devilment. The post tonight was almost timed to contradict previous posts, if you say its shit Ronnie will say it ain't. I don't think that post suggests that he's in the know, more that he believes that the players, although not instructed to ease up, but more they knew there was no sense in busting a gut, its a players sense more than anything. Back to Ronnie though, if, as I believe, Ronnie is playing you, why bite, surely that's giving him satisfaction and encouragement to take the contrary stand once again.LargeAddick said:
He doesn’t present it as such. He wants us to think he’s in the know hence ‘first teamers were TOLD not to get injured’. If it were his opinion it would be ‘I’d like to think the first teamers were told not to get injured’.Bailey said:Croydon said:
Do you not get bored of posting such bollocks? Because it is so fucking boring having to read itRonnieMoore said:
First teamers were told not to get injured .. clear we played at 60% tonightChunes said:If they fine Berry a week's wages for that performance, I don't think he could argue
Don't read it then, it's his opinion nothing else.Croydon said:
Do you not get bored of posting such bollocks? Because it is so fucking boring having to read itRonnieMoore said:
First teamers were told not to get injured .. clear we played at 60% tonightChunes said:If they fine Berry a week's wages for that performance, I don't think he could argue2 -
charltonbob said:
Didn't Napoleon III actually form palarse back in the 1820s making them the oldest club in the world ?Off_it said:
Someone's just gone and Googled "famous Bromley residents"!AFKABartram said:David Bowie, Enid Blyton, Napoleon III, Rob Beckett, your boys took one hell of an average beating
Napoleon III actually lived in Chislehurst - in the building that's now the golf club (Camden Place). And his son - the Prince Imperial - was killed in the Zulu war. There's a memorial to him on Prince Imperial Road on the common.
I think they were Palace.
No, it was King Arthur in AD600.0 -
Speaks very well, just hope he wasn't late for school the next day. He looks 12 years oldScoham said:
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Not sure how you can say that with such certainty when having watched the video a few times it's not clear at all whether he was inside the pitch at all. If anything I thought it looked more like he was just off the pitch.Crusty54 said:
He was standing outside the pitch but the ball came towards him off the ground and he raised his right leg to bring it down. His foot was inside the pitch when he impacted the ball.soapboxsam said:My eyes must be playing me up as well as the poster on here who said he didn't step on to the pitch from his viewpoint 7 rows back.
Can everyone see Nathan step on to the pitch from the video posted? It looks to me he's a step outside his managers area but not over the touchline.
No VAR lines to confirm obviously 🙄
Watching on Sky, some posters didn't realize that Miles Leaburn's goal took a deflection when you saw the posts on CL.
Edit: Just heard Fleming do the after match interview so all about encroachment.
It's all very odd, but I guess it doesn't really matter, in the great scheme of things.0 -
He probably can say it with certainty as he like me was there and watched itJamesSeed said:
Not sure how you can say that with such certainty when having watched the video a few times it's not clear at all whether he was inside the pitch at all. If anything I thought it looked more like he was just off the pitch.Crusty54 said:
He was standing outside the pitch but the ball came towards him off the ground and he raised his right leg to bring it down. His foot was inside the pitch when he impacted the ball.soapboxsam said:My eyes must be playing me up as well as the poster on here who said he didn't step on to the pitch from his viewpoint 7 rows back.
Can everyone see Nathan step on to the pitch from the video posted? It looks to me he's a step outside his managers area but not over the touchline.
No VAR lines to confirm obviously 🙄
Watching on Sky, some posters didn't realize that Miles Leaburn's goal took a deflection when you saw the posts on CL.
Edit: Just heard Fleming do the after match interview so all about encroachment.
It's all very odd, but I guess it doesn't really matter, in the great scheme of things.2 -
Where were you sitting?JohnnyH2 said:
He probably can say it with certainty as he like me was there and watched itJamesSeed said:
Not sure how you can say that with such certainty when having watched the video a few times it's not clear at all whether he was inside the pitch at all. If anything I thought it looked more like he was just off the pitch.Crusty54 said:
He was standing outside the pitch but the ball came towards him off the ground and he raised his right leg to bring it down. His foot was inside the pitch when he impacted the ball.soapboxsam said:My eyes must be playing me up as well as the poster on here who said he didn't step on to the pitch from his viewpoint 7 rows back.
Can everyone see Nathan step on to the pitch from the video posted? It looks to me he's a step outside his managers area but not over the touchline.
No VAR lines to confirm obviously 🙄
Watching on Sky, some posters didn't realize that Miles Leaburn's goal took a deflection when you saw the posts on CL.
Edit: Just heard Fleming do the after match interview so all about encroachment.
It's all very odd, but I guess it doesn't really matter, in the great scheme of things.0 -
Unless you were sitting side on to the touchline, and concentrating entirely on when and where Jones kicked the ball I doubt you had a perfect view of the incident, and even then the naked eye can be misleading.JohnnyH2 said:
He probably can say it with certainty as he like me was there and watched itJamesSeed said:
Not sure how you can say that with such certainty when having watched the video a few times it's not clear at all whether he was inside the pitch at all. If anything I thought it looked more like he was just off the pitch.Crusty54 said:
He was standing outside the pitch but the ball came towards him off the ground and he raised his right leg to bring it down. His foot was inside the pitch when he impacted the ball.soapboxsam said:My eyes must be playing me up as well as the poster on here who said he didn't step on to the pitch from his viewpoint 7 rows back.
Can everyone see Nathan step on to the pitch from the video posted? It looks to me he's a step outside his managers area but not over the touchline.
No VAR lines to confirm obviously 🙄
Watching on Sky, some posters didn't realize that Miles Leaburn's goal took a deflection when you saw the posts on CL.
Edit: Just heard Fleming do the after match interview so all about encroachment.
It's all very odd, but I guess it doesn't really matter, in the great scheme of things.
I suspect it's like the incident in the last World Cup where the Japan player crossed the ball when it looked like it had gone out of play, when Hawkeye showed the ball was 2% in.
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I was 4 rows back, centre circlekillerandflash said:
Unless you were sitting side on to the touchline, and concentrating entirely on when and where Jones kicked the ball I doubt you had a perfect view of the incident, and even then the naked eye can be misleading.JohnnyH2 said:
He probably can say it with certainty as he like me was there and watched itJamesSeed said:
Not sure how you can say that with such certainty when having watched the video a few times it's not clear at all whether he was inside the pitch at all. If anything I thought it looked more like he was just off the pitch.Crusty54 said:
He was standing outside the pitch but the ball came towards him off the ground and he raised his right leg to bring it down. His foot was inside the pitch when he impacted the ball.soapboxsam said:My eyes must be playing me up as well as the poster on here who said he didn't step on to the pitch from his viewpoint 7 rows back.
Can everyone see Nathan step on to the pitch from the video posted? It looks to me he's a step outside his managers area but not over the touchline.
No VAR lines to confirm obviously 🙄
Watching on Sky, some posters didn't realize that Miles Leaburn's goal took a deflection when you saw the posts on CL.
Edit: Just heard Fleming do the after match interview so all about encroachment.
It's all very odd, but I guess it doesn't really matter, in the great scheme of things.
I suspect it's like the incident in the last World Cup where the Japan player crossed the ball when it looked like it had gone out of play, when Hawkeye showed the ball was 2% in.1 -
4 rows back centre circle, saw enough, and certainly more than the stream showsOff_it said:
Where were you sitting?JohnnyH2 said:
He probably can say it with certainty as he like me was there and watched itJamesSeed said:
Not sure how you can say that with such certainty when having watched the video a few times it's not clear at all whether he was inside the pitch at all. If anything I thought it looked more like he was just off the pitch.Crusty54 said:
He was standing outside the pitch but the ball came towards him off the ground and he raised his right leg to bring it down. His foot was inside the pitch when he impacted the ball.soapboxsam said:My eyes must be playing me up as well as the poster on here who said he didn't step on to the pitch from his viewpoint 7 rows back.
Can everyone see Nathan step on to the pitch from the video posted? It looks to me he's a step outside his managers area but not over the touchline.
No VAR lines to confirm obviously 🙄
Watching on Sky, some posters didn't realize that Miles Leaburn's goal took a deflection when you saw the posts on CL.
Edit: Just heard Fleming do the after match interview so all about encroachment.
It's all very odd, but I guess it doesn't really matter, in the great scheme of things.1
