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ShootersHillGuru said:Dansk_Red said:Gordon Brown had everybody rushing to by diesel vehicles as they were greener than petrol ones although they were more polluting. The large number of diesels sold on his advice was the precusser to today's problems.3
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Vauxhall is set to close its car factory after 120 years in a move the company is blaming on the Government’s Net Zero EV sales targets.
Stellantis, which also controls the Fiat, Peugeot and Citroen brands, has blamed Government EV sales targets for the decision to shutter the factory, which first opened in 1905 and has been making vans for almost a century.
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Redskin said:Vauxhall is set to close its car factory after 120 years in a move the company is blaming on the Government’s Net Zero EV sales targets.
Stellantis, which also controls the Fiat, Peugeot and Citroen brands, has blamed Government EV sales targets for the decision to shutter the factory, which first opened in 1905 and has been making vans for almost a century.2 -
ShootersHillGuru said:Redskin said:Vauxhall is set to close its car factory after 120 years in a move the company is blaming on the Government’s Net Zero EV sales targets.
Stellantis, which also controls the Fiat, Peugeot and Citroen brands, has blamed Government EV sales targets for the decision to shutter the factory, which first opened in 1905 and has been making vans for almost a century.
And we need fossil fuels and materials to make the EVs and their batteries, so yeah long way to go0 -
ShootersHillGuru said:Redskin said:Vauxhall is set to close its car factory after 120 years in a move the company is blaming on the Government’s Net Zero EV sales targets.
Stellantis, which also controls the Fiat, Peugeot and Citroen brands, has blamed Government EV sales targets for the decision to shutter the factory, which first opened in 1905 and has been making vans for almost a century.0 -
O-Randy-Hunt said:Was speaking to a family from Oslo yesterday and he told me 90% of the country drive an ev. He got one before it got to 60% of the country driving one and the incentives ranged from free charging when he first got it to driving in bus lanes, which were (as expected) taken away once around 60% of the country owned an ev.0
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Carter said:ShootersHillGuru said:Redskin said:Vauxhall is set to close its car factory after 120 years in a move the company is blaming on the Government’s Net Zero EV sales targets.
Stellantis, which also controls the Fiat, Peugeot and Citroen brands, has blamed Government EV sales targets for the decision to shutter the factory, which first opened in 1905 and has been making vans for almost a century.
And we need fossil fuels and materials to make the EVs and their batteries, so yeah long way to go
Recycled EV batteries, which is where more and more go once they are scrapped, are on houses now being used as storage, or being filled up cheaply overnight and then used during the day.
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ShootersHillGuru said:Redskin said:Vauxhall is set to close its car factory after 120 years in a move the company is blaming on the Government’s Net Zero EV sales targets.
Stellantis, which also controls the Fiat, Peugeot and Citroen brands, has blamed Government EV sales targets for the decision to shutter the factory, which first opened in 1905 and has been making vans for almost a century.3 -
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https://youtu.be/r1BBNJDnkTQ?si=Y2tw-Ec8qxuRxNMJ
The truth about EV battery life & charging best practice by Petrol Ped1 - Sponsored links:
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Hex said:ShootersHillGuru said:Redskin said:Vauxhall is set to close its car factory after 120 years in a move the company is blaming on the Government’s Net Zero EV sales targets.
Stellantis, which also controls the Fiat, Peugeot and Citroen brands, has blamed Government EV sales targets for the decision to shutter the factory, which first opened in 1905 and has been making vans for almost a century.
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guinnessaddick said:
https://youtu.be/r1BBNJDnkTQ?si=Y2tw-Ec8qxuRxNMJ
The truth about EV battery life & charging best practice by Petrol Ped
You will need a "chunk of change" to buy a replacement battery. No costs mentioned.
No lifespan stated.
Only 8 year manufacturers warranty....
Anecdotal recycling/second hand battery waffle.
More propaganda from the electric zealots. In this case a bloke who installs electric motors in classic cars. Which is brilliant and something I'm all in favour of. I will be doing this early in the spring. Far preferable than the anodyne boxes being produced today.
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ShootersHillGuru said:Redskin said:Vauxhall is set to close its car factory after 120 years in a move the company is blaming on the Government’s Net Zero EV sales targets.
Stellantis, which also controls the Fiat, Peugeot and Citroen brands, has blamed Government EV sales targets for the decision to shutter the factory, which first opened in 1905 and has been making vans for almost a century.
The Ford F150 continues to be the best selling vehicle in both countries, and both countries have cheap enough energy that nobody thinks twice about turning on the heating in winter.
The UK's decision to commit industrial suicide is weird2 -
cafcnick1992 said:ShootersHillGuru said:Redskin said:Vauxhall is set to close its car factory after 120 years in a move the company is blaming on the Government’s Net Zero EV sales targets.
Stellantis, which also controls the Fiat, Peugeot and Citroen brands, has blamed Government EV sales targets for the decision to shutter the factory, which first opened in 1905 and has been making vans for almost a century.
The Ford F150 continues to be the best selling vehicle in both countries, and both countries have cheap enough energy that nobody thinks twice about turning on the heating in winter.
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superclive98 said:My only experience of an EV was a courtesy/hire car from Gatwick. Enterprise assured me that it had ample charge to get me the 83 miles back to Broadstairs.
When we got in the car it showed a range of just under 200 miles. By the time we got home it was down to about 20. It was the most stressful drive that I have ever had. Who wants to drive like that?1 -
PragueAddick said:superclive98 said:My only experience of an EV was a courtesy/hire car from Gatwick. Enterprise assured me that it had ample charge to get me the 83 miles back to Broadstairs.
When we got in the car it showed a range of just under 200 miles. By the time we got home it was down to about 20. It was the most stressful drive that I have ever had. Who wants to drive like that?0 -
PragueAddick said:superclive98 said:My only experience of an EV was a courtesy/hire car from Gatwick. Enterprise assured me that it had ample charge to get me the 83 miles back to Broadstairs.
When we got in the car it showed a range of just under 200 miles. By the time we got home it was down to about 20. It was the most stressful drive that I have ever had. Who wants to drive like that?The manufacturers use this:To work out the WLTP, they will find the range the car travels (from 100% to 0%) when driving at an average speed of 46.5 km/h (28.8 mph) in summer temperatures.No surprise then that real world ranges are always fewer, in some cases much fewer than the official.My old EV had a range when fully charged of 240 in summer and 200 in winter, and that was realistic in normal driving although as the battery charge reduced the miles seemed to fall off much quicker - certainly not a linear decline.0 -
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/29/tesla-owners-elon-muskSeems many Tesla owners are now embarrassed to be driving them and some are even placing apologetic stickers on their vehicles.1
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Chaz Hill said:https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/29/tesla-owners-elon-muskSeems many Tesla owners are now embarrassed to be driving them and some are even placing apologetic stickers on their vehicles.0
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stop_shouting said:Chaz Hill said:https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/29/tesla-owners-elon-muskSeems many Tesla owners are now embarrassed to be driving them and some are even placing apologetic stickers on their vehicles.
Vast majority are company cars.
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After much deliberation and taking note of the comments on this thread I’ve decided that when I change my car in the spring I’m going to go for a petrol / hybrid. I’d expect it to be the last ICE car I purchase so will watch with great interest what happens over the next four years.1
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ShootersHillGuru said:After much deliberation and taking note of the comments on this thread I’ve decided that when I change my car in the spring I’m going to go for a petrol / hybrid. I’d expect it to be the last ICE car I purchase so will watch with great interest what happens over the next four years.1
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The notion of swapping the batteries seems to be a good idea.
I would think that most people can’t charge an electric vehicle at home due to not having a ‘drive’.0 -
seth plum said:The notion of swapping the batteries seems to be a good idea.
I would think that most people can’t charge an electric vehicle at home due to not having a ‘drive’.You might have heard that EVs tend to weigh more than combustion engine cars – this is true and is largely due to their battery. On average, EV batteries weigh around 454 kg (1,000 pounds), with bigger models weighing as much as 900 kg (2,000 pounds) and some even up to 1,800 kg (4,000 pounds).24 May 2023
For info : 454 kg is 71 stones0 -
ShootersHillGuru said:After much deliberation and taking note of the comments on this thread I’ve decided that when I change my car in the spring I’m going to go for a petrol / hybrid. I’d expect it to be the last ICE car I purchase so will watch with great interest what happens over the next four years.2
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Chizz said:ShootersHillGuru said:After much deliberation and taking note of the comments on this thread I’ve decided that when I change my car in the spring I’m going to go for a petrol / hybrid. I’d expect it to be the last ICE car I purchase so will watch with great interest what happens over the next four years.I agree - a 5.0l V8 supercharged petrol engine is the way to go.*I'll get me coat.
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On YouTube you can see battery changing ‘garages’ in Norway. Takes about five minutes apparently.0